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Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu May 13, 2010 10:53 am

Come on Republic of Cyprus. Unprovoked beating up of tourists? Time some of your citizens joined the rest of civilization, isn't it?
How embarrasing for you.


http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

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Postby Me Ed » Thu May 13, 2010 11:22 am

Yes this is embarrasing and the authorities must do more to halt this criminal behaviour and to describe these criminals as savages is appropriate.

RoCs citizens are law abiding and respectful and it is a civilised EU country.
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Postby kafenes » Thu May 13, 2010 11:40 am

If it was me, I would plant land mines and blow up any bastard trying to trasspass on my property. Would love to see them try Paphos next time. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu May 13, 2010 11:47 am

kafenes wrote:If it was me, I would plant land mines and blow up any bastard trying to trasspass on my property. Would love to see them try Paphos next time. :lol: :lol: :lol:


"Git orf my land!" Doesn't quite extend to beating up people. We have seen hunt supporters in the UK who have done this to the "Sabs" and it's against the law there as well. At the time in the UK hunting was legal - bird snaring in Cyprus is not.
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Re: EU Country or 3rd world "savages"?

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu May 13, 2010 11:47 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:Come on Republic of Cyprus. Unprovoked beating up of tourists? Time some of your citizens joined the rest of civilization, isn't it?
How embarrasing for you.


http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

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Why do you consider this to be unprovoked? These activists were entering private property and causing wilful damage there. Bird trapping may be illegal but this does not permit private individuals to take the law into their own hands.
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Re: EU Country or 3rd world "savages"?

Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu May 13, 2010 12:03 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:Come on Republic of Cyprus. Unprovoked beating up of tourists? Time some of your citizens joined the rest of civilization, isn't it?
How embarrasing for you.


http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

:oops: :oops:


Why do you consider this to be unprovoked? These activists were entering private property and causing wilful damage there. Bird trapping may be illegal but this does not permit private individuals to take the law into their own hands.


Please read the last paragraph of the "background" section on the linked site.

http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

"The trappers in this area are likely to attack unwitting tourists - who could be mistaken for conservation activists - (hikers and strollers in the open countryside) without warning."

Note the term "open countryside".

Meets my definition of unprovoked.
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Re: EU Country or 3rd world "savages"?

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu May 13, 2010 12:16 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
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vaughanwilliams wrote:Come on Republic of Cyprus. Unprovoked beating up of tourists? Time some of your citizens joined the rest of civilization, isn't it?
How embarrasing for you.


http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

:oops: :oops:


Why do you consider this to be unprovoked? These activists were entering private property and causing wilful damage there. Bird trapping may be illegal but this does not permit private individuals to take the law into their own hands.


Please read the last paragraph of the "background" section on the linked site.

http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

"The trappers in this area are likely to attack unwitting tourists - who could be mistaken for conservation activists - (hikers and strollers in the open countryside) without warning."

Note the term "open countryside".

Meets my definition of unprovoked.


Doesn't meet mine, sorry. The fact is that the previous illegal acts of these activists have created the expectation that such acts will be repeated, so that certain individuals are taking pre-emptive action to see that they are not.

This makes me angry because I love to go walking in the countryside alone when I find the time, and I may find myself being targeted as an activist, when I am not. And I blame these outsiders who have come in and inflamed the situation. They could have chosen far better ways of getting their message across.
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Re: EU Country or 3rd world "savages"?

Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu May 13, 2010 1:51 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:Come on Republic of Cyprus. Unprovoked beating up of tourists? Time some of your citizens joined the rest of civilization, isn't it?
How embarrasing for you.


http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

:oops: :oops:


Why do you consider this to be unprovoked? These activists were entering private property and causing wilful damage there. Bird trapping may be illegal but this does not permit private individuals to take the law into their own hands.


Please read the last paragraph of the "background" section on the linked site.

http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

"The trappers in this area are likely to attack unwitting tourists - who could be mistaken for conservation activists - (hikers and strollers in the open countryside) without warning."

Note the term "open countryside".

Meets my definition of unprovoked.


Doesn't meet mine, sorry. The fact is that the previous illegal acts of these activists have created the expectation that such acts will be repeated, so that certain individuals are taking pre-emptive action to see that they are not.

This makes me angry because I love to go walking in the countryside alone when I find the time, and I may find myself being targeted as an activist, when I am not. And I blame these outsiders who have come in and inflamed the situation. They could have chosen far better ways of getting their message across.


So, if I get mugged in a certain street, it's OK for me to attack strangers in that street (taking pre-emptive action) from now on, on the premise that they might also be muggers?
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Re: EU Country or 3rd world "savages"?

Postby CBBB » Thu May 13, 2010 2:22 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:Come on Republic of Cyprus. Unprovoked beating up of tourists? Time some of your citizens joined the rest of civilization, isn't it?
How embarrasing for you.


http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

:oops: :oops:


Why do you consider this to be unprovoked? These activists were entering private property and causing wilful damage there. Bird trapping may be illegal but this does not permit private individuals to take the law into their own hands.


Please read the last paragraph of the "background" section on the linked site.

http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

"The trappers in this area are likely to attack unwitting tourists - who could be mistaken for conservation activists - (hikers and strollers in the open countryside) without warning."

Note the term "open countryside".

Meets my definition of unprovoked.


Doesn't meet mine, sorry. The fact is that the previous illegal acts of these activists have created the expectation that such acts will be repeated, so that certain individuals are taking pre-emptive action to see that they are not.

This makes me angry because I love to go walking in the countryside alone when I find the time, and I may find myself being targeted as an activist, when I am not. And I blame these outsiders who have come in and inflamed the situation. They could have chosen far better ways of getting their message across.


So, if I get mugged in a certain street, it's OK for me to attack strangers in that street (taking pre-emptive action) from now on, on the premise that they might also be muggers?


These people were not on a street, they were on private property where they shouldn't have been. If they had noticed that there were illegal activities on private property, they should have informed the authorities.

You wouldn't get upset with people on your private property (even if it doesn't really belong to you, carpetbagger)?
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Re: EU Country or 3rd world "savages"?

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu May 13, 2010 2:26 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:Come on Republic of Cyprus. Unprovoked beating up of tourists? Time some of your citizens joined the rest of civilization, isn't it?
How embarrasing for you.


http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

:oops: :oops:


Why do you consider this to be unprovoked? These activists were entering private property and causing wilful damage there. Bird trapping may be illegal but this does not permit private individuals to take the law into their own hands.


Please read the last paragraph of the "background" section on the linked site.

http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?warning

"The trappers in this area are likely to attack unwitting tourists - who could be mistaken for conservation activists - (hikers and strollers in the open countryside) without warning."

Note the term "open countryside".

Meets my definition of unprovoked.


Doesn't meet mine, sorry. The fact is that the previous illegal acts of these activists have created the expectation that such acts will be repeated, so that certain individuals are taking pre-emptive action to see that they are not.

This makes me angry because I love to go walking in the countryside alone when I find the time, and I may find myself being targeted as an activist, when I am not. And I blame these outsiders who have come in and inflamed the situation. They could have chosen far better ways of getting their message across.


So, if I get mugged in a certain street, it's OK for me to attack strangers in that street (taking pre-emptive action) from now on, on the premise that they might also be muggers?


No, it isn't. What a strange question.
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