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[growuptcs]

The mass murders in Cyprus of 1000s and 10s of thousands of people at a time were committed by the Turkish invaders. People who collaborate with the invaders are traitors and they deserve to be treated accordingly.

I do not support the murder of any innocents, but the punishment of traitors who are anything but innocent. I support our right to protest against the invaders and their collaborators and demand justice and the liberation of our island.

You don't support the murder of innocents but you do support extra-judicial killings (you've just said so) you do support lynch mob justice (you've just said so), you do support vengeance killings of those who you disagree (you've just said so). And you Piratis speak of your support for human rights ! Human rights in your book spells self-interest, because when you advocate extra-judicial, lynch-mob, and vengeance killings, of necessity innocent people will be killed. In every one else's book that defines a fascist.

Apart from you advocating the casual breach of the most basic right to life, you also deny people a right to a fair trial - with you and your murderous friends acting as prosecution, judge, jury and executioner.

Yours is a disgraceful posting.

I do not support any of those things you filthy criminal invader.

What I support is to take those who collaborate with you to help you occupy our country and violate our human rights, take them to courts, and if found guilty of collaborating with the enemy in any way, execute them. Treason is one of the worst crimes for which the death penalty is the appropriate punishment, especially in times of war.

Traitors are not "innocent", far from it. I would never support the murder of any innocent. This is what you do.

"Filthy, criminal invader"? Well, well, well. A good of example of the point I just made to you on another thread:

"Nobody is helping Turkey more than died-in-the-wool bigots like yourself, but you will never understand that."

Why don't you tell me in what way I am helping Turkey?

You, if I am not mistaken, are addressing Turkish Cypriots, en masse, as "filthy, criminal invaders." Turkish Cypriots, on hearing this kind of comment, will conclude that they do not wish to risk their lives by reuniting with such rabid , Turk-hating fascists and would prefer to have the Turkish Army there to protect them in their statelet so that they can sleep safely at nights. This suits Turkey's long-term goals. Once partition has become solidified and the north has been turned into a de facto province of Turkey, perhaps Turkey will send you a medal for all of your good services.

Allow me to interject.

I believe he was referring to Turkey and the illegal occupation regime. Piratis would not do what you accuse him of.

No, he wasn't. He addressed Copperline as a "filthy, criminal invader."

I believe he was addressing the occupation regime instead.

He isn't the type to refer to all TCs as "filthy criminal invaders".

Maybe he thinks Copper is a settler.

Somebody, while posting on an Internet forum, believes themself to be interacting with the abstract entity that is a regime and not an individual? Interesting.

As I told you before, I believe there is a misunderstanding and this has been blown out of all proportion.

He does not personally know Copper, but may believe that Copper is a settler, or a diplomat/lawyer of the regime.

I believe the comment was dedicated to Turkey and the illegal occupation regime.

Piratis is not that silly and you should give him more credit.

Stop being a smartass, you know damn well what Piratis said and you know damn well it is at all us TC's. It's not as if he's said something that you GC's all disagree with. You're all the bloody same. As far as you're concerned we are the remnants of the Ottomans and we shouldn't even be here. Look at Pirtaist's posts and see for yourself, he makes this point on daily basis. The man is Hitler in disguise.

Hitler is the one who invaded others, like you do. In fact when he invaded Czechoslovakia he used the exact same excuse as you did to invade Cyprus.

Hitler was hated, and so are those who support the Nazi practices of Turkey. Those who helped Hitler commit his crimes were found guilty and executed or jailed, and this should also happen to those who help Turkey occupy Cyprus.

Fuck off you demented piece of shit. I have a lot of sympathy with the vast majority of GC's, especially those that have lost their worldly possessions and I will support them in anyway I can for them to reclaim their possessions.

But with you, and the likes of you I have a huge problem. I couldn't give a fuck what you lost as a result of 74 and I couldn't give a fuck if there was another conflict and you were the first cunt to be the GC's casualty. The TC's would rejoice with all the Piratits of cyprus being exterminated once and for all.

Its not Piratis' words that make you react this way. You have to learn how to difuse the hate that you have in your mind and your heart. This reactionary attitude of yours needs to get adjusted to the point where everyone is equal.

[Pyrpolizer]

Stop being a smartass, you know damn well what Piratis said and you know damn well it is at all us TC's. It's not as if he's said something that you GC's all disagree with. You're all the bloody same. As far as you're concerned we are the remnants of the Ottomans and we shouldn't even be here. Look at Pirtaist's posts and see for yourself, he makes this point on daily basis. The man is Hitler in disguise.

How can I (personally) hate the TCs Mr-from-NG when I see in them old forgotten characteristics of my own mother, father, grandma, grandpa? I mean in the way they show kindness, they way the show patience, even the way the get angry or curse? Tell me is that possible?

I 've met many mainland Turks too, they are different from TCs...

