The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


The real Piratis revealed.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Piratis » Wed May 12, 2010 8:22 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:It is funny how some losers who couldn't argue with me in the original thread started another thread to spread lies about me. These people hate me because I want the freedom of my island, human rights and democracy. When you are hated by such kind of scum you know that you are doing something right.

I do not hate anybody because of his race. If I hate somebody I hate him because of his views and/or actions.

If I was a racist and I hated all Turks and TCs then I should also hate Kikapu, who is a TC. But I don't. I love Kikapu and all the decent people who support the freedom of Cyprus and human and democratic rights for all Cypriots without racist discriminations.

The racists are those who are using excuses from half a century ago, trying to excuse human and democratic rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people today. The racists are those who want an Apartheid kind of solution that segregates Cypriots based on their ethnicity and gives different rights to people based on the religion and language they speak. The racists are those who still have the mentality of the Ottoman era, and want to impose on Cyprus in the 21st century the racist divisions that were imposed on us back then.



As I keep saying,your democracy and human right arguments might have some credibility IF you condemned the treatment of the TCs during 1963-74 by the RoC government and the GC community in general...But since you keep denying that there was any ill-treatment,or you justify it by saying it was self-inflicted,your words are just hollow and insincere..Your attitude to the TCs who have been born in Cyprus,and whose ancestors have been born in Cyprus for generations is evident in everyting you post..For you TCs are uninvited pests who have no right to be living or breathing in Cyprus unless they agree to forgo their identity and become "Cypriots" by which you mean Greek Cypriots,since you believe Cyprus is a Greek island and the only legitimate Cypriots are those of Greek descent...No amount of sugar coating by means of democratic or human rights arguments can disguise your distain of all TCs,except those who think exactly like you do on the Cyprus problem...You do not realise your attitude is racist and autoritarian to the point of being labeled fascistic...Your historical revisionism is breathtaking,and your selective presentation of the past events purely GC state propaganda...I wouldn't be surprised if in the end this Forum is exposed as initiated and sponsored by RoC deep state and/or RoC government public relations(read department of misinformation) office...


Everything you said about me is lies.

1) I many times condemned the treatment of TCs during 1963-74. But unlike you I don't see only a small selective part of history, I see the whole of it. So I also condemn the initiation of the conflict by the TCs in the 50s, the ill treatment of the TCs against the GCs between 1960 and 1974, and also the ethnic cleansing and all the other crimes and illegalities committed by TCs and Turkey from 1974 until today.

2) I have no problem for TCs to live in Cyprus as equal citizens and this is something I repeated so many times. Cyprus being a Greek island doesn't mean that everybody in it should be Greek. Every place has ethnic minorities and Cyprus doesn't need to be an exception. In fact I wouldn't want to live in a place that had people of just one ethnicity, it would be boring, and personally I have a lot of friends who are neither Greek or Cypriot. Your ethnic minority can have the 100% of the minority rights that other minorities have in all other countries. (unlike the Kurds in Turkey)

What I want is a free democratic Cyprus, where all citizens are equal without racist discriminations and other human and democratic violations.

I therefore reject the racist apartheid kind of systems you want to impose by force on Cyprus.


No, nothing said about you is a lie. Show us just one post of yours where you condemn the treatment of TC's. Sometime today please.


I have no problem to prove the lies that you and others are spreading.

I also condemn any criminal actions against innocent TCs, I condemn the actions of EOKA B and the actions of the cupists.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 211#477211

I do know about and fully recognize your suffering during that time.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 840#478840

Our side has clearly and officially condemned the coup and everything that resulted in the death or suffering of TCs

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 536#457536

Did I ever deny that TCs suffered or had casualties? Never.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 503#477503

These are just some examples. This is not the first time you attempt to spread such lies and the reason is obvious: You are looking for excuses not to have a free and democratic Cyprus were all citizens are equal because you want privileges and gains on our expense.
User avatar
Piratis
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 12261
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:08 pm

Postby Piratis » Wed May 12, 2010 8:34 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:It is funny how some losers who couldn't argue with me in the original thread started another thread to spread lies about me. These people hate me because I want the freedom of my island, human rights and democracy. When you are hated by such kind of scum you know that you are doing something right.

I do not hate anybody because of his race. If I hate somebody I hate him because of his views and/or actions.

If I was a racist and I hated all Turks and TCs then I should also hate Kikapu, who is a TC. But I don't. I love Kikapu and all the decent people who support the freedom of Cyprus and human and democratic rights for all Cypriots without racist discriminations.

