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Turkey: Stop hiding behind the Turkish Cypriots!

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Postby Murataga » Wed May 12, 2010 6:04 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:GR! was insulted by BirKibrisli first!

Why do the prudes have such poor concentration spans? :roll:


That is not true...I never insult anyone unless they insult me first...And those I insult are very worthy of it...look carefully,and you will see I am right,Oracle..


I concur :wink:
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Postby aussieturk » Wed May 12, 2010 6:23 am

Oracle wrote:This problem is not about the desires of two different cultures or two different ethnicities. It's about two different ideologies. Turkey wants to expand into foreign territory, and the RoC wants to hold on to its rightful sovereignty. The TCs are just the tools Turkey has used to make their illegal, immoral ideology possible. The TCs are Turkey's smokescreen for Expansionism! How willingly they wish to be accomplices is a measure of their treachery.


How many foreign territories has Turkey expanded into since 1975?
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Postby Murataga » Wed May 12, 2010 6:39 am

aussieturk wrote:
Oracle wrote:This problem is not about the desires of two different cultures or two different ethnicities. It's about two different ideologies. Turkey wants to expand into foreign territory, and the RoC wants to hold on to its rightful sovereignty. The TCs are just the tools Turkey has used to make their illegal, immoral ideology possible. The TCs are Turkey's smokescreen for Expansionism! How willingly they wish to be accomplices is a measure of their treachery.


How many foreign territories has Turkey expanded into since 1975?


How many foreign territories has Turkey expanded into since 1939 (Hatay)?

Make no mistake: the presence of the Turkish troops in Cyprus is NOT territorial expansion!
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Postby aussieturk » Wed May 12, 2010 6:44 am

Murataga wrote:
aussieturk wrote:
Oracle wrote:This problem is not about the desires of two different cultures or two different ethnicities. It's about two different ideologies. Turkey wants to expand into foreign territory, and the RoC wants to hold on to its rightful sovereignty. The TCs are just the tools Turkey has used to make their illegal, immoral ideology possible. The TCs are Turkey's smokescreen for Expansionism! How willingly they wish to be accomplices is a measure of their treachery.


How many foreign territories has Turkey expanded into since 1975?


How many foreign territories has Turkey expanded into since 1939 (Hatay)?

Make no mistake: the presence of the Turkish troops in Cyprus is NOT territorial expansion!


True
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Postby Gasman » Wed May 12, 2010 6:51 am

Turkish expansionism? Is this put forward as the 'real' reason for their presence in Cyprus?

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Postby Acikgoz » Wed May 12, 2010 8:27 am

Makes for better soundbites when hounding Turkey to pressure TCs and appease GCs.

How many GCs have posted comments on Armenia's expansionism in its war with Azerbaijan? None! Whereas other aspects of Armenia are oft brought up here. Dependent on who the players are on the geo-political platform vis-a-vis the Cyprus Problem apparently justify double standards to permeate arguments and energies rather than consistent views.

Get Real, I am embarassed for GCs that have a representative of their community that is so racist and vulgar. Most, if called on such behaviour, would apologise for the offense as in the cold light of day one has a moment to reflect and consider - in your mind flipping the finger was the most apt response.....
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Postby Oracle » Wed May 12, 2010 9:03 am

Murataga wrote:
aussieturk wrote:
Oracle wrote:This problem is not about the desires of two different cultures or two different ethnicities. It's about two different ideologies. Turkey wants to expand into foreign territory, and the RoC wants to hold on to its rightful sovereignty. The TCs are just the tools Turkey has used to make their illegal, immoral ideology possible. The TCs are Turkey's smokescreen for Expansionism! How willingly they wish to be accomplices is a measure of their treachery.


How many foreign territories has Turkey expanded into since 1975?


How many foreign territories has Turkey expanded into since 1939 (Hatay)?

Make no mistake: the presence of the Turkish troops in Cyprus is NOT territorial expansion!


"NOT" territorial expansion? Have those 43,000 Turkish troops and 300,000 Settlers always been here then?

We're looking at two expansions in a time span of less than 40 years and you don't call that Expansionism? And we're talking modern times! Seems to be coming up to that time when Turkey could be throwing a third one into the pot!

Anybody know how this achievement ranks against other Expansionists?
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Postby Acikgoz » Wed May 12, 2010 9:10 am

Where do you get your numbers? Just plucked from your evil mind or the RoC deep state propaganda machine.

Note how Turkey was all behind sole government for all of in Cyprus with the Annan plan refendum to which TCs voted yes. If expansion was the goal then that would have ended in 2004. Throw more mud, see if any other suckers will believe in your perpetuate hate philosophy.

Any other ridiculous arguments with false facts, c'mon I know you can't help yourself.
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Postby Oracle » Wed May 12, 2010 9:45 am

Acikgoz wrote:Where do you get your numbers? Just plucked from your evil mind or the RoC deep state propaganda machine.

Note how Turkey was all behind sole government for all of in Cyprus with the Annan plan refendum to which TCs voted yes. If expansion was the goal then that would have ended in 2004. Throw more mud, see if any other suckers will believe in your perpetuate hate philosophy.

Any other ridiculous arguments with false facts, c'mon I know you can't help yourself.


Where do I get my numbers?

Here!

BirKibrisli wrote:I hope you are right,Pyro...but my insider information is that the settlers are at least 300,000...Halil has talked about 500-600 thousand settlers,and the journalists on Afrika are talking about 900,000..


Is this not Expansionism?
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Postby Acikgoz » Wed May 12, 2010 11:25 am

Am I to assume that you are not using Bir and Halil's comments as justifications for your argument? If so why have you never believed anything they have said before?
Am I to assume you believe somewhere the quote is valid given your belief in their duties and responsibilities?

Am I to assume you have no valid evidence for your claims?

Find some reliable sources. If you wish for my help on this please feel free to ask. Chances are you'd rather hurl an insult than to uncover some truth that is contrary to your mis-guided beliefs. Symptoms of a psychopath.
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