The truth is I hate some TCs the same way I hate some GCs or British or whatever Nationality because simply because our characters don't much. Hey I m not a angel I admit that

So please don't generalize...

[Pyrpolizer]

What difference does the nationality of copperline make? Instead of debating his points of view in a civilised manner, pyrpolyser asked if he were Turkish! People like pyrpolyser do not fit in a modern society. They should be put on exhibit, in museums for people to take long looks at them.

Christ all mighty, Voltaire sorted this out some 250 years ago.

What? what?? I am schocked!!! When did I ask if he was Turkish??

Is this some trick Bananiot or what?

I know Copperline a long time ago in this forum, and I know when he was asked he replied he'd rather not reveal his nationality. I respected and still respect his wish.

I just REMINDED that to some people in here who treated him as if he was a mainland Turk. Nobody knows what he is, regardless of that I personally said that I discusssed many times with him and I respect him.


What the hell are you accusing me for???

[Jerry]

What difference does the nationality of copperline make? Instead of debating his points of view in a civilised manner, pyrpolyser asked if he were Turkish! People like pyrpolyser do not fit in a modern society. They should be put on exhibit, in museums for people to take long looks at them.

Christ all mighty, Voltaire sorted this out some 250 years ago.

What? what?? I am schocked!!! When did I ask if he was Turkish??

Is this some trick Bananiot or what?

I know Copperline a long time ago in this forum, and I know when he was asked he replied he'd rather not reveal his nationality. I respected and still respect his wish.

I just REMINDED that to some people in here who treated him as if he was a mainland Turk. Nobody knows what he is, regardless of that I personally said that I discusssed many times with him and I respect him.


What the hell are you accusing me for???

I think you are being confused with another contributor to this thread.

[Bananiot]

This is what you wrote Pyrpolyser, a couple of pages ago:

Btw Copperline never told us his nationality. I suspect he is some Turkish diplomat, but nevertheless I personally respect him because he has deep knowledge on legal matters. Also when I was more actively participating here he tried his best to be impartial...

You suspect he is some Turkish diplomat. Turkish diplomats are ... Turkish, are they not?

[MR-from-NG]

What difference does the nationality of copperline make? Instead of debating his points of view in a civilised manner, pyrpolyser asked if he were Turkish! People like pyrpolyser do not fit in a modern society. They should be put on exhibit, in museums for people to take long looks at them.

Christ all mighty, Voltaire sorted this out some 250 years ago.

What? what?? I am schocked!!! When did I ask if he was Turkish??

Is this some trick Bananiot or what?

I know Copperline a long time ago in this forum, and I know when he was asked he replied he'd rather not reveal his nationality. I respected and still respect his wish.

I just REMINDED that to some people in here who treated him as if he was a mainland Turk. Nobody knows what he is, regardless of that I personally said that I discusssed many times with him and I respect him.


What the hell are you accusing me for???

I think you are being confused with another contributor to this thread.

Pyrpolizer made it sound as though it would have been fine for Piratists insults had Coperline been a Turk. Bananiot is simply pointing out that nobody in the civilised world should be insulted in such a manner regardless of their ethnicity.

[CopperLine]

I appreciate Pyrpolizer's comments on my identity, whatever his/her speculations. Equally I appreciate Bananiot's comments.

It is precisely because of the prejudicial effect on national 'identity' that I will not reveal my identity. Secondly, since I loathe the destructive and corrupting effects of nationalism I have no wish to give it the slightest help. Third, my supposed 'national' identity means nothing to me. However "The workers have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win." (not something a diplomat is likely to say

[Piratis]

The mass murders in Cyprus of 1000s and 10s of thousands of people at a time were committed by the Turkish invaders. People who collaborate with the invaders are traitors and they deserve to be treated accordingly.

I do not support the murder of any innocents, but the punishment of traitors who are anything but innocent. I support our right to protest against the invaders and their collaborators and demand justice and the liberation of our island.

You don't support the murder of innocents but you do support extra-judicial killings (you've just said so) you do support lynch mob justice (you've just said so), you do support vengeance killings of those who you disagree (you've just said so). And you Piratis speak of your support for human rights ! Human rights in your book spells self-interest, because when you advocate extra-judicial, lynch-mob, and vengeance killings, of necessity innocent people will be killed. In every one else's book that defines a fascist.

Apart from you advocating the casual breach of the most basic right to life, you also deny people a right to a fair trial - with you and your murderous friends acting as prosecution, judge, jury and executioner.

Yours is a disgraceful posting.

I do not support any of those things you filthy criminal invader.

What I support is to take those who collaborate with you to help you occupy our country and violate our human rights, take them to courts, and if found guilty of collaborating with the enemy in any way, execute them. Treason is one of the worst crimes for which the death penalty is the appropriate punishment, especially in times of war.

Traitors are not "innocent", far from it. I would never support the murder of any innocent. This is what you do.