The racists are those who are using excuses from half a century ago, trying to excuse human and democratic rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people today. The racists are those who want an Apartheid kind of solution that segregates Cypriots based on their ethnicity and gives different rights to people based on the religion and language they speak. The racists are those who still have the mentality of the Ottoman era, and want to impose on Cyprus in the 21st century the racist divisions that were imposed on us back then.



As I keep saying,your democracy and human right arguments might have some credibility IF you condemned the treatment of the TCs during 1963-74 by the RoC government and the GC community in general...But since you keep denying that there was any ill-treatment,or you justify it by saying it was self-inflicted,your words are just hollow and insincere..Your attitude to the TCs who have been born in Cyprus,and whose ancestors have been born in Cyprus for generations is evident in everyting you post..For you TCs are uninvited pests who have no right to be living or breathing in Cyprus unless they agree to forgo their identity and become "Cypriots" by which you mean Greek Cypriots,since you believe Cyprus is a Greek island and the only legitimate Cypriots are those of Greek descent...No amount of sugar coating by means of democratic or human rights arguments can disguise your distain of all TCs,except those who think exactly like you do on the Cyprus problem...You do not realise your attitude is racist and autoritarian to the point of being labeled fascistic...Your historical revisionism is breathtaking,and your selective presentation of the past events purely GC state propaganda...I wouldn't be surprised if in the end this Forum is exposed as initiated and sponsored by RoC deep state and/or RoC government public relations(read department of misinformation) office...


Everything you said about me is lies.

1) I many times condemned the treatment of TCs during 1963-74. But unlike you I don't see only a small selective part of history, I see the whole of it. So I also condemn the initiation of the conflict by the TCs in the 50s, the ill treatment of the TCs against the GCs between 1960 and 1974, and also the ethnic cleansing and all the other crimes and illegalities committed by TCs and Turkey from 1974 until today.

2) I have no problem for TCs to live in Cyprus as equal citizens and this is something I repeated so many times. Cyprus being a Greek island doesn't mean that everybody in it should be Greek. Every place has ethnic minorities and Cyprus doesn't need to be an exception. In fact I wouldn't want to live in a place that had people of just one ethnicity, it would be boring, and personally I have a lot of friends who are neither Greek or Cypriot. Your ethnic minority can have the 100% of the minority rights that other minorities have in all other countries. (unlike the Kurds in Turkey)

What I want is a free democratic Cyprus, where all citizens are equal without racist discriminations and other human and democratic violations.

I therefore reject the racist apartheid kind of systems you want to impose by force on Cyprus.


No, nothing said about you is a lie. Show us just one post of yours where you condemn the treatment of TC's. Sometime today please.


Our friend Piratis does not realise that his mantra "Cyprus is a Greek Island" is like a red rug to a bull for most TCs who have lived through the 50s and early 60s in Cyprus...Or maybe he knows it well and keeps saying it to provoke us...If Cyprus is a Greek island than the TCs have every right to want to live in that part of Cyprus which is not Greek...That spells Partition and that is why Piratis will go down in CF history as the BAsh-Partitionist...I think Piratis should have a statue erected right next to RR Denktash' statue in the trnc...See if you can pull some strings,MR...You are better connected in Cyprus than I am... :wink: :)


Unfortunately you keep the same mentality as your ancestors and you have as your main aim to de-Hellenize our island. People like me are an obstacle to your plans, otherwise we would all be YFreds, and there would be no Hellenism on this island by now. This is why you hate me.

There is no part of Cyprus that is not Greek, and this has already been the case from before any Turks came to Cyprus. If you don't like that you were born on a Greek island you have only your aggressive expansionist ancestors to blame, not the majority of the population of this island who are today what they have been for 1000s of years.

Your racist behavior is the crux of the problem. In Cyprus we have many other minorities, and many minorities exist in just about every other country. Those minorities don't have a problem to live in French, or Spanish, or Italian, or German territories because they are not French, Spanish, Italian or German themselves.

You saying that just because Cyprus is Greek that you can not tolerate this fact and that you therefore have to kill people and ehtnically cleanse many others in order to artificially create some "Turkish State" exposes your racism and criminal mentality.
User avatar
Piratis
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 12261
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:08 pm

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 12, 2010 8:40 pm

This island was never Greek and never will be.
User avatar
Viewpoint
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 25214
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Nicosia/Lefkosa

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed May 12, 2010 8:49 pm

Piratis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:It is funny how some losers who couldn't argue with me in the original thread started another thread to spread lies about me. These people hate me because I want the freedom of my island, human rights and democracy. When you are hated by such kind of scum you know that you are doing something right.

