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[Paphitis]

No I do not get it, idiot. Apartheid is what we have now in Cyprus, but you do not give a damn because you are far away and do not live the consequences. 37% of the country turkified, 40k Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth, 200k refugees for ever it seems, and your idiotic approach to this huge problem is "restoration of human rights" without saying how this can happen in practice in the not so distant future, before everyone forgets about the Cyprus issue.

P.S.When I wrote:

Boomerang, everybody knows who I am, what work I do, where I come from, what I look like and even the places I go too. I do not hide behind nicks. I dare you to do the same.

I was responding to the following:

Isn't Mikiko Bananiots actual name anyway????
I think they are one and the same, a double act.

Which was written by the other foul mouth of the forum, B25 and was duly endorsed by boomerang. Thus, I apologise for confusing the two baggers who are obviously not "one and the same".

The fact that boomerang now swears in Greek, I suppose it is okay with the administrator.

Much better to not have Apartheid in 63% than to lose control and have Apartheid on the entire island!

Pure common sense for all those that do not have hidden imperialistic agendas serving the interests of every other country apart from the RoC!

If you could only realise how pathetic and irrational your arguments with Bananiot are...It would be funny if you were not gifting 37% of Cyprus to Turkey on a plate...

Nothing irrational for wanting Australia's Democracy and constitution transplanted into the RoC.

If that is unachievable, then partition is the only plausible 'solution', but until then, we will maintain the Status Quo indefinitely!

Democracy and Human Rights are NOT irrational or pathetic arguments! Trading them for all the land in the world is something no one will do in their right mind. Without democracy and Human Rights you have nothing, and your children have nothing! Cypriots know this only too well.

Paphidi...When will you see the writing on the wall???Cyprus is not Australia...Cypriots do not trust each other...They had 3 years to jointly run the country and they totally stuffed it up...Then there was apartheid for 11 years during which the bitterness and mistrust were multiplied...Then there was the little Sampson coup and the resulting Turkish invasion....You can't pretend these events didn't take place...Keeping your head in the sand and talking about democracy and human rights might make you feel morally superior,but it will do nothing to solve the problem practically...Notice how I did not apportion any blame...I just gave you the facts...In the end it matters little who was guilty for how much or for how long...We need to deal with the past and agree to a practical and realistic solution...Anything else is like pissing against the wind...

Those who don't want to see Cyprus metamorphose into another 'Australia' and rid itself of the Zurich Agreements and anything else that masquerades as a "solution" feeding even more mistrust and bitterness amongst Cypriots and causing the deaths of many hundreds more down the track, can only be categorised as an enemy of Cyprus!

Those that have been fortunate to live in Australia as descent Australians, know exactly what I mean, and anyone that has this core Australian decency will only wish that Cyprus has a True Democracy like Australians are now blessed with, including the Aborigines (the original Australians) who have much more reason to have mistrust and bitterness!

[Piratis]

...maybe it had to do with the changes at the last minute, guaranteeing its appearance as a sullied document.

...not crocodile tears if they knew what was right, and that only in history long after their deaths would it be proved.

...Talat caved in to the interlocutors demands, he could have delayed the referendum, he too should have accepted that its result would not help their cause as Cypriots.

...i didn't like the Annan plan because it is unclear, have you read it?

Not in detail,RW....I read the main points and a lot of commentary from the TC newspapers....Anyway it is dead and buried now...I am looking forward to the next plan,and I have a feeling we won't have to wait too long before it appears....

I reckon you will be waiting a very, very, very, very long time. And if it is anything like the Annan Plan, then you can just forget it!

Cypriots aren't stupid you know!

Some would say Cypriots (of all kinds) are the most stupid people in the whole world...Look at the mess they allowed their country to get in...

The mess was created by the foreign imperialists and their local collaborators, not by the Cypriot people.

The proof for this is the 63% of Cyprus that remained free after 1974. Although we lost 37% of our land (more if you count the bases), more than 50% of our resources and 50% of our coastline, within a few decades we managed to transform Cyprus from a poor colony made of mostly uneducated farmers into a modern European country with standards that approach those of western Europe. And all these with having 1/3rd of our population as refugees in need of housing and support.

During these years we had a true democracy, with several people and parties from the whole range of the political spectrum taking the leadership of Cyprus. With no incident whatsoever between the majority ethnic group and any of the minorities living in the free areas.

