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[vaughanwilliams]

Demonstrates the callousness of mind, rather than work harder to find a good solution, perpetuate conflict - Get others to spill their blood for your money and mission. Noted B25.

Bit like the Saudis who swore to fight the Israelies down to the last Egyptian.

[YFred]

Demonstrates the callousness of mind, rather than work harder to find a good solution, perpetuate conflict - Get others to spill their blood for your money and mission. Noted B25.

Bit like the Saudis who swore to fight the Israelies down to the last Egyptian.

That's not the kind of fighting our GR likes. He is only willing to lose upto 20,000 but he may consider a higher number if it becomes necessary.

The problem he has is not knowing the magic number the eu requires before instigating any action with the EU defence force which has not been formed yet but that is not that important.

[B25]

Demonstrates the callousness of mind, rather than work harder to find a good solution, perpetuate conflict - Get others to spill their blood for your money and mission. Noted B25.

As the US and the UK are very successful at this and we should take a leaf from their book.

No good talking to you lot anymore, you are just racist bigots that want an apartheid type solution for this Island and you wouldn't have anything else.

What else can we do other than bend over for you and say a BIG thank you at the end.

No, my dear Acikgoz, we need help, we as a country are to small to take on the mighty turkey, we need help. If funding is a stratergy good enough for the civilised countries its good enough for me.

Why dont you afford the kurds that which you are demanding from us??

because if you did, we wouldn't have a leg to stand on would we, but you can see the unfairness of this deal so you won't, yet you demand it from us.

It has nothing to do with working harder, we have been at it for the last 36 years, your intransigence will not allow a solution to pass, because of your unreasonable demands.

We will wait, we have a 'vlangi' as they say. We will be the last straw of hey to break the camels (read Turkish) back, and I can't wait.

Have a nice day.

[YFred]

Demonstrates the callousness of mind, rather than work harder to find a good solution, perpetuate conflict - Get others to spill their blood for your money and mission. Noted B25.

As the US and the UK are very successful at this and we should take a leaf from their book.

No good talking to you lot anymore, you are just racist bigots that want an apartheid type solution for this Island and you wouldn't have anything else.

What else can we do other than bend over for you and say a BIG thank you at the end.

No, my dear Acikgoz, we need help, we as a country are to small to take on the mighty turkey, we need help. If funding is a stratergy good enough for the civilised countries its good enough for me.

Why dont you afford the kurds that which you are demanding from us??

because if you did, we wouldn't have a leg to stand on would we, but you can see the unfairness of this deal so you won't, yet you demand it from us.

It has nothing to do with working harder, we have been at it for the last 36 years, your intransigence will not allow a solution to pass, because of your unreasonable demands.

We will wait, we have a 'vlangi' as they say. We will be the last straw of hey to break the camels (read Turkish) back, and I can't wait.

Have a nice day.

Danderasu je da vlanjasu.
What's the matter? I detect high degree of depression in your post.
Off to the assylum are we?

[denizaksulu]

Demonstrates the callousness of mind, rather than work harder to find a good solution, perpetuate conflict - Get others to spill their blood for your money and mission. Noted B25.

As the US and the UK are very successful at this and we should take a leaf from their book.

No good talking to you lot anymore, you are just racist bigots that want an apartheid type solution for this Island and you wouldn't have anything else.

What else can we do other than bend over for you and say a BIG thank you at the end.

No, my dear Acikgoz, we need help, we as a country are to small to take on the mighty turkey, we need help. If funding is a stratergy good enough for the civilised countries its good enough for me.

Why dont you afford the kurds that which you are demanding from us??

because if you did, we wouldn't have a leg to stand on would we, but you can see the unfairness of this deal so you won't, yet you demand it from us.

It has nothing to do with working harder, we have been at it for the last 36 years, your intransigence will not allow a solution to pass, because of your unreasonable demands.