I do not hate anybody because of his race. If I hate somebody I hate him because of his views and/or actions.

If I was a racist and I hated all Turks and TCs then I should also hate Kikapu, who is a TC. But I don't. I love Kikapu and all the decent people who support the freedom of Cyprus and human and democratic rights for all Cypriots without racist discriminations.

The racists are those who are using excuses from half a century ago, trying to excuse human and democratic rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people today. The racists are those who want an Apartheid kind of solution that segregates Cypriots based on their ethnicity and gives different rights to people based on the religion and language they speak. The racists are those who still have the mentality of the Ottoman era, and want to impose on Cyprus in the 21st century the racist divisions that were imposed on us back then.



As I keep saying,your democracy and human right arguments might have some credibility IF you condemned the treatment of the TCs during 1963-74 by the RoC government and the GC community in general...But since you keep denying that there was any ill-treatment,or you justify it by saying it was self-inflicted,your words are just hollow and insincere..Your attitude to the TCs who have been born in Cyprus,and whose ancestors have been born in Cyprus for generations is evident in everyting you post..For you TCs are uninvited pests who have no right to be living or breathing in Cyprus unless they agree to forgo their identity and become "Cypriots" by which you mean Greek Cypriots,since you believe Cyprus is a Greek island and the only legitimate Cypriots are those of Greek descent...No amount of sugar coating by means of democratic or human rights arguments can disguise your distain of all TCs,except those who think exactly like you do on the Cyprus problem...You do not realise your attitude is racist and autoritarian to the point of being labeled fascistic...Your historical revisionism is breathtaking,and your selective presentation of the past events purely GC state propaganda...I wouldn't be surprised if in the end this Forum is exposed as initiated and sponsored by RoC deep state and/or RoC government public relations(read department of misinformation) office...


Everything you said about me is lies.

1) I many times condemned the treatment of TCs during 1963-74. But unlike you I don't see only a small selective part of history, I see the whole of it. So I also condemn the initiation of the conflict by the TCs in the 50s, the ill treatment of the TCs against the GCs between 1960 and 1974, and also the ethnic cleansing and all the other crimes and illegalities committed by TCs and Turkey from 1974 until today.

2) I have no problem for TCs to live in Cyprus as equal citizens and this is something I repeated so many times. Cyprus being a Greek island doesn't mean that everybody in it should be Greek. Every place has ethnic minorities and Cyprus doesn't need to be an exception. In fact I wouldn't want to live in a place that had people of just one ethnicity, it would be boring, and personally I have a lot of friends who are neither Greek or Cypriot. Your ethnic minority can have the 100% of the minority rights that other minorities have in all other countries. (unlike the Kurds in Turkey)

What I want is a free democratic Cyprus, where all citizens are equal without racist discriminations and other human and democratic violations.

I therefore reject the racist apartheid kind of systems you want to impose by force on Cyprus.


No, nothing said about you is a lie. Show us just one post of yours where you condemn the treatment of TC's. Sometime today please.


I have no problem to prove the lies that you and others are spreading.

I also condemn any criminal actions against innocent TCs, I condemn the actions of EOKA B and the actions of the cupists.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 211#477211

I do know about and fully recognize your suffering during that time.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 840#478840

Our side has clearly and officially condemned the coup and everything that resulted in the death or suffering of TCs

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 536#457536

Did I ever deny that TCs suffered or had casualties? Never.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 503#477503

These are just some examples. This is not the first time you attempt to spread such lies and the reason is obvious: You are looking for excuses not to have a free and democratic Cyprus were all citizens are equal because you want privileges and gains on our expense.



The first link above took me to a page back in 2009, April if I'm not mistaken, I looked for the post that had anything to do with the link but couldn't find it, I did however find many posts from you to Shahmaran that were more or less like this one;



Really you racist scumbag? Don't you claim that you live in a country called the "TRNC"? How did you get what you claim to be a "Turkish Republic" you son of the bitch? Isn't it by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of Cypriots who are anything but Turks, stealing their lands and importing Turkish Settlers? Without Ethnic Cleansing there is no "TRNC" you asshole.

What I support is democracy and equality of all citizens without racist discriminations. This is something racists like you never accepted.

You sided with the British Imperialists in order to defeat the Cypriot revolution, you attacked us, and then imposed on us a constitution that divided the citizens in a racist way so you can continue to have Ottoman style privileges on our expense.

When Makarios made proposals for democratic reforms that would remove some of those racist inequalities on the expense of the majority of the Cypriot people, you LEFT from the government and resumed your plan of annihilating the majority of Cypriots from half of their island.

So no mate, what happened before 74 is not the democracy and political equality I am talking about, because even then you refused to participate in such a democratic system and you choose conflict instead. Just like you are doing now.

Why are you wasting your time when everything is obvious. You are a racist and you hate me because I expose you for what you are.

As far as what this island is, I don't need any labels. Just let Cypriots be and live as they have always done for 1000s of years, and beyond that let any observer to decide what Cyprus is and what isn't. You can call it Mexican if you like. It will only show how uneducated you are, and it will change nothing about what Cyprus really is.

But of course racists like you do not like what Cyprus naturally is. You want to change what Cyprus is by ethnically cleansing people, destroying our cultural heritage, changing the names of our villages, and trying to falsify our history. Fucking criminal racis
ts!
MR-from-NG
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3440
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:58 pm

Postby Piratis » Wed May 12, 2010 9:02 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:It is funny how some losers who couldn't argue with me in the original thread started another thread to spread lies about me. These people hate me because I want the freedom of my island, human rights and democracy. When you are hated by such kind of scum you know that you are doing something right.

I do not hate anybody because of his race. If I hate somebody I hate him because of his views and/or actions.

If I was a racist and I hated all Turks and TCs then I should also hate Kikapu, who is a TC. But I don't. I love Kikapu and all the decent people who support the freedom of Cyprus and human and democratic rights for all Cypriots without racist discriminations.

The racists are those who are using excuses from half a century ago, trying to excuse human and democratic rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people today. The racists are those who want an Apartheid kind of solution that segregates Cypriots based on their ethnicity and gives different rights to people based on the religion and language they speak. The racists are those who still have the mentality of the Ottoman era, and want to impose on Cyprus in the 21st century the racist divisions that were imposed on us back then.



As I keep saying,your democracy and human right arguments might have some credibility IF you condemned the treatment of the TCs during 1963-74 by the RoC government and the GC community in general...But since you keep denying that there was any ill-treatment,or you justify it by saying it was self-inflicted,your words are just hollow and insincere..Your attitude to the TCs who have been born in Cyprus,and whose ancestors have been born in Cyprus for generations is evident in everyting you post..For you TCs are uninvited pests who have no right to be living or breathing in Cyprus unless they agree to forgo their identity and become "Cypriots" by which you mean Greek Cypriots,since you believe Cyprus is a Greek island and the only legitimate Cypriots are those of Greek descent...No amount of sugar coating by means of democratic or human rights arguments can disguise your distain of all TCs,except those who think exactly like you do on the Cyprus problem...You do not realise your attitude is racist and autoritarian to the point of being labeled fascistic...Your historical revisionism is breathtaking,and your selective presentation of the past events purely GC state propaganda...I wouldn't be surprised if in the end this Forum is exposed as initiated and sponsored by RoC deep state and/or RoC government public relations(read department of misinformation) office...


Everything you said about me is lies.

1) I many times condemned the treatment of TCs during 1963-74. But unlike you I don't see only a small selective part of history, I see the whole of it. So I also condemn the initiation of the conflict by the TCs in the 50s, the ill treatment of the TCs against the GCs between 1960 and 1974, and also the ethnic cleansing and all the other crimes and illegalities committed by TCs and Turkey from 1974 until today.

2) I have no problem for TCs to live in Cyprus as equal citizens and this is something I repeated so many times. Cyprus being a Greek island doesn't mean that everybody in it should be Greek. Every place has ethnic minorities and Cyprus doesn't need to be an exception. In fact I wouldn't want to live in a place that had people of just one ethnicity, it would be boring, and personally I have a lot of friends who are neither Greek or Cypriot. Your ethnic minority can have the 100% of the minority rights that other minorities have in all other countries. (unlike the Kurds in Turkey)

What I want is a free democratic Cyprus, where all citizens are equal without racist discriminations and other human and democratic violations.

I therefore reject the racist apartheid kind of systems you want to impose by force on Cyprus.


No, nothing said about you is a lie. Show us just one post of yours where you condemn the treatment of TC's. Sometime today please.


