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Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:01 pm

I know the listening post in question. It is British, but there is also US, Australian, Canadian and NZ involvement. And for all we know, the Israelis are also probably involved.

I know they mean Cyprus no harm as long as we stay out of their way and don't hinder them.

Yes, I believe Turkey is a country of interest, even more so than Syria or Iran.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:25 pm

So,the enemy of my enemy is my friend,heh?????

There is another saying which comes to mind...Those who lie down with dogs get up with flees....or something to that effect... :)
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:48 pm

No!

Israel is not an enemy to Cyprus. They do not occupy Cyprus.

Turkey is an enemy to Cyprus as they do occupy the island.

You do the math. It is simple logic really!

Even a dimwit can work it out. Even you shouldn't have too much trouble Bir!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:11 pm

Paphitis wrote:No!

Israel is not an enemy to Cyprus. They do not occupy Cyprus.

Turkey is an enemy to Cyprus as they do occupy the island.

You do the math. It is simple logic really!

Even a dimwit can work it out. Even you shouldn't have too much trouble Bir!


Yep,no trouble at all... :wink:
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Postby IMPOSTALIEDUS » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:58 pm

Irans nuclear program has nothing to do with america or israel, under the non proliferation treaty,any state can ,and has the right to ,enrich uraneum to be used as fuel for civil nuclear power ,such states have to be under inspection of the iasa , and iran is already being inspected,Only nations with a nuclear weapon at the time of the treaty are allowed to enrich to high grade needed for a weapon . Iran are only doing what is allowed under the treaty,and want to contol the the whole process of the low grade stuff themselves, and have agreed to turkey processing 1200 kls of low grade ,and getting back in return 20 kls of a grade suitable for civil power,,,, but this has really nothing to do with Iran producing a weapon ,but america and the uk and israel losing a mega bucks contract now and in the future for the processing of the low grade stuff , some of you on this forum are getting a little carried away that this is in some way going to help cyprus
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:13 pm

IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:Irans nuclear program has nothing to do with america or israel, under the non proliferation treaty,any state can ,and has the right to ,enrich uraneum to be used as fuel for civil nuclear power ,such states have to be under inspection of the iasa , and iran is already being inspected,Only nations with a nuclear weapon at the time of the treaty are allowed to enrich to high grade needed for a weapon . Iran are only doing what is allowed under the treaty,and want to contol the the whole process of the low grade stuff themselves, and have agreed to turkey processing 1200 kls of low grade ,and getting back in return 20 kls of a grade suitable for civil power,,,, but this has really nothing to do with Iran producing a weapon ,but america and the uk and israel losing a mega bucks contract now and in the future for the processing of the low grade stuff , some of you on this forum are getting a little carried away that this is in some way going to help cyprus


But don't you know that the world rotates about Cyprus and everything that Cyprus does and/or says has an impact on the world and vice-versa?
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:55 pm

IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:Irans nuclear program has nothing to do with america or israel, under the non proliferation treaty,any state can ,and has the right to ,enrich uraneum to be used as fuel for civil nuclear power ,such states have to be under inspection of the iasa , and iran is already being inspected,Only nations with a nuclear weapon at the time of the treaty are allowed to enrich to high grade needed for a weapon . Iran are only doing what is allowed under the treaty,and want to contol the the whole process of the low grade stuff themselves, and have agreed to turkey processing 1200 kls of low grade ,and getting back in return 20 kls of a grade suitable for civil power,,,, but this has really nothing to do with Iran producing a weapon ,but america and the uk and israel losing a mega bucks contract now and in the future for the processing of the low grade stuff , some of you on this forum are getting a little carried away that this is in some way going to help cyprus


It's all about regional alliances!

If Cyprus is not dogmatic towards Israel and even forms good diplomatic and military ties, then all of a sudden Cyprus becomes a nation of immense importance to them, because Cyprus then becomes not only a nation that is not hostile to Israel, but an enormously important ally.

Then there will be joint military exercises, arms deals, shared intelligence, investment and trade. The key is to do all of the above without upsetting other nations other than Turkey.

Then there is AIPAC, and Israel has enough influence to really hurt Turkey.