Imagine what Cypriots could do if it wasn't for foreign invaders stealing our lands and creating problems to us. And by Cypriots I include TCs as well, if they were allowed to be equal citizens like the rest ethnic minorities, instead of being used as an excuse by foreign imperialists in order for them to maintain troops and control over our island.

[BirKibrisli]

No I do not get it, idiot. Apartheid is what we have now in Cyprus, but you do not give a damn because you are far away and do not live the consequences. 37% of the country turkified, 40k Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth, 200k refugees for ever it seems, and your idiotic approach to this huge problem is "restoration of human rights" without saying how this can happen in practice in the not so distant future, before everyone forgets about the Cyprus issue.

P.S.When I wrote:

Boomerang, everybody knows who I am, what work I do, where I come from, what I look like and even the places I go too. I do not hide behind nicks. I dare you to do the same.

I was responding to the following:

Isn't Mikiko Bananiots actual name anyway????
I think they are one and the same, a double act.

Which was written by the other foul mouth of the forum, B25 and was duly endorsed by boomerang. Thus, I apologise for confusing the two baggers who are obviously not "one and the same".

The fact that boomerang now swears in Greek, I suppose it is okay with the administrator.

Much better to not have Apartheid in 63% than to lose control and have Apartheid on the entire island!

Pure common sense for all those that do not have hidden imperialistic agendas serving the interests of every other country apart from the RoC!

If you could only realise how pathetic and irrational your arguments with Bananiot are...It would be funny if you were not gifting 37% of Cyprus to Turkey on a plate...

Nothing irrational for wanting Australia's Democracy and constitution transplanted into the RoC.

If that is unachievable, then partition is the only plausible 'solution', but until then, we will maintain the Status Quo indefinitely!

Democracy and Human Rights are NOT irrational or pathetic arguments! Trading them for all the land in the world is something no one will do in their right mind. Without democracy and Human Rights you have nothing, and your children have nothing! Cypriots know this only too well.

Paphidi...When will you see the writing on the wall???Cyprus is not Australia...Cypriots do not trust each other...They had 3 years to jointly run the country and they totally stuffed it up...Then there was apartheid for 11 years during which the bitterness and mistrust were multiplied...Then there was the little Sampson coup and the resulting Turkish invasion....You can't pretend these events didn't take place...Keeping your head in the sand and talking about democracy and human rights might make you feel morally superior,but it will do nothing to solve the problem practically...Notice how I did not apportion any blame...I just gave you the facts...In the end it matters little who was guilty for how much or for how long...We need to deal with the past and agree to a practical and realistic solution...Anything else is like pissing against the wind...

Those who don't want to see Cyprus metamorphose into another 'Australia' and rid itself of the Zurich Agreements and anything else that masquerades as a "solution" feeding even more mistrust and bitterness amongst Cypriots and causing the deaths of many hundreds more down the track, can only be categorised as an enemy of Cyprus!

Those that have been fortunate to live in Australia as descent Australians, know exactly what I mean, and anyone that has this core Australian decency will only wish that Cyprus has a True Democracy like Australians are now blessed with, including the Aborigines (the original Australians) who have much more reason to have mistrust and bitterness!

I know you wont believe this ,Paphidis,but my wish for Cyprus is a unitary state run strictly as a western style democratic country where the rule of law reigns supreme and no concessions given for ethnic backgrounds...

But no amount of wishing or praying is going to bring that about...We need a practical,realistic solution to get us out of the mess we are in first...When I say that I get accused wanting to justify Turkey's expansionist policies...Time is not on Cypriots side...When I say that I get accused of wanting to gain on others' loss...You see where I am getting at? You can't even trust me,someone who did nothing but talk about the wrongs of the TC side for the first 3 years here...What chance do we have for a peaceful and lasting solution...Buckley's I'd say...

[Paphitis]

No I do not get it, idiot. Apartheid is what we have now in Cyprus, but you do not give a damn because you are far away and do not live the consequences. 37% of the country turkified, 40k Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth, 200k refugees for ever it seems, and your idiotic approach to this huge problem is "restoration of human rights" without saying how this can happen in practice in the not so distant future, before everyone forgets about the Cyprus issue.

P.S.When I wrote:

Boomerang, everybody knows who I am, what work I do, where I come from, what I look like and even the places I go too. I do not hide behind nicks. I dare you to do the same.

I was responding to the following:

Isn't Mikiