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[Jerry]

I am not sure whether I should laugh or cry,Jerry...
I really hope the day never comes when some individual as deluded as our GR and Paphidis takes over the reigns of power in the RoC...It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...It seems that some people on this Forum have a greater share of these traits than others...

Was it not Turkey that has always said that the Cyprus Problem was solved militarily in 1974? So why can't the RoC execute it's sovereign right to self defense?

The ROC is partly illegally occupied by Turkey but it is not under attack, hostilities, in the main, ceased 35 years ago. If the ROC instigate renewed hostilities it will be seen as the aggressor and once again the TCs will be seen as the victims of the GCs. Turkey takes no notice of what others, including the EU, think, to date it won't even open its ports to the ROC. In a war of attrition against Turkey there would only be one outcome, widespread death and destruction on the island and complete Turkish domination.

[Paphitis]

I am not sure whether I should laugh or cry,Jerry...
I really hope the day never comes when some individual as deluded as our GR and Paphidis takes over the reigns of power in the RoC...It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...It seems that some people on this Forum have a greater share of these traits than others...

Was it not Turkey that has always said that the Cyprus Problem was solved militarily in 1974? So why can't the RoC execute it's sovereign right to self defense?

The ROC is partly illegally occupied by Turkey but it is not under attack, hostilities, in the main, ceased 35 years ago. If the ROC instigate renewed hostilities it will be seen as the aggressor and once again the TCs will be seen as the victims of the GCs. Turkey takes no notice of what others, including the EU, think, to date it won't even open its ports to the ROC. In a war of attrition against Turkey there would only be one outcome, widespread death and destruction on the island and complete Turkish domination.

No Jerry! If China invades Australia and then a cease fire is agreed after China manages to control and occupy 37%, then even after 36 years, if the ADF decide to violate that cease fire in an effort to liberate occupied Australia, it is still China that is the aggressor because it is China that occupies Australia and the ADF has recommenced hostilities to liberate occupied Australia and defend the nations sovereignty which is under threat.

The mere fact that Cyprus is still under occupation is an attack on RoC sovereignty, and any effort to liberate is not an act of aggression but an act of defense. It is the RoC's sovereign right to defend its sovereignty.

[BirKibrisli]

It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...

That’s strange… I could’ve sworn that every 20th of July, the “Turkish Cypriots” (read Turkish cunts) celebrate (military parade included) a “military solution” to their “problems”, but you seem to frown on the idea of the other side having a crack at it…

Maybe you'd like the bloodshed to stop while you’re ahead eh?

You have a very selective memory,GR (read Cheekyrotian Prick)...
Before the 20th of July,1974 a certain NG tried a little military coup to solve their little Enosis problem...That was what brought the TA to Cyprus...I'd like the bloodshed to stop because another attempt by the CNG for a "military solution" will make the last one look like the Butchers picnic...And nobody is ahead in Cyprus...We are all behind...Some are more behind than others...

[Paphitis]

It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...

That’s strange… I could’ve sworn that every 20th of July, the “Turkish Cypriots” (read Turkish cunts) celebrate (military parade included) a “military solution” to their “problems”, but you seem to frown on the idea of the other side having a crack at it…

Maybe you'd like the bloodshed to stop while you’re ahead eh?

You have a very selective memory,GR (read Cheekyrotian Prick)...
Before the 20th of July,1974 a certain NG tried a little military coup to solve their little Enosis problem...That was what brought the TA to Cyprus...I'd like the bloodshed to stop because another attempt by the CNG for a "military solution" will make the last one look like the Butchers picnic...And nobody is ahead in Cyprus...We are all behind...Some are more behind than others...

Where were the TCs when the GCs were resisting the Greek Junta?

[BirKibrisli]

I am not sure whether I should laugh or cry,Jerry...
I really hope the day never comes when some individual as deluded as our GR and Paphidis takes over the reigns of power in the RoC...It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...It seems that some people on this Forum have a greater share of these traits than others...

Was it not Turkey that has always said that the Cyprus Problem was solved militarily in 1974? So why can't the RoC execute it's sovereign right to self defense?

The ROC is partly illegally occupied by Turkey but it is not under attack, hostilities, in the main, ceased 35 years ago. If the ROC instigate renewed hostilities it will be seen as the aggressor and once again the TCs will be seen as the victims of the GCs. Turkey takes no notice of what others, including the EU, think, to date it won't even open its ports to the ROC. In a war of attrition against Turkey there would only be one outcome, widespread death and destruction on the island and complete Turkish domination.

