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[Gasman]

Yes I get the picture Cap. I thought this was RICH!

Even Radio Vatican carried the story and interview with our spokesperson.

I was about to post and say I don't like the practice one bit, not here, nor in Malta, Italy or anywhere else it goes on. But there are things I get a lot more upset about. Cruelty to and abuse of children is one of them. So I hope you take my point about the Vatican commenting on it.

And, where abuse of children is concerned, without even seeing any statistics, I am positive it is a MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM in the UK (and other countries) than it is in Cyprus. Of course that doesn't mean every Brit is a child offender but you get my drift?

Child slave labour, repression of women, lots of things I consider to be higher up the priority list for people to demonstrate and get 'active' about.

Cap is right. You go to a small country like Cyprus or Malta and there is no way you could spend even a week there, anywhere on the island, without either seeing some evidence of cruelty to animals or illegal trapping.

There are lots of unsavoury things going on in the so called civilised UK - illegal dog fighting, cock fighting, badger baiting - LOTS! But you could easily spend a week, a month, or even several years or maybe your whole lifetime there without ever coming across evidence of any of them. Because they are usually geographically confined to certain areas - Cyprus is about the size of one of those areas.

People who live in cities get very upset about hunting and shooting and fishing - in the main - people who live in the countryside do not.

These activists could have chosen to report the offending articles. They didn't.

Returning to the UK - people get beaten up, mugged, stabbed and worse for NOTHING there! Often for just happening to be 'in the wrong place at the wrong time'. Or perceived to be 'looking at someone'. They do deserve sympathy. They were not taking a calculated risk.

[Cap]

Yes I get the picture Cap. I thought this was RICH!

Even Radio Vatican carried the story and interview with our spokesperson.

I was about to post and say I don't like the practice one bit, not here, nor in Malta, Italy or anywhere else it goes on. But there are things I get a lot more upset about. Cruelty to and abuse of children is one of them. So I hope you take my point about the Vatican commenting on it.

And, where abuse of children is concerned, without even seeing any statistics, I am positive it is a MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM in the UK (and other countries) than it is in Cyprus. Of course that doesn't mean every Brit is a child offender but you get my drift?

Child slave labour, repression of women, lots of things I consider to be higher up the priority list for people to demonstrate and get 'active' about.

Cap is right. You go to a small country like Cyprus or Malta and there is no way you could spend even a week there, anywhere on the island, without either seeing some evidence of cruelty to animals or illegal trapping.

There are lots of unsavoury things going on in the so called civilised UK - illegal dog fighting, cock fighting, badger baiting - LOTS! But you could easily spend a week, a month, or even several years or maybe your whole lifetime there without ever coming across evidence of any of them. Because they are usually geographically confined to certain areas - Cyprus is about the size of one of those areas.

People who live in cities get very upset about hunting and shooting and fishing - in the main - people who live in the countryside do not.

These activists could have chosen to report the offending articles. They didn't.

Returning to the UK - people get beaten up, mugged, stabbed and worse for NOTHING there! Often for just happening to be 'in the wrong place at the wrong time'. Or perceived to be 'looking at someone'. They do deserve sympathy. They were not taking a calculated risk.

Bingo!
Good post Gasman.

[Gasman]

Cap, I've had pets all my life. I'm an animal lover. But a realist too. When I was in Malta and visited Valetta Harbour, I moved closer to look at what I thought were lots of large jellyfish in the water. It turned out to be knotted carrier bags filled with dead kittens. Cats are a problem in Malta (apparently) they are everywhere. But they cash in on it by selling the tourist bags and knick knacks sporting the CATS OF MALTA logos (just as they do in Cyprus). It upset me. But it didn't galvanise me into going commando to find out who was doing it and sabotage them. I just wished I hadn't bothered to visit the harbour.

I kept asking my companion what all the strange little constructions on the open land were. Every time he said 'Don't ask - you won't like it - I will tell you when we get home'. It was the trappings and traps for the migratory birds.

But I spent more than 10 yrs living down in the West Country in the UK before moving here. I saw the other extreme - city folk with weekend retreats complaining to the local council about cocks crowing in the mornings! I kid you not! Seems only 'city dwellers' labour under the delusion that the 'countryside' is a 'quiet' place. It isn't.

When I first came to Cyprus, I 'did my bit' for neglected animals by working voluntarily for an animal charity for a year, three mornings a week. (I'm sure that's why almost 100% of their volunteer helpers are Brits - they are so shocked when they arrive they become determined to try to make a difference!) I now think that, apart from supporting the good ones with donations, the best thing I can do is make sure my OWN animals are well cared for.

There were lots more things I didn't like about the UK and the way it was 'going' when I decided to leave than there are things I don't like about Cyprus and the way it 'operates'. But I am ever aware that it is 'their country' not mine. (Having said that, I do get peeved if they thumb their nose at EU law too much - having 'Taken the Money' lol!)

My Bank Manager explained Cyprus in a sentence to me. He said 'it is like an unruly but basically good teenager' suddenly realising it is in the grown up world but still has a lot of growing up to do.

No reasonable person could expect a country with such different habits, traditions and entrenched ideas to change overnight because they 'joined the EU'.

[CBBB]

Cap, I've had pets all my life. I'm an animal lover. But a realist too. When I was in Malta and visited Valetta Harbour, I moved closer to look at what I thought were lots of large jellyfish in the water. It turned out to be knotted carrier bags filled with dead kittens. Cats are a problem in Malta (apparently) they are everywhere. But they cash in on it by selling the tourist bags and knick knacks sporting the CATS OF MALTA logos (just as they do in Cyprus). It upset me. But it didn't galvanise me into going commando to find out who was doing it and sabotage them. I just wished I hadn't bothered to visit the harbour.

I kept asking my companion what all the strange little constructions on the open land were. Every time he said 'Don't ask - you won't like it - I will tell you when we get home'. It was the trappings and traps for the migratory birds.

But I spent more than 10 yrs living down in the West Country in the UK before moving here. I saw the other extreme - city folk with weekend retreats complaining to the local council about cocks crowing in the mornings! I kid you not! Seems only 'city dwellers' labour under the delusion that the 'countryside' is a 'quiet' place. It isn't.

When I first came to Cyprus, I 'did my bit' for neglected animals by working voluntarily for an animal charity for a year, three mornings a week. (I'm sure that's why almost 100% of their volunteer helpers are Brits - they are so shocked when they arrive they become determined to try to make a difference!) I now think that, apart from supporting the good ones with donations, the best thing I can do is make sure my OWN animals are well cared for.

There were lots more things I didn't like about the UK and the way it was 'going' when I decided to leave than there are things I don't like about Cyprus and the way it 'operates'. But I am ever aware that it is 'their country' not mine. (Having said that, I do get peeved if they thumb their nose at EU law too much - having 'Taken the Money' lol!)

My Bank Manager explained Cyprus in a sentence to me. He said 'it is like an unruly but basically good teenager' suddenly realising it is in the grown up world but still has a lot of growing up to do.

No reasonable person could expect a country with such different habits, traditions and entrenched ideas to change overnight because they 'joined the EU'.

FYI, much to my surprise, Cyprus did not take all of the money they could have done from the EU! We were probably late in applying for it!

[humanist]

Come on Republic of Cyprus. Unprovoked beating up of tourists? Time some of your citizens joined the rest of civilization, isn't it?
How embarrasing for you.

says the unethical carperbagger scum who supports the invasion of one nation upon another and resides in an unrecognised entity.... get a grip dickhead. By the way have you see the atrocities the british place upon some tourists.

get a grip on yourself you moron.

[Gasman]

Is that right CBBB? And they had to pay millions of it back in fines for hoarding sugar just prior to getting in!

Have you got a link to that CBBB? I believed Cyprus to be one of the countries that got more out than they have to put in.

[humanist]

by the way if someone has any links to the case where two British holiday makers killed the GC young man on a scooter please provide this idiotic moron the link .... to showcase the British exemplary citizen .............. lol

[Cap]

Gasman CBBB and Humanist FTW
Best posts on the whole thread.
The truth is a bitch innit folks?

[Milo]

The truth is, what the activists did was at times trepassing, breaking civil laws to stop an illegal activity, the activists themselves were not arrested. And if you check their website next year as every year since 2004 they will be back.

Btw having lived in the countryside ALL my life here in Cyprus and in the UK, I find that its the 'townies' that tend to do a fair bit of the hunting, I have always been surrounded by country people then and now who are sick to death of them. A Conservative MP who lived not far from me in the UK, although I can,t see his name in the new cabinet, is one who wants the UK ban repealed, even though the majority of the population wanted it banned, these people don,t like being told what they can do.

The reality is Hunting with dogs was finally banned in the UK, bird trapping with glue sticks and mistnets is also banned here and has been for years.

Cyprus could have a lucrative Springtime set of tourists IF you believe what birdlifecyprus says, an organisation made up of mostly Cypriots which I support, so my support of a country I live in goes to those that choose other ways for their enviroment, but breaking laws are more important to some and keeping traditions, which other countries are now removing.

Shame as Cyprus has one of the best and most diverse migratory birds visiting and only a few short years ago before joining the EU, Cyprus was then allowing her hunters to blast millions of them per year. That has changed. The Game Fund website also ran a poll asking should the permitted hunting season be lengthened or shortened, those wishing to shorten it became the majority quite quickly.

Its easy to come to a country that you know very well, live and love it, then to appease people put your head down, some of us join the locals in their quest for change, if that means being unpopular, I,m happy to stick my neck out

Mind you being a Brit on here hardly wins me any friends But of course I don,t give a s**t about that

[CBBB]

The truth is, what the activists did was at times trepassing, breaking civil laws to stop an illegal activity, the activists themselves were not arrested. And if you check their website next year as every year since 2004 they will be back.

Btw having lived in the countryside ALL my life here in Cyprus and in the UK, I find that its the 'townies' that tend to do a fair bit of the hunting, I have always been surrounded by country people then and now who are sick to death of them. A Conservative MP who lived not far from me in the UK, although I can,t see his name in the new cabinet, is one who wants the UK ban repealed, even though the majority of the population wanted it banned, these people don,t like being told what they can do.

The reality is Hunting with dogs was finally banned in the UK, bird trapping with glue sticks and mistnets is also banned here and has been for years.

Cyprus could have a lucrative Springtime set of tourists IF you believe what birdlifecyprus says, an organisation made up of mostly Cypriots which I support, so my support of a country I live in goes to those that choose other ways for their enviroment, but breaking laws are more important to some and keeping traditions, which other countries are now removing.

Shame as Cyprus has one of the best and most diverse migratory birds visiting and only a few short years ago before joining the EU, Cyprus was then allowing her hunters to blast millions of them per year. That has changed. The Game Fund website also ran a poll asking should the permitted hunting season be lengthened or shortened, those wishing to shorten it became the majority quite quickly.

Its easy to come to a country that you know very well, live and love it, then to appease people put your head down, some of us join the locals in their quest for change, if that means being unpopular, I,m happy to stick my neck out

Mind you being a Brit on here hardly wins me any friends But of course I don,t give a s**t about that

Neither do I!