"Filthy, criminal invader"? Well, well, well. A good of example of the point I just made to you on another thread:

"Nobody is helping Turkey more than died-in-the-wool bigots like yourself, but you will never understand that."

Why don't you tell me in what way I am helping Turkey?

You, if I am not mistaken, are addressing Turkish Cypriots, en masse, as "filthy, criminal invaders." Turkish Cypriots, on hearing this kind of comment, will conclude that they do not wish to risk their lives by reuniting with such rabid , Turk-hating fascists and would prefer to have the Turkish Army there to protect them in their statelet so that they can sleep safely at nights. This suits Turkey's long-term goals. Once partition has become solidified and the north has been turned into a de facto province of Turkey, perhaps Turkey will send you a medal for all of your good services.

Allow me to interject.

I believe he was referring to Turkey and the illegal occupation regime. Piratis would not do what you accuse him of.

No, he wasn't. He addressed Copperline as a "filthy, criminal invader."

I believe he was addressing the occupation regime instead.

He isn't the type to refer to all TCs as "filthy criminal invaders".

Maybe he thinks Copper is a settler.

Somebody, while posting on an Internet forum, believes themself to be interacting with the abstract entity that is a regime and not an individual? Interesting.

As I told you before, I believe there is a misunderstanding and this has been blown out of all proportion.

He does not personally know Copper, but may believe that Copper is a settler, or a diplomat/lawyer of the regime.

I believe the comment was dedicated to Turkey and the illegal occupation regime.

Piratis is not that silly and you should give him more credit.

Stop being a smartass, you know damn well what Piratis said and you know damn well it is at all us TC's. It's not as if he's said something that you GC's all disagree with. You're all the bloody same. As far as you're concerned we are the remnants of the Ottomans and we shouldn't even be here. Look at Pirtaist's posts and see for yourself, he makes this point on daily basis. The man is Hitler in disguise.

Hitler is the one who invaded others, like you do. In fact when he invaded Czechoslovakia he used the exact same excuse as you did to invade Cyprus.

Hitler was hated, and so are those who support the Nazi practices of Turkey. Those who helped Hitler commit his crimes were found guilty and executed or jailed, and this should also happen to those who help Turkey occupy Cyprus.

Fuck off you demented piece of shit. I have a lot of sympathy with the vast majority of GC's, especially those that have lost their worldly possessions and I will support them in anyway I can for them to reclaim their possessions.

But with you, and the likes of you I have a huge problem. I couldn't give a fuck what you lost as a result of 74 and I couldn't give a fuck if there was another conflict and you were the first cunt to be the GC's casualty. The TC's would rejoice with all the Piratits of cyprus being exterminated once and for all.

You could just as well admit that you lost the argument. It would take less time than writing all that junk.

Cyprus is today occupied by Turkey, just like Czechoslovakia was occupied by Hitler. Both the Nazi Germans and the Nazi Turks used the same kind of excuse to invade a foreign to them country and oppress the local population.

We hate those Hitlers, Ecevits, Erdogans and similar criminal fascists and they should all be executed along with all those who collaborate with them.

[Piratis]

I appreciate Pyrpolizer's comments on my identity, whatever his/her speculations. Equally I appreciate Bananiot's comments.

It is precisely because of the prejudicial effect on national 'identity' that I will not reveal my identity. Secondly, since I loathe the destructive and corrupting effects of nationalism I have no wish to give it the slightest help. Third, my supposed 'national' identity means nothing to me. However "The workers have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win." (not something a diplomat is likely to say

You are such a Turkish nationalist that what you are is obvious to all and can not be hidden.

If you were what you claim you are then nobody here would have figured out your nationality.

[Pyrpolizer]

This is what you wrote Pyrpolyser, a couple of pages ago:

Btw Copperline never told us his nationality. I suspect he is some Turkish diplomat, but nevertheless I personally respect him because he has deep knowledge on legal matters. Also when I was more actively participating here he tried his best to be impartial...

You suspect he is some Turkish diplomat. Turkish diplomats are ... Turkish, are they not?

Jesus you will make me mad now.

FIRST SENTENSE-->> Conclussion: we don't know his nationality
BEGINING OF SECOND SENTENSE ---> My personal opinion
SECOND SENTENSE AFTER the NEVERTHELESS ---> Even if my personal opinion were true, it doesn't matter for me personally, I respect the person for what he is, i know him, i discussed with him many times.

Although it was Copperline who started it, Piratis overreacted and I thought by posting the above would help stop the fight AT THAT POINT.

Why is it only you who sees it like that? Other people understood it as it was, some people even expressed their own opinions about what the nationality of Copperline might be. What's wrong with that???

Btw you are too fast in labeling with the WORST INSULTS everybody.What was the label you used Vs Syllouris a "fascist "?
I tell you what, you don't know what a fascist is...