No Jerry! If China invades Australia and then a cease fire is agreed after China manages to control and occupy 37%, then even after 36 years, if the ADF decide to violate that cease fire in an effort to liberate occupied Australia, it is still China that is the aggressor because it is China that occupies Australia and the ADF has recommenced hostilities to liberate occupied Australia and defend the nations sovereignty which is under threat.

The mere fact that Cyprus is still under occupation is an attack on RoC sovereignty, and any effort to liberate is not an act of aggression but an act of defense. It is the RoC's sovereign right to defend its sovereignty.

Go ahead,exercise your right to defend your ill-gotten sovereignty,you stupid idoit,and see where that will get you and your sovereignty...

[BirKibrisli]

It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...

That’s strange… I could’ve sworn that every 20th of July, the “Turkish Cypriots” (read Turkish cunts) celebrate (military parade included) a “military solution” to their “problems”, but you seem to frown on the idea of the other side having a crack at it…

Maybe you'd like the bloodshed to stop while you’re ahead eh?

You have a very selective memory,GR (read Cheekyrotian Prick)...
Before the 20th of July,1974 a certain NG tried a little military coup to solve their little Enosis problem...That was what brought the TA to Cyprus...I'd like the bloodshed to stop because another attempt by the CNG for a "military solution" will make the last one look like the Butchers picnic...And nobody is ahead in Cyprus...We are all behind...Some are more behind than others...

Where were the TCs when the GCs were resisting the Greek Junta?

Where do you think??? In their little enclaves,behind barricades waiting for the coupists to finish off the Makarios supporters before turning on them,you pea-brained twit...

[Paphitis]

It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...

That’s strange… I could’ve sworn that every 20th of July, the “Turkish Cypriots” (read Turkish cunts) celebrate (military parade included) a “military solution” to their “problems”, but you seem to frown on the idea of the other side having a crack at it…

Maybe you'd like the bloodshed to stop while you’re ahead eh?

You have a very selective memory,GR (read Cheekyrotian Prick)...
Before the 20th of July,1974 a certain NG tried a little military coup to solve their little Enosis problem...That was what brought the TA to Cyprus...I'd like the bloodshed to stop because another attempt by the CNG for a "military solution" will make the last one look like the Butchers picnic...And nobody is ahead in Cyprus...We are all behind...Some are more behind than others...

Where were the TCs when the GCs were resisting the Greek Junta?

Where do you think??? In their little enclaves,behind barricades waiting for the coupists to finish off the Makarios supporters before turning on them,you pea-brained twit...

Really? If the coupist had any intention to finish you off, then would have attempted to do so in the 5 days before the Turkish Troops landed on Cyprus. They didn't even blow smoke in your direction!

[Jerry]

I am not sure whether I should laugh or cry,Jerry...
I really hope the day never comes when some individual as deluded as our GR and Paphidis takes over the reigns of power in the RoC...It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...It seems that some people on this Forum have a greater share of these traits than others...

Was it not Turkey that has always said that the Cyprus Problem was solved militarily in 1974? So why can't the RoC execute it's sovereign right to self defense?

The ROC is partly illegally occupied by Turkey but it is not under attack, hostilities, in the main, ceased 35 years ago. If the ROC instigate renewed hostilities it will be seen as the aggressor and once again the TCs will be seen as the victims of the GCs. Turkey takes no notice of what others, including the EU, think, to date it won't even open its ports to the ROC. In a war of attrition against Turkey there would only be one outcome, widespread death and destruction on the island and complete Turkish domination.

No Jerry! If China invades Australia and then a cease fire is agreed after China manages to control and occupy 37%, then even after 36 years, if the ADF decide to violate that cease fire in an effort to liberate occupied Australia, it is still China that is the aggressor because it is China that occupies Australia and the ADF has recommenced hostilities to liberate occupied Australia and defend the nations sovereignty which is under threat.

The mere fact that Cyprus is still under occupation is an attack on RoC sovereignty, and any effort to liberate is not an act of aggression but an act of defense. It is the RoC's sovereign right to defend its sovereignty.

