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Postby Bananiot » Fri May 14, 2010 3:29 pm

DT, I take it you agree with the rest of the article.

You have focused on the following:

αυξήθηκαν οι μαξιμαλιστές του ελληνοκυπριακού περίγυρου με δηλώσεις τους που υπέσκαπταν τη λύση, οι οποίοι συνέβαλαν στην αύξηση του αντίστοιχου τουρκικού μαξιμαλισμού που έφερε τον Έρογλου στην εξουσία. Και όλα έγιναν ξαφνικά πιο απαισιόδοξα.


Translation

The increasing number of maximalists on the GC side have been making statements that were undermining solution. This has caused a consequent increase in the number of maximalists on the TC side that has brought Eroglu to power. Suddenly, everything has become more pessimistic (says the author of the article, who is a fervent supporter of solution)

Elsewhere, the author writes:

Έχω χάσει τελευταία τον ύπνο μου με τις πολιτικές μας εξελίξεις. Άλλοι τον έχασαν με την οικονομική κρίση που μας πολιορκεί, αυτή όμως θα περάσει, αργά ή γρήγορα, με βάση τη θεωρία των οικονομικών κύκλων. Τι θα γίνει όμως με το μέλλον του νησιού μας; Πορευόμαστε ακάθεκτοι τον τελευταίο μισό αιώνα από το κακό στο χειρότερο και ο τόπος μας και οι άνθρωποί του χάνονται.


Translation

Recently, I have lost my sleep with the political developments. Others have lost their sleep over the economic crisis but this will pass, one way or another, as a result of economic cycles. However, what will happen with the future of our island? Over the last have century we move from bad to worse and our place with its people is lost.

He also adds

Αφού δεν είδαμε τι γινόταν στην πατρίδα μας για πολλές δεκαετίες, αφού δεν είδαμε τη συρρίκνωση του πληθυσμού της τουρκοκυπριακής κοινότητας που προέκυψε από τη δική μας βουλιμία και αλυτρωτικές ψευδαισθήσεις και από την τουρκική επεκτατικότητα και διχοτομική στόχευση που εξυπηρετούσαν ξένα παρά δικά μας συμφέροντα, οδηγήσαμε τα πράγματα στον ανεξέλεγκτο εποικισμό και εκτουρκισμό της μισής μας πατρίδας, ενώ χάσαμε τον έλεγχο και στο άλλο μισό. Και καταντήσαμε να συζητούμε μια ζωή για το Κυπριακό ενώ η ποιότητα ζωής έχει υποβαθμιστεί επικίνδυνα.


Translation

We were unable to see what was happening in our country for decades. We failed to see that the TC community was getting smaller and smaller, because of our bulimia and our quest for the desirable and the Turkish expansionism. All these served foreign rather than Cypriot interests and eventually we led our country to receive an uncontrolled number of settlers and turkification of half of our country. We have eventually ended talking only about the Cyprus issue and allowing the quality of our life to deteriorate.

Those passionately said words surely come from someone who passionately loves Cyprus. I am not surprised on bit that people like boomerang, pyrpolyser, hatter, piratis and kouroupettos are on the opposite side. I did not expect anything else from them. I feel, however, for DT, who has the capacity to understand a passionate cry of desperation from a person that feels nothing than love and respect for his country, like the author of the article.
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Postby boomerang » Fri May 14, 2010 4:10 pm

Bananiot wrote:
Those passionately said words surely come from someone who passionately loves Cyprus. I am not surprised on bit that people like boomerang, pyrpolyser, hatter, piratis and kouroupettos are on the opposite side. I did not expect anything else from them. I feel, however, for DT, who has the capacity to understand a passionate cry of desperation from a person that feels nothing than love and respect for his country, like the author of the article.


hmmm...says the endorser of apartheid
...unfortunately for you, living in a cave with a cave mentality to bout it has been outlawed long ago...pity you missed your gloriours chance...what a dickhaed... :lol:

and when it comes to feelling, keep it up one day you might even discover your balls...just pointing out the feasable banana... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Fri May 14, 2010 4:12 pm

boomerang wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
Those passionately said words surely come from someone who passionately loves Cyprus. I am not surprised on bit that people like boomerang, pyrpolyser, hatter, piratis and kouroupettos are on the opposite side. I did not expect anything else from them. I feel, however, for DT, who has the capacity to understand a passionate cry of desperation from a person that feels nothing than love and respect for his country, like the author of the article.


hmmm...says the endorser of apartheid
...unfortunately for you, living in a cave with a cave mentality to bout it has been outlawed long ago...pity you missed your gloriours chance...what a dickhaed... :lol:

and when it comes to feelling, keep it up one day you might even discover your balls...just pointing out the feasable banana... :lol:

I say old chap, were you listed as one fo the no hopers, shame, but sooner or later you have to face reality. That's life as it were.
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Postby boomerang » Fri May 14, 2010 4:17 pm

YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
Those passionately said words surely come from someone who passionately loves Cyprus. I am not surprised on bit that people like boomerang, pyrpolyser, hatter, piratis and kouroupettos are on the opposite side. I did not expect anything else from them. I feel, however, for DT, who has the capacity to understand a passionate cry of desperation from a person that feels nothing than love and respect for his country, like the author of the article.


hmmm...says the endorser of apartheid
...unfortunately for you, living in a cave with a cave mentality to bout it has been outlawed long ago...pity you missed your gloriours chance...what a dickhaed... :lol:

and when it comes to feelling, keep it up one day you might even discover your balls...just pointing out the feasable banana... :lol:

I say old chap, were you listed as one fo the no hopers, shame, but sooner or later you have to face reality. That's life as it were.


hmmm...trying to lick banana's marbles now are we?...naughty, naughty, naughty... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Fri May 14, 2010 5:31 pm

boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
Those passionately said words surely come from someone who passionately loves Cyprus. I am not surprised on bit that people like boomerang, pyrpolyser, hatter, piratis and kouroupettos are on the opposite side. I did not expect anything else from them. I feel, however, for DT, who has the capacity to understand a passionate cry of desperation from a person that feels nothing than love and respect for his country, like the author of the article.


hmmm...says the endorser of apartheid
...unfortunately for you, living in a cave with a cave mentality to bout it has been outlawed long ago...pity you missed your gloriours chance...what a dickhaed... :lol:

and when it comes to feelling, keep it up one day you might even discover your balls...just pointing out the feasable banana... :lol:

I say old chap, were you listed as one fo the no hopers, shame, but sooner or later you have to face reality. That's life as it were.


hmmm...trying to lick banana's marbles now are we?...naughty, naughty, naughty... :lol:

All your inner thoughts are being washed all over the forum old chap, what?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 14, 2010 5:36 pm

...i see, "we" both want a solution, but we don't want to change.

better is impossible, so let's leave things the same.

have to be "Greeks" and "Turks", Cyprus is just an island, afterall.

...and we can blame each other for what's past forever! (that's easy)
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 14, 2010 8:44 pm

Trust is the key word repulse we do not trust each other one iota thats why we will never be able to find a solution.
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Postby Acikgoz » Fri May 14, 2010 8:54 pm

Bananiot wrote:Translation

We were unable to see what was happening in our country for decades. We failed to see that the TC community was getting smaller and smaller, because of our bulimia and our quest for the desirable and the Turkish expansionism. All these served foreign rather than Cypriot interests and eventually we led our country to receive an uncontrolled number of settlers and turkification of half of our country. We have eventually ended talking only about the Cyprus issue and allowing the quality of our life to deteriorate.

Those passionately said words surely come from someone who passionately loves Cyprus.


Real stuff. The wheel keeps turning and you can't blame the human spirit for that, I am surprised however that around 2006 people were not able to grasp how intransigence would lead towards the current direction for our island.
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Postby Hatter » Fri May 14, 2010 9:31 pm

Bananiot wrote:Whereas Hatter, supports what?

A solution that restores the human rights and democratic freedoms of all cypriots.

Bananiot wrote:May be you have a better working idea that can lead to solution.

There are many better working ideas that have been suggested in this forum.

Bananiot wrote:I presume you want solution Hatter

Correct. But a real solution, not an instrument of Turkey's expansionism.


Bananiot wrote:and you do understand that in a few years there will be no problem to solve, without solution.

There is a questionable implication here: Do you mean that because time is not on the side of the cypriots, it follows that the cypriots should accept any old solution now, even a disastrous one? this is reminiscent of the scarmongering that was going on in 2004 to bully the GCs into accepting the AP. If time is of the essence, then all the more reason for efforts to be made in the right direction - whereas the kind of things that you inavriably support or promote in this forum would facilitate and accelerate the path to "no problem to solve" (by which I assume you mean that Cyprus and her people would be in an unsalvageable situation), while at the same time depriving the cypriots of any means to resist.

But a comment about the time factor is in order, and I hope it does not divert too much from the main issue: Yes, 35 years is a long time. Your friend Gaston does not have a monopoly on passion, love and respect for his country. Virtually every cypriot feels the same (with the exception of quislings, cynical money grabbing self-interested traitors and the like - but then again this is nothing new). If Gaston is anxious and saddened by the Cyprus problem inhibiting other important things, one can only feel sorry for him. But here is the crux of the matter: no one said it would be easy, it is a struggle ... and it is the same for all cypriots. If he promoted the cause of his country and the rights of his fellow cypriots may be the prospects for cyprus would be better.
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Postby YFred » Fri May 14, 2010 9:35 pm

Hatter, you don't mean Kickapoo's crappy plan do you?
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