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[YFred]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

Pull yourself together man. What does the acting leader of PKK know compared to All knowing all singing all dancing Greek tragedy hero Piratis and his disciples Oracle and the rest of the reprobates.

Pass the fasulya plate FFS I can feel a storm brewing from within.

[Tim Drayton]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

Pull yourself together man. What does the acting leader of PKK know compared to All knowing all singing all dancing Greek tragedy hero Piratis and his disciples Oracle and the rest of the reprobates.

Pass the fasulya plate FFS I can feel a storm brewing from within.

Right, I get it, Piratis in his infinite wisdom knows better than the Kurdish people themsleves what is best for them and what they should want. Thank you for your help, oh wise one.

[denizaksulu]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

Pull yourself together man. What does the acting leader of PKK know compared to All knowing all singing all dancing Greek tragedy hero Piratis and his disciples Oracle and the rest of the reprobates.

Pass the fasulya plate FFS I can feel a storm brewing from within.

Right, I get it, Piratis in his infinite wisdom knows better than the Kurdish people themsleves what is best for them and what they should want. Thank you for your help, oh wise one.

RIGHT, said Fred


No one need to prove anything to you Tim. Fear not.

[YFred]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

Pull yourself together man. What does the acting leader of PKK know compared to All knowing all singing all dancing Greek tragedy hero Piratis and his disciples Oracle and the rest of the reprobates.

Pass the fasulya plate FFS I can feel a storm brewing from within.

Right, I get it, Piratis in his infinite wisdom knows better than the Kurdish people themsleves what is best for them and what they should want. Thank you for your help, oh wise one.

RIGHT, said Fred


No one need to prove anything to you Tim. Fear not.

I get it, I am too sexy for my..........
Must admit to certain amount of attraction from the old philly front to this day. They just can't have enough of me like.

[BirKibrisli]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

Tim,
What your 'dim' Anglo mind cannot grasp is this: the way the fanatical Greek nationalist GC sees the world has nothing to do with objective reality...Everything in the real world must obey the parameters and the wishes of the fanatial GC mind...Anything that does not coincide with the expected delusional outcome of the Cyprus conflict is totally and immediately discarded...The poor Kurds simply have no choice in this matter...They have been elevated to the rank of saviours of the GCs from the Turkish yoke...They will have to do their part in destabilising Turkey to help the balance of power to change...This is what the Ortodox God has degreed,and HE must be obeyed...When the Kurd and the Armenians do enough damage the non-existent EU Army will join forces with the CNG and drive Turkey out of Cyprus...You must not have any doubt about this,and you must not let the truth get in the way of the fanatical GC mind...Where the Kurds and the Armenians fail the Islamists will take over,and they will do their bit to contribute to the liberation of Cyprus from Turkish oppression...Who is this Karayilan,this black snake, who dares to speak of a peaceful and democratic solution withing Turkey's borders??? The fanatical GC heart simply does not recognise any such authority...The hatred and the bitterness have been building up since 1571,and it is approaching the point of explosion...History is not a flowing process for the fanatical GC,but an instrument to spread the Hellenic culture and influence over all time and all space...Please,I know it is difficult,but try to understand where Piratis is coming from...Even if you fail because of your impaired,feable Anglo mind,you will get credit for your efforts...

[YFred]

Does anyone think this has embarrassed our Piratis in any way?

[Tim Drayton]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

Tim,
What your 'dim' Anglo mind cannot grasp is this: the way the fanatical Greek nationalist GC sees the world has nothing to do with objective reality...Everything in the real world must obey the parameters and the wishes of the fanatial GC mind...Anything that does not coincide with the expected delusional outcome of the Cyprus conflict is totally and immediately discarded...The poor Kurds simply have no choice in this matter...They have been elevated to the rank of saviours of the GCs from the Turkish yoke...They will have to do their part in destabilising Turkey to help the balance of power to change...This is what the Ortodox God has degreed,and HE must be obeyed...When the Kurd and the Armenians do enough damage the non-existent EU Army will join forces with the CNG and drive Turkey out of Cyprus...You must not have any doubt about this,and you must not let the truth get in the way of the fanatical GC mind...Where the Kurds and the Armenians fail the Islamists will take over,and they will do their bit to contribute to the liberation of Cyprus from Turkish oppression...Who is this Karayilan,this black snake, who dares to speak of a peaceful and democratic solution withing Turkey's borders??? The fanatical GC heart simply does not recognise any such authority...The hatred and the bitterness have been building up since 1571,and it is approaching the point of explosion...History is not a flowing process for the fanatical GC,but an instrument to spread the Hellenic culture and influence over all time and all space...Please,I know it is difficult,but try to understand where Piratis is coming from...Even if you fail because of your impaired,feable Anglo mind,you will get credit for your efforts...

