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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Nikitas » Sun May 16, 2010 9:36 pm

YFred, my views on patriotism underwent a radical review after visiting countries like Austria and Switzerland, where love for ones country is given practical and tangible features. You do not see any sign of neglect for the land, and at first you think that they are probably pathologically clean. Then you realise that the place is clean and cared for because these dull and seemingly passionless people actually love their country and take damn good care of it.

Our patriots of course are different, they have more important arguments to deal with than keeping the place clean and productive.
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Postby Acikgoz » Sun May 16, 2010 9:36 pm

That's all you need - live televised - even in secret they cannot make progresss, what chance when playing to the crowd.

Crowd is fickle - look at Nick Clegg- from nowhere he rose to the most popular UK politician since Churchill off the back of 1 TV appearance.

I would love to know about the progress though - reason for even loyal Talatists to begin doubting him.
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Postby Gasman » Sun May 16, 2010 9:41 pm

YFred, my views on patriotism underwent a radical review after visiting countries like Austria and Switzerland, where love for ones country is given practical and tangible features. You do not see any sign of neglect for the land, and at first you think that they are probably pathologically clean. Then you realise that the place is clean and cared for because these dull and seemingly passionless people actually love their country and take damn good care of it.

Our patriots of course are different, they have more important arguments to deal with than keeping the place clean and productive.


Hear hear to that.

You visit NZ and cannot be oblivious to the fact that they LOVE their country with a PASSION.,

I just don't understand why so many 'Cypriots' seem to want to be a pimple on Greece's bum instead of being CYPRIOT and PROUD of it and making their own country great instead of seeming to almost treat it with contempt?
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Postby Nikitas » Sun May 16, 2010 9:55 pm

Gasman,

My take on your question, and it is a personal view formed from experiences probably not shared by othrs. People treat a place with contempt when they are still not sure it is really theirs. You will see this illustrated even in poor places where people are confident of their common ownership- they keep the place pristine even without municipal authorities etc. A state of affairs that contrasts sharply with inner cities where almost everyone is a transient.
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Postby Gasman » Sun May 16, 2010 10:26 pm

My take on your question, and it is a personal view formed from experiences probably not shared by othrs. People treat a place with contempt when they are still not sure it is really theirs. You will see this illustrated even in poor places where people are confident of their common ownership- they keep the place pristine even without municipal authorities etc. A state of affairs that contrasts sharply with inner cities where almost everyone is a transient.


Interesting, in the light of the fact that the inhabitants of the North of Cyprus take no better care or no more pride in the place than they do in the South. The roads are littered, there is fly tipping everywhere.

I've wondered about it often on both sides. I came to the conclusion that the 'sight of it' just doesn't bother the locals as much as it bothers those who come from where it would not be tolerated? That they are 'used to' just chucking their rubbish down wherever they happen to be at the time.

In the same way that it doesn't seem to bother Cypriots that they cannot flush shitty toilet paper down the loo because they have never been able to? They are used, all their lives, to seeing bins full of soiled loo paper. And they laugh at those who are horrified at it as if, in some way, they are 'wimps'? They NEVER answer the question as to why it is not a priority in Cyprus to address the problem.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon May 17, 2010 2:04 am

Partly it is cultural as well...Cypriots are not used to taking individual responsibility...They are used to someone else doing things for them...A bit like children really,who expect their parents to pick up after them...They expect too much (or too little?) from their malfunctioning governments and municipalities...

Also the environmental protection notion is not as well developped as in the West...Here in Australia we have "Clean up Australia" day. One day of the year people in their hundreds of thousands get out into public places and clean up whatever rubbish they can find...rubbish mostly deposited by "ethnic" Australians I might add...
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