I have no problem to prove the lies that you and others are spreading.

I also condemn any criminal actions against innocent TCs, I condemn the actions of EOKA B and the actions of the cupists.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 211#477211

I do know about and fully recognize your suffering during that time.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 840#478840

Our side has clearly and officially condemned the coup and everything that resulted in the death or suffering of TCs

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 536#457536

Did I ever deny that TCs suffered or had casualties? Never.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 503#477503

These are just some examples. This is not the first time you attempt to spread such lies and the reason is obvious: You are looking for excuses not to have a free and democratic Cyprus were all citizens are equal because you want privileges and gains on our expense.



The first link above took me to a page back in 2009, April if I'm not mistaken, I looked for the post that had anything to do with the link but couldn't find it, I did however find many posts from you to Shahmaran that were more or less like this one;



Really you racist scumbag? Don't you claim that you live in a country called the "TRNC"? How did you get what you claim to be a "Turkish Republic" you son of the bitch? Isn't it by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of Cypriots who are anything but Turks, stealing their lands and importing Turkish Settlers? Without Ethnic Cleansing there is no "TRNC" you asshole.

What I support is democracy and equality of all citizens without racist discriminations. This is something racists like you never accepted.

You sided with the British Imperialists in order to defeat the Cypriot revolution, you attacked us, and then imposed on us a constitution that divided the citizens in a racist way so you can continue to have Ottoman style privileges on our expense.

When Makarios made proposals for democratic reforms that would remove some of those racist inequalities on the expense of the majority of the Cypriot people, you LEFT from the government and resumed your plan of annihilating the majority of Cypriots from half of their island.

So no mate, what happened before 74 is not the democracy and political equality I am talking about, because even then you refused to participate in such a democratic system and you choose conflict instead. Just like you are doing now.

Why are you wasting your time when everything is obvious. You are a racist and you hate me because I expose you for what you are.

As far as what this island is, I don't need any labels. Just let Cypriots be and live as they have always done for 1000s of years, and beyond that let any observer to decide what Cyprus is and what isn't. You can call it Mexican if you like. It will only show how uneducated you are, and it will change nothing about what Cyprus really is.

But of course racists like you do not like what Cyprus naturally is. You want to change what Cyprus is by ethnically cleansing people, destroying our cultural heritage, changing the names of our villages, and trying to falsify our history. Fucking criminal racis
ts!


You could not find the posts even when giving to you the quotes and the links to the pages where they are posted? You are more stupid than I initially thought! :lol:
User avatar
Piratis
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 12261
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:08 pm

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed May 12, 2010 9:55 pm

Piratis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:It is funny how some losers who couldn't argue with me in the original thread started another thread to spread lies about me. These people hate me because I want the freedom of my island, human rights and democracy. When you are hated by such kind of scum you know that you are doing something right.

I do not hate anybody because of his race. If I hate somebody I hate him because of his views and/or actions.

If I was a racist and I hated all Turks and TCs then I should also hate Kikapu, who is a TC. But I don't. I love Kikapu and all the decent people who support the freedom of Cyprus and human and democratic rights for all Cypriots without racist discriminations.

The racists are those who are using excuses from half a century ago, trying to excuse human and democratic rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people today. The racists are those who want an Apartheid kind of solution that segregates Cypriots based on their ethnicity and gives different rights to people based on the religion and language they speak. The racists are those who still have the mentality of the Ottoman era, and want to impose on Cyprus in the 21st century the racist divisions that were imposed on us back then.



As I keep saying,your democracy and human right arguments might have some credibility IF you condemned the treatment of the TCs during 1963-74 by the RoC government and the GC community in general...But since you keep denying that there was any ill-treatment,or you justify it by saying it was self-inflicted,your words are just hollow and insincere..Your attitude to the TCs who have been born in Cyprus,and whose ancestors have been born in Cyprus for generations is evident in everyting you post..For you TCs are uninvited pests who have no right to be living or breathing in Cyprus unless they agree to forgo their identity and become "Cypriots" by which you mean Greek Cypriots,since you believe Cyprus is a Greek island and the only legitimate Cypriots are those of Greek descent...No amount of sugar coating by means of democratic or human rights arguments can disguise your distain of all TCs,except those who think exactly like you do on the Cyprus problem...You do not realise your attitude is racist and autoritarian to the point of being labeled fascistic...Your historical revisionism is breathtaking,and your selective presentation of the past events purely GC state propaganda...I wouldn't be surprised if in the end this Forum is exposed as initiated and sponsored by RoC deep state and/or RoC government public relations(read department of misinformation) office...