Just keep looking towards Iran! That is all I dream about! :lol:
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:Irans nuclear program has nothing to do with america or israel, under the non proliferation treaty,any state can ,and has the right to ,enrich uraneum to be used as fuel for civil nuclear power ,such states have to be under inspection of the iasa , and iran is already being inspected,Only nations with a nuclear weapon at the time of the treaty are allowed to enrich to high grade needed for a weapon . Iran are only doing what is allowed under the treaty,and want to contol the the whole process of the low grade stuff themselves, and have agreed to turkey processing 1200 kls of low grade ,and getting back in return 20 kls of a grade suitable for civil power,,,, but this has really nothing to do with Iran producing a weapon ,but america and the uk and israel losing a mega bucks contract now and in the future for the processing of the low grade stuff , some of you on this forum are getting a little carried away that this is in some way going to help cyprus


It's all about regional alliances!

If Cyprus is not dogmatic towards Israel and even forms good diplomatic and military ties, then all of a sudden Cyprus becomes a nation of immense importance to them, because Cyprus then becomes not only a nation that is not hostile to Israel, but an enormously important ally.

Then there will be joint military exercises, arms deals, shared intelligence, investment and trade. The key is to do all of the above without upsetting other nations other than Turkey.

Then there is AIPAC, and Israel has enough influence to really hurt Turkey.

Just keep looking towards Iran! That is all I dream about! :lol:



"...an enormously important ally."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Being an ally(sic) means walking the walk, not just talking the talk. :roll:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:21 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:Irans nuclear program has nothing to do with america or israel, under the non proliferation treaty,any state can ,and has the right to ,enrich uraneum to be used as fuel for civil nuclear power ,such states have to be under inspection of the iasa , and iran is already being inspected,Only nations with a nuclear weapon at the time of the treaty are allowed to enrich to high grade needed for a weapon . Iran are only doing what is allowed under the treaty,and want to contol the the whole process of the low grade stuff themselves, and have agreed to turkey processing 1200 kls of low grade ,and getting back in return 20 kls of a grade suitable for civil power,,,, but this has really nothing to do with Iran producing a weapon ,but america and the uk and israel losing a mega bucks contract now and in the future for the processing of the low grade stuff , some of you on this forum are getting a little carried away that this is in some way going to help cyprus


It's all about regional alliances!

If Cyprus is not dogmatic towards Israel and even forms good diplomatic and military ties, then all of a sudden Cyprus becomes a nation of immense importance to them, because Cyprus then becomes not only a nation that is not hostile to Israel, but an enormously important ally.

Then there will be joint military exercises, arms deals, shared intelligence, investment and trade. The key is to do all of the above without upsetting other nations other than Turkey.

Then there is AIPAC, and Israel has enough influence to really hurt Turkey.

Just keep looking towards Iran! That is all I dream about! :lol:



"...an enormously important ally."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Being an ally(sic) means walking the walk, not just talking the talk. :roll:


You must excuse Paphidis,VW....He is a Cypriot after all...We all think Cyprus is the center of the universe,God's gift to humanity,nay to all the animal,mineral,and vegetable kingdoms.... :wink: :)
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:33 am

Paphitis wrote:
IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:Irans nuclear program has nothing to do with america or israel, under the non proliferation treaty,any state can ,and has the right to ,enrich uraneum to be used as fuel for civil nuclear power ,such states have to be under inspection of the iasa , and iran is already being inspected,Only nations with a nuclear weapon at the time of the treaty are allowed to enrich to high grade needed for a weapon . Iran are only doing what is allowed under the treaty,and want to contol the the whole process of the low grade stuff themselves, and have agreed to turkey processing 1200 kls of low grade ,and getting back in return 20 kls of a grade suitable for civil power,,,, but this has really nothing to do with Iran producing a weapon ,but america and the uk and israel losing a mega bucks contract now and in the future for the processing of the low grade stuff , some of you on this forum are getting a little carried away that this is in some way going to help cyprus


It's all about regional alliances!

If Cyprus is not dogmatic towards Israel and even forms good diplomatic and military ties, then all of a sudden Cyprus becomes a nation of immense importance to them, because Cyprus then becomes not only a nation that is not hostile to Israel, but an enormously important ally.

Then there will be joint military exercises, arms deals, shared intelligence, investment and trade. The key is to do all of the above without upsetting other nations other than Turkey.

Then there is AIPAC, and Israel has enough influence to really hurt Turkey.

Just keep looking towards Iran! That is all I dream about! :lol:


look to Iran?, hurt Turkey?, look toward Pakistan (and Afghanistan) when you count the numbers that you expect Israel to "hurt".
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