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Postby apc2010 » Thu May 20, 2010 12:48 am

6 posts away.............
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 20, 2010 12:50 am

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apc2010 wrote:It is not rocket science from your posts ........


My posts are written by me. I post at various points, 24 hours of the day. Where am I now? :D

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Postby Oracle » Thu May 20, 2010 12:51 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:It is not rocket science from your posts ........


My posts are written by me. I post at various points, 24 hours of the day. Where am I now? :D

I suspect right next to your computer! Image


It's remote controlled! 8)
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Postby apc2010 » Thu May 20, 2010 12:52 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:It is not rocket science from your posts ........


My posts are written by me. I post at various points, 24 hours of the day. Where am I now? :D

I suspect right next to your computer! Image


It's remote controlled! 8)

from the kitchen >>>>>>>>>>>
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 20, 2010 12:55 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:It is not rocket science from your posts ........


My posts are written by me. I post at various points, 24 hours of the day. Where am I now? :D

I suspect right next to your computer! Image


It's remote controlled! 8)

Then you must be right next to your RC…
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Postby Paphitis » Thu May 20, 2010 5:05 am

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Paphitis wrote:Kikapu,

do you have on time performance scores for Southwest Airlines?

The industry norm in Australia is in the high nineties. The highest recorded on time performance was 98.7%. Slightly higher than QANTAS which is about 95-96%.


No, but I'll check to see if there is one available.

Just for the record, I don't think any of the US carriers have such good numbers. But lately, most airlines have been cheating, I think. They add extra 15 minutes to their flight time unnecessarily, so when they land 15 minutes early, if all goes well, then they start bragging how much on time they are. Same when they actually do land on scheduled times. It's a win- win for the airlines to get their bragging rights for their "on time" performances!


The 98.7% figure was for the QANTAS domestic mainline B717-200 fleet, which is contracted to QANTAS Link and it was for the month of March. It was a new record.

The B717-200 fleet is under contract to QANTAS by a British Defence Company which lease 11 B717-200 aircraft with crew for domestic routes. The same company also has lucrative Defence Contracts with Australia's Department of Defence, Department of Immigration, and Customs. The company actually specialises in Avionics, Airborne Refuelling, Surveillance, is involved in the F-22 and F-35, and also has a presence in Cyprus (SBA SAR), the UK (FRA Aviation), Germany, Italy, US, Canada and France. It is a very prestigious and innovative Aerospace and Defence company. It also has a Business Charter Wing in Australia and has the Coastwatch Surveillance Contract.

The B717-200 exceeded QANTAS mainline on time performance which caused quite a stir. There is little cheating going on, because QANTAS evaluate performance based on this (on time performance) criteria (B717 Fleet), as there are penalties for not being on time and this is written in the contract and monitored by QANTAS. Usually, a 2 minute window is allowed for, which means that if an aircraft departs 2 minutes late it is considered to be on time. Anything beyond that attracts financial penalties to the contract company.

But I am certain there must be some 'cheating' going on with QANTAS domestic and International mainline. :wink:

I thought the on time figures for Southwest would be lower. 30 minute turnarounds are a bit harsh Kikapu. But it saves Airbridge time which costs money.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu May 20, 2010 5:24 am

larnacaman wrote:Paphitis,
Agree with almost everything you have said here, especially on CyAir , It needs just such a shake-up if it is to survive the ''Real World''!!! All that ''dead wood'' will eventually bring it to it's knees, whether it merges with Eurocypria or not!!!

As for exploring new destination markets, Number one on there list should be Hong Kong, and a close second Beijing/Shanghai. But these flights must be able to link up with ongoing Flights to Europe and UK.... The new enormous market in China is just wide open right now for the smaller carriers to get a foothold, leave it too long and the door of opportunity will close...

Not so sure if forward ticket booking is as cost saving as it used to be, personally i think those days have almost gone. I tend to get much better prices when i start looking maybe just 3 weeks or less before i intend to travel. It may still hold for flights originating in Cyprus as it's almost a captive market, but not so much when were talking about flights originating out of Europe or UK and elsewhere....


Merging with EuroCypria could be a liability. Many services will be shared, which means that many positions will be redundant, but I doubt whether the unions will allow the company to make staff redundant. Basically, CyAir is being run into the ground.

Code Share agreements with other airlines will increase load factors as well as intermediate stopovers for long haul to New York, Melbourne, Sydney etc. All this stuff can occur if the airline purges itself as I explained in my earlier post..... I doubt it will ever happen!

Beijing is another destination to look at, as well as Sydney perhaps.
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Postby PushDaddy » Thu May 20, 2010 6:05 pm

We have to add on the cost of the transfer to TRNC as well so you guys in the ROC have it cheaper !
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Postby larnacaman » Thu May 20, 2010 9:53 pm

Paphitis,

If that's what it takes, then that's what needs to be done, if Cyprus is to retain it's national carrier!!! When unions hold companies to ransom to retain arcahic benefits that are themselves killing the company, then they must be taken on and defeated. As you said, it may be battle, but it's a battle they HAVE to Win.

Personally I'm in favour of a union workforce, it can, if administered and operated correctly, be beneficial to the company, management, and workers... What isn't acceptable is when company managements are afraid to make company policy/operating decisions for fear of militant union reactions. Which is unfortunately, is what so often happens here in Cyprus.... Weak Government is a major cause of these over powerful unions. I can't remember the last time they have stood firm themselves against crazy union demands, they have always capitulated. Bloody crazy state of affairs!!!!
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Postby SKI-preo » Fri May 21, 2010 3:51 am

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I am against them exploring the world.What a waste of CO2! Get a job you bums! backpackers should eat out of dumpsters in their home country until they can afford a 5 Euro capuccino and 1st class Cyprus Airways flights. What contribution can dumpster diving backpackers make besides eating the apparently huge amount of rubbish Cypriots create?Maybe Cyprus should ship its dumpsters around the world so the backpackers can stay home and Dumpster dine Cyprus style. Cyprus will no longer be the EU's 2nd largest per capita producer of rubbish.. If Mohamed cannot afford a Cyprus airways ticket to a Dumpster then the dumpster can go to Mohamed. My experiences of living next door to poor scum made me a miserable bastard but perhaps exporting 2nd hand food may prove a more lucrative industry as opposed to lower end tourism

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What was the problem, did they get to the dumpster before you could?


CBBB sorry for the delay in responding.

My parents have a shop next door to an unlicenced backpacker hostel.When I was a kid we used to lived in unit upstairs. Backpacker scum would raid dumpsters of mini markets, the bakery, fruit shops and restaurants. I cannot understand someone paying $2,500 to travel to Australia from Europe to eat out of dumpsters. They would also go to charities feeding the homeless and street kids for food. DO YOU WANT THIS SCUM VISITING CYPRUS?.

The fact that fares are a little more expensive to go to Cyprus is its only salvation. When it comes to tourism it is all about quality not sheer volume.

Also some resourceful backpacker girls sell sex all the way up and down the east coast to fund the travel.
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