Everything you said about me is lies.

1) I many times condemned the treatment of TCs during 1963-74. But unlike you I don't see only a small selective part of history, I see the whole of it. So I also condemn the initiation of the conflict by the TCs in the 50s, the ill treatment of the TCs against the GCs between 1960 and 1974, and also the ethnic cleansing and all the other crimes and illegalities committed by TCs and Turkey from 1974 until today.

2) I have no problem for TCs to live in Cyprus as equal citizens and this is something I repeated so many times. Cyprus being a Greek island doesn't mean that everybody in it should be Greek. Every place has ethnic minorities and Cyprus doesn't need to be an exception. In fact I wouldn't want to live in a place that had people of just one ethnicity, it would be boring, and personally I have a lot of friends who are neither Greek or Cypriot. Your ethnic minority can have the 100% of the minority rights that other minorities have in all other countries. (unlike the Kurds in Turkey)

What I want is a free democratic Cyprus, where all citizens are equal without racist discriminations and other human and democratic violations.

I therefore reject the racist apartheid kind of systems you want to impose by force on Cyprus.


No, nothing said about you is a lie. Show us just one post of yours where you condemn the treatment of TC's. Sometime today please.


I have no problem to prove the lies that you and others are spreading.

I also condemn any criminal actions against innocent TCs, I condemn the actions of EOKA B and the actions of the cupists.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 211#477211

I do know about and fully recognize your suffering during that time.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 840#478840

Our side has clearly and officially condemned the coup and everything that resulted in the death or suffering of TCs

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 536#457536

Did I ever deny that TCs suffered or had casualties? Never.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 503#477503

These are just some examples. This is not the first time you attempt to spread such lies and the reason is obvious: You are looking for excuses not to have a free and democratic Cyprus were all citizens are equal because you want privileges and gains on our expense.



The first link above took me to a page back in 2009, April if I'm not mistaken, I looked for the post that had anything to do with the link but couldn't find it, I did however find many posts from you to Shahmaran that were more or less like this one;



Really you racist scumbag? Don't you claim that you live in a country called the "TRNC"? How did you get what you claim to be a "Turkish Republic" you son of the bitch? Isn't it by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of Cypriots who are anything but Turks, stealing their lands and importing Turkish Settlers? Without Ethnic Cleansing there is no "TRNC" you asshole.

What I support is democracy and equality of all citizens without racist discriminations. This is something racists like you never accepted.

You sided with the British Imperialists in order to defeat the Cypriot revolution, you attacked us, and then imposed on us a constitution that divided the citizens in a racist way so you can continue to have Ottoman style privileges on our expense.

When Makarios made proposals for democratic reforms that would remove some of those racist inequalities on the expense of the majority of the Cypriot people, you LEFT from the government and resumed your plan of annihilating the majority of Cypriots from half of their island.

So no mate, what happened before 74 is not the democracy and political equality I am talking about, because even then you refused to participate in such a democratic system and you choose conflict instead. Just like you are doing now.

Why are you wasting your time when everything is obvious. You are a racist and you hate me because I expose you for what you are.

As far as what this island is, I don't need any labels. Just let Cypriots be and live as they have always done for 1000s of years, and beyond that let any observer to decide what Cyprus is and what isn't. You can call it Mexican if you like. It will only show how uneducated you are, and it will change nothing about what Cyprus really is.

But of course racists like you do not like what Cyprus naturally is. You want to change what Cyprus is by ethnically cleansing people, destroying our cultural heritage, changing the names of our villages, and trying to falsify our history. Fucking criminal racis
ts!


You could not find the posts even when giving to you the quotes and the links to the pages where they are posted? You are more stupid than I initially thought! :lol:


Yeah, OK Piratis, I'm stupid. I just had a glance and then thought whats the point, I bet Peter Sutcliffe told all 13 women that he loved them all just before killing them. So your sympathy, empathy mean jack shit. If you stood on the top of the mountain and seamed out at the top of your voice that all TC's are your brothers and you will die or kill for them, again, because you have been exposed for what you really are it would mean fuck all.
MR-from-NG
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3440
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:58 pm

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 12, 2010 10:30 pm

This is something Piratis will never understand.
User avatar
Viewpoint
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 25214
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Nicosia/Lefkosa

Postby Piratis » Wed May 12, 2010 10:43 pm

Yeah, OK Piratis, I'm stupid. I just had a glance and then thought whats the point, I bet Peter Sutcliffe told all 13 women that he loved them all just before killing them. So your sympathy, empathy mean jack shit. If you stood on the top of the mountain and seamed out at the top of your voice that all TC's are your brothers and you will die or kill for them, again, because you have been exposed for what you really are it would mean fuck all.