But ... you are a Turk. How can I trust you?

[BirKibrisli]

Sorry to interrupt again, but it is this dim chap again. Still trying to get my thick head around things. I am told that anybody who thinks that the majority of Kurds living in Turkey do not want an independent Kurdistan is stupid, which is fine, but only last year the Times of London sent a reporter into the mountains to interview acting head of the PKK, Murad Karayılan, in which he said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 360955.ece

Kurds do not want to continue the war. We believe we can solve the Kurdish question without spilling more blood. We are ready for a peaceful and democratic solution in Turkey — to be solved within Turkey’s borders.

So here we have the head of the PKK, as far as I know the most militant Kurdish organisation that until the recent ceasefire was waging an all-out guerilla war against the Turkish state, saying that he wants a solution 'within Turkey'. Forgive my stupidity, but I do not understand how a 'solution within Turkey' is compatible with an 'independent Kurdistan'. And this is the leader of the most militant Kurdish organisation there is. I cannot get my tiny brain around this. If you think that the majority of Kurds in Turkey want something other than an independent state you are said to be naive or stupid, yet I cannot give any other interpretation to this quote from the acting leader of the PKK. Can anybody out there please help me?

Tim,
What your 'dim' Anglo mind cannot grasp is this: the way the fanatical Greek nationalist GC sees the world has nothing to do with objective reality...Everything in the real world must obey the parameters and the wishes of the fanatial GC mind...Anything that does not coincide with the expected delusional outcome of the Cyprus conflict is totally and immediately discarded...The poor Kurds simply have no choice in this matter...They have been elevated to the rank of saviours of the GCs from the Turkish yoke...They will have to do their part in destabilising Turkey to help the balance of power to change...This is what the Ortodox God has degreed,and HE must be obeyed...When the Kurd and the Armenians do enough damage the non-existent EU Army will join forces with the CNG and drive Turkey out of Cyprus...You must not have any doubt about this,and you must not let the truth get in the way of the fanatical GC mind...Where the Kurds and the Armenians fail the Islamists will take over,and they will do their bit to contribute to the liberation of Cyprus from Turkish oppression...Who is this Karayilan,this black snake, who dares to speak of a peaceful and democratic solution withing Turkey's borders??? The fanatical GC heart simply does not recognise any such authority...The hatred and the bitterness have been building up since 1571,and it is approaching the point of explosion...History is not a flowing process for the fanatical GC,but an instrument to spread the Hellenic culture and influence over all time and all space...Please,I know it is difficult,but try to understand where Piratis is coming from...Even if you fail because of your impaired,feable Anglo mind,you will get credit for your efforts...

But ... you are a Turk. How can I trust you?

Oh,dear...You have fallen for the GC propaganda...I will say this slowly Tim,so you can follow...I am NOT a Turk...I AM a Turkish Cypriot...We never tell lies...So you can trust me...

[Pyrpolizer]

There is only one thing I could say to all this comparison with the Kurds. We (the GCs) would be very happy to have made the TCs all speak Greek as first language. We would be very happy to have assimilated them to become Greek Tcs.In the end they would also be very happy for what they became because that would actually be their very SELF IDENTITY, and Tim would live somewhere in Limassol among tens of them, all happy families, no one ever thinking of making their own state, and Tim would learn some of the Luruj language too (their past language, something like Yfreds langa). Like we today have an Armenian leading the party of Papadopoulos, we could have some a Greek TC for president, called Kibrilis (afrer cutting off his "Bir" of course for obvious reasons)

How the hell we were so incompetent compared to the Turks?

Hmm... it must have been something in our Greek genes, something paranoid something unexplainble...

[Acikgoz]

Forsight got the better of that plan with the equal status in the 1960 constitution.

A Greek TC for president - the arrogance. The Borg of Cyprus Island, sounds like a horror movie - resistance is futile.