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[Cap]

Georgios is a GC.

You would say my fellow TCs as a figure of speech, and the comparison GR gave is irrelevent, the bottom line is, it may compare to a bike, but you cannot harvest a field with a bike.

Thats the point Georgios was making.

The TCs think they can survive with what they have 'won' as george put it, but in actual fact, they can't.

Good post George.

I agree.
The NC's would be better off in a unified Cyprus.
I dunno why Lady O and some members have taken a disliking to Georgios.
He seems pretty genuine to me.

[repulsewarrior]

...it is telling, the "Turk" accusation, from, "my fellow TC", it shows a "Greekness" rather than a willful recognition that this island is it's People.

...whatever the distinction among the population, it should not matter. "Turks Out of Cyprus", is not exclusive to those living in the south, very little is done by the same "Greeks" to nurture the same sentiment which brews among Cypriots who live under the same subjugation in the north.

...something worth thinking about.

[georgios100]

...good post mr. G, food for thought.

ironically, the north of Cyprus is the most fruitful, agriculturally, and it was the powerhouse of our economy with what industry and manufacturing that was there.

...i like Cuba too, it is a very socialised country, with better education and medical care than almost all countries in the world.

Cuba is one of my favorite destinations, only 3.5 hours flight time from Toronto, a popular spot for the snowbirds, who seek refuge during the cold months of the Canadian winter.

Cuba, unfortunately, is under Fidel's boot. Castro's 45 year rule is unacceptable. This country can do so much better without him.

The people of Cuba are friendly and hospitable, but not happy. One can learn this from having "private discussions" with ordinary Cubans, away from public exposure. They are still afraid of the consequences of speaking out loud against the regime...

[Oracle]

...good post mr. G, food for thought.

ironically, the north of Cyprus is the most fruitful, agriculturally, and it was the powerhouse of our economy with what industry and manufacturing that was there.

...i like Cuba too, it is a very socialised country, with better education and medical care than almost all countries in the world.

Cuba is one of my favorite destinations, only 3.5 hours flight time from Toronto, a popular spot for the snowbirds, who seek refuge during the cold months of the Canadian winter.

Cuba, unfortunately, is under Fidel's boot. Castro's 45 year rule is unacceptable. This country can do so much better without him.

The people of Cuba are friendly and hospitable, but not happy. One can learn this from having "private discussions" with ordinary Cubans, away from public exposure. They are still afraid of the consequences of speaking out loud against the regime...

So why make a comparison between a genuine sovereign country, Cuba, with a region of illegitimate occupation referred to as "trnc"?

[Oracle]

Georgios is a GC.

You would say my fellow TCs as a figure of speech, and the comparison GR gave is irrelevent, the bottom line is, it may compare to a bike, but you cannot harvest a field with a bike.

Thats the point Georgios was making.

The TCs think they can survive with what they have 'won' as george put it, but in actual fact, they can't.

Good post George.

I agree.
The NC's would be better off in a unified Cyprus.
I dunno why Lady O and some members have taken a disliking to Georgios.
He seems pretty genuine to me.

Because he fools people like you.

Like TRNC, Cuba is under embargo for over 45 years.

... unless of course you agree with him?

[Paphitis]

I honestly believe that even the TCs would never compare the "trnc" with Castro's Cuba. It is almost an insult to be compared to Castro's Cuba, even for the "trnc". It would be desperate to do so, but I guess that after 36 years, many TCs are indeed desperate!

[PushDaddy]

Wots the point in this ?

TRNC and Cuba. So what do you hope to quantify, clarify or prove?

Lets compare TRNC and the the Isle Of Man.

Another pointless topic.

[Gasman]

Look - if Orifice says he is a TURK - he must be a TURK! She is never wrong. After all she said I was a bloke for about a year (until I put her right). She made a lot of other totally wrong assumptions about me too. I suppose she thinks if she keeps repeating them - everyone will believe her.

Don't destroy her fantasy world.

[Paphitis]

Look - if Orifice says he is a TURK - he must be a TURK! She is never wrong. After all she said I was a bloke for about a year (until I put her right). She made a lot of other totally wrong assumptions about me too. I suppose she thinks if she keeps repeating them - everyone will believe her.

Don't destroy her fantasy world.

Are you after her attention again?

[georgios100]

The essence of this thread is to demonstrate current & future consequences in "trnc" as it is now and in the future. Many TCs believe, if things stay as they are now, they will be better off than with a solution. I read this, all over the pages of CF, don't you? Only a small fraction of them are willing to compromise BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING IF THEY DON'T.

Cuba is not far off than "trnc". The embargo, imposed by the US & others is relentless. Cuban people are poor and desperate. Add on top the dictatorship of Fidel Castro who oppresses the population and there you have it. Hell on earth.

The embargo of Cuba is due to the dictatorship, the embargo of "trnc" is due to illegal occupation, but AN EMBARGO IS AN EMBARGO, any which way you slice it. The reasons to why these embargoes are enforced are irrelevant. The consequences are.

I chose Cuba as an example because I was there several times and know first hand what exactly is going on over there. I had extensive discussions with local ordinary Cubans, many of them well educated. Unlike what you read on the internet, ALL Cubans want out. They had more than enough of this situation. They cannot find or buy any product or service we have for granted. Imports are strictly controlled and destined for the selected few(Castro's) supporters but the general population gets nothing. The embargo is working.

The embargo of "trnc" works too. Frustration and despair has set in to the lives of the TCs. It's supposed to, and it does.

These are the similarities of the 2 states in comparison. If you wish, you can investigate other countries currently under embargo. Don't be surprised to discovered what I discover in Cuba.