Thank you for admitting that what you want is not really any sympathy or empathy. But at least don't lie claiming that I never condemned the crimes against innocent TCs or that I do not recognize your suffering.

Now that the excuses that you initially gave for not liking me are proven as lies, lets get down to the real reason why you don't like me.

The real reason is that I destroy your propaganda and the lame excuses you give for demanding racist discriminations, segregation, and the human rights violations of 100s of thousands of innocent Cypriots.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that the conflict existed before 63, and that in fact it is the TCs who started it.

I destroy your propaganda showing that our demand for enosis in the 50s was 100% legitimate and you along with the British used brute force in order to deny our legitimate rights and force on us some agreements which benefited you on our expense.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that no TC was killed in 1974 before the day of the Turkish invasion and therefore the excuse that Turkey supposedly "invaded to save the poor TCs who were being killed" is a big fat lie.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that you had plans for the partition of Cyprus before the inter-communal conflict started and that in fact it is because of those plans that you initiated the conflict.

Nobody denied that TC suffered during the conflict, and that they had casualties. But it seems that you selectively choose to remember only your own suffering, and only a small selected part of history that suits you, in order to then come and make the argument that "GCs are the evils, TCs are the innocent victims, and therefore TCs deserve to have all those gains of land and power that they demand".

When I present the whole story, your lame argument is destroyed, and having no way to refute the facts and arguments I present, you resort to personal attacks and lies about me.
User avatar
Piratis
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 12261
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:08 pm

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed May 12, 2010 11:00 pm

Piratis wrote:
Yeah, OK Piratis, I'm stupid. I just had a glance and then thought whats the point, I bet Peter Sutcliffe told all 13 women that he loved them all just before killing them. So your sympathy, empathy mean jack shit. If you stood on the top of the mountain and seamed out at the top of your voice that all TC's are your brothers and you will die or kill for them, again, because you have been exposed for what you really are it would mean fuck all.


Thank you for admitting that what you want is not really any sympathy or empathy. But at least don't lie claiming that I never condemned the crimes against innocent TCs or that I do not recognize your suffering.

Now that the excuses that you initially gave for not liking me are proven as lies, lets get down to the real reason why you don't like me.

The real reason is that I destroy your propaganda and the lame excuses you give for demanding racist discriminations, segregation, and the human rights violations of 100s of thousands of innocent Cypriots.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that the conflict existed before 63, and that in fact it is the TCs who started it.

I destroy your propaganda showing that our demand for enosis in the 50s was 100% legitimate and you along with the British used brute force in order to deny our legitimate rights and force on us some agreements which benefited you on our expense.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that no TC was killed in 1974 before the day of the Turkish invasion and therefore the excuse that Turkey supposedly "invaded to save the poor TCs who were being killed" is a big fat lie.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that you had plans for the partition of Cyprus before the inter-communal conflict started and that in fact it is because of those plans that you initiated the conflict.

Nobody denied that TC suffered during the conflict, and that they had casualties. But it seems that you selectively choose to remember only your own suffering, and only a small selected part of history that suits you, in order to then come and make the argument that "GCs are the evils, TCs are the innocent victims, and therefore TCs deserve to have all those gains of land and power that they demand".

When I present the whole story, your lame argument is destroyed, and having no way to refute the facts and arguments I present, you resort to personal attacks and lies about me.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK mate, if thats what your history books have taught you then with that there is nothing I can do. Proof of the pudding is in the eating, if all the above were legitimate claims then why have the international community let Turkey FUCK you good and proper? And I mean FUCK you to kingdom come. I'll tell you why., because they like us thought, you dirty lying scheming fucking Greeks, you had it all, you treated these poor fucking Turks like dirt, you treated them like shit, second class citizens, but it wasn't enough, no, you had to destroy them, you had to wipe them off the face of the earth. Well now take that and see how you like it.