Not a very good analogy Paphitis, the Turkish Cypriots do have rights in Cyprus even if the 37% they occupy is not legally theirs, I don't think the Chinese inhabitants of Australian were ever granted such rights. A military "defence" of the north would involve "defence" against the TCs. The EU and the UN would take a pretty dim view of such action.
Don't get me wrong, I hate what Turkey and Turkish fascists have done to Cyprus but the consequences and risks involved in renewed hostilities are just not worth it.

[YFred]

It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...

That’s strange… I could’ve sworn that every 20th of July, the “Turkish Cypriots” (read Turkish cunts) celebrate (military parade included) a “military solution” to their “problems”, but you seem to frown on the idea of the other side having a crack at it…

Maybe you'd like the bloodshed to stop while you’re ahead eh?

You have a very selective memory,GR (read Cheekyrotian Prick)...
Before the 20th of July,1974 a certain NG tried a little military coup to solve their little Enosis problem...That was what brought the TA to Cyprus...I'd like the bloodshed to stop because another attempt by the CNG for a "military solution" will make the last one look like the Butchers picnic...And nobody is ahead in Cyprus...We are all behind...Some are more behind than others...

Where were the TCs when the GCs were resisting the Greek Junta?

Where do you think??? In their little enclaves,behind barricades waiting for the coupists to finish off the Makarios supporters before turning on them,you pea-brained twit...

Really? If the coupist had any intention to finish you off, then would have attempted to do so in the 5 days before the Turkish Troops landed on Cyprus. They didn't even blow smoke in your direction!

Yeap, becasue they had tens of thousands of GCs to kill first. Then the real bloodbath would have started.
Not that different to what Serbs did in Bosnia.

[Paphitis]

I am not sure whether I should laugh or cry,Jerry...
I really hope the day never comes when some individual as deluded as our GR and Paphidis takes over the reigns of power in the RoC...It is a worry though,that grown up,socially functioning,apparently intelligent people can believe in a "military solution" after our bloody history...Maybe it is true that modern humans have retained a lot of the traits of their Neanderthal ancestors...It seems that some people on this Forum have a greater share of these traits than others...

Was it not Turkey that has always said that the Cyprus Problem was solved militarily in 1974? So why can't the RoC execute it's sovereign right to self defense?

The ROC is partly illegally occupied by Turkey but it is not under attack, hostilities, in the main, ceased 35 years ago. If the ROC instigate renewed hostilities it will be seen as the aggressor and once again the TCs will be seen as the victims of the GCs. Turkey takes no notice of what others, including the EU, think, to date it won't even open its ports to the ROC. In a war of attrition against Turkey there would only be one outcome, widespread death and destruction on the island and complete Turkish domination.

No Jerry! If China invades Australia and then a cease fire is agreed after China manages to control and occupy 37%, then even after 36 years, if the ADF decide to violate that cease fire in an effort to liberate occupied Australia, it is still China that is the aggressor because it is China that occupies Australia and the ADF has recommenced hostilities to liberate occupied Australia and defend the nations sovereignty which is under threat.

The mere fact that Cyprus is still under occupation is an attack on RoC sovereignty, and any effort to liberate is not an act of aggression but an act of defense. It is the RoC's sovereign right to defend its sovereignty.

Not a very good analogy Paphitis, the Turkish Cypriots do have rights in Cyprus even if the 37% they occupy is not legally theirs, I don't think the Chinese inhabitants of Australian were ever granted such rights. A military "defence" of the north would involve "defence" against the TCs. The EU and the UN would take a pretty dim view of such action.
Don't get me wrong, I hate what Turkey and Turkish fascists have done to Cyprus but the consequences and risks involved in renewed hostilities are just not worth it.

There you have it Jerry.

The Cyprus Problem in a nutshell.

No, the Chinese minority do not have any additional rights over all other Australian citizens. Everyone is equal in the eyes of the Commonwealth.

But some TCs seem to think that they can hold 37% of Cyprus to ransom so that they can achieve additional rights to the detriment to all other RoC citizens. Now you tell me. What kind of a nation will the RoC become? Will you be happy to raise a family in such a country? I wouldn't, but that's just me!

I am certain the RoC will never deny the TCs EQUAL citizenship rights. In fact, the RoC already does offer the TCs these rights. And yes, the TCs should have these rights and I personally would be willing to defend their rights.