We will wait, we have a 'vlangi' as they say. We will be the last straw of hey to break the camels (read Turkish) back, and I can't wait.

Have a nice day.

Danderasu je da vlanjasu.
What's the matter? I detect high degree of depression in your post.
Off to the assylum are we?

Leave him alone, do you hear me. He is an American. He cant help it.

[YFred]

Demonstrates the callousness of mind, rather than work harder to find a good solution, perpetuate conflict - Get others to spill their blood for your money and mission. Noted B25.

As the US and the UK are very successful at this and we should take a leaf from their book.

No good talking to you lot anymore, you are just racist bigots that want an apartheid type solution for this Island and you wouldn't have anything else.

What else can we do other than bend over for you and say a BIG thank you at the end.

No, my dear Acikgoz, we need help, we as a country are to small to take on the mighty turkey, we need help. If funding is a stratergy good enough for the civilised countries its good enough for me.

Why dont you afford the kurds that which you are demanding from us??

because if you did, we wouldn't have a leg to stand on would we, but you can see the unfairness of this deal so you won't, yet you demand it from us.

It has nothing to do with working harder, we have been at it for the last 36 years, your intransigence will not allow a solution to pass, because of your unreasonable demands.

We will wait, we have a 'vlangi' as they say. We will be the last straw of hey to break the camels (read Turkish) back, and I can't wait.

Have a nice day.

Danderasu je da vlanjasu.
What's the matter? I detect high degree of depression in your post.
Off to the assylum are we?

Leave him alone, do you hear me. He is an American. He cant help it.

I know that, but which one?

[Acikgoz]

Demonstrates the callousness of mind, rather than work harder to find a good solution, perpetuate conflict - Get others to spill their blood for your money and mission. Noted B25.

Why dont you afford the kurds that which you are demanding from us??

because if you did, we wouldn't have a leg to stand on would we, but you can see the unfairness of this deal so you won't, yet you demand it from us.

It has nothing to do with working harder, we have been at it for the last 36 years, your intransigence will not allow a solution to pass, because of your unreasonable demands.

We will wait, we have a 'vlangi' as they say. We will be the last straw of hey to break the camels (read Turkish) back, and I can't wait.

Have a nice day.

Dude, I am not Turkey so I don't have to justify their stance on the Kurds, however I would contend theat Turkey's actions do show a hypocracy. The analogy does have many sizeable flaws that could be argued, but for the sake of my response inconsequential. If they were to have a referenda and they vote for independence, I would be all the happier for them if that is what they want.

[YFred]

Demonstrates the callousness of mind, rather than work harder to find a good solution, perpetuate conflict - Get others to spill their blood for your money and mission. Noted B25.

Why dont you afford the kurds that which you are demanding from us??

because if you did, we wouldn't have a leg to stand on would we, but you can see the unfairness of this deal so you won't, yet you demand it from us.

It has nothing to do with working harder, we have been at it for the last 36 years, your intransigence will not allow a solution to pass, because of your unreasonable demands.

We will wait, we have a 'vlangi' as they say. We will be the last straw of hey to break the camels (read Turkish) back, and I can't wait.

Have a nice day.

Dude, I am not Turkey so I don't have to justify their stance on the Kurds, however I would contend theat Turkey's actions do show a hypocracy. The analogy does have many sizeable flaws that could be argued, but for the sake of my response inconsequential. If they were to have a referenda and they vote for independence, I would be all the happier for them if that is what they want.

What I would like answered by our patriot friends is why are they reccomending political freedoms for the kurds they despise given to the TCs. Some hypocracy here I feel.

I am with you on that one Acikoz. The Kurds should be given athe choice to decide their own future and so should the TCs.

Hade reh Bastardo25 lets hear you say the same thing. Freedom to both Kurds and TCs. Why stop there lets give freedom to all the oppressed of the world.

[Tim Drayton]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

[denizaksulu]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

Just ignore him. He is an ignoramus.