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD IS LOOKING AT THE CYPRUS ISSUE.
MR-from-NG
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3440
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:58 pm

Postby Piratis » Wed May 12, 2010 11:20 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Yeah, OK Piratis, I'm stupid. I just had a glance and then thought whats the point, I bet Peter Sutcliffe told all 13 women that he loved them all just before killing them. So your sympathy, empathy mean jack shit. If you stood on the top of the mountain and seamed out at the top of your voice that all TC's are your brothers and you will die or kill for them, again, because you have been exposed for what you really are it would mean fuck all.


Thank you for admitting that what you want is not really any sympathy or empathy. But at least don't lie claiming that I never condemned the crimes against innocent TCs or that I do not recognize your suffering.

Now that the excuses that you initially gave for not liking me are proven as lies, lets get down to the real reason why you don't like me.

The real reason is that I destroy your propaganda and the lame excuses you give for demanding racist discriminations, segregation, and the human rights violations of 100s of thousands of innocent Cypriots.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that the conflict existed before 63, and that in fact it is the TCs who started it.

I destroy your propaganda showing that our demand for enosis in the 50s was 100% legitimate and you along with the British used brute force in order to deny our legitimate rights and force on us some agreements which benefited you on our expense.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that no TC was killed in 1974 before the day of the Turkish invasion and therefore the excuse that Turkey supposedly "invaded to save the poor TCs who were being killed" is a big fat lie.

I destroy your propaganda by showing that you had plans for the partition of Cyprus before the inter-communal conflict started and that in fact it is because of those plans that you initiated the conflict.

Nobody denied that TC suffered during the conflict, and that they had casualties. But it seems that you selectively choose to remember only your own suffering, and only a small selected part of history that suits you, in order to then come and make the argument that "GCs are the evils, TCs are the innocent victims, and therefore TCs deserve to have all those gains of land and power that they demand".

When I present the whole story, your lame argument is destroyed, and having no way to refute the facts and arguments I present, you resort to personal attacks and lies about me.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK mate, if thats what your history books have taught you then with that there is nothing I can do. Proof of the pudding is in the eating, if all the above were legitimate claims then why have the international community let Turkey FUCK you good and proper? And I mean FUCK you to kingdom come. I'll tell you why., because they like us thought, you dirty lying scheming fucking Greeks, you had it all, you treated these poor fucking Turks like dirt, you treated them like shit, second class citizens, but it wasn't enough, no, you had to destroy them, you had to wipe them off the face of the earth. Well now take that and see how you like it.

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD IS LOOKING AT THE CYPRUS ISSUE.


The international community had also let Hitler to invade and occupy Czechoslovakia, when Hitler used the same lame excuses as Turkey did to invade Cyprus. (to supposedly "protect" their minority)

Just because the international community did not intervene militarily against Turkey this doesn't mean they approved your invasion and your crimes, quite the contrary.

When was it exactly that we tried to wipe out the TCs? In the war that Turkey stated and where 1000s of GCs died as opposed to some 100s of TCs? No TC died in 1974 before the Turkish invasion and you just continue to repeat the same big fat lies of the Turkish propaganda which you are of course unable to prove.

RESOLUTION 353 (1974)

Adopted by the Security Council at its 1771st meeting,
on 20 July 1974



The Security Council,

Having considered the report of the Secretary-General, at its 1779th meeting, about the recent developments in Cyprus,

Having heard the statement of the President of the Republic of Cyprus and the statements of the representatives of Cyprus, Turkey, Greece and other Member States,

Noting also from the report the conditions prevailing in the island,

Deeply deploring the outbreak of violence and the continuing bloodshed,

Gravely concerned about the situation which has led to a serious threat to international peace and security, and which has created a most explosive situation in the whole Eastern Mediterranean area,

Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements,

Conscious of its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security in accordance with Article 24 of the Charter of the United Nations,

1.Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.

2.Calls upon all parties to the present fighting as a first step to cease all firing and requests all States to exercise the utmost restraint and to refrain from any action which might further aggravate the situation;

3.Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;

4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;

5. Calls upon Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to enter into negotiations without delay for the restoration of peace in the area and constitutional government of Cyprus and to keep the Secretary-General informed;

6. Calls upon all parties to co-operate fully with the United Nations Peace-keeping Force in Cyprus to enable it to carry out its mandate;

7. Decides to keep the situation under constant review and asks the Secretary-General to report as appropriate with a view to adopting further measures in order to ensure that peaceful conditions are restored as soon as possible.

Adopted unanimously at the 1781st meeting.
User avatar
Piratis
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 12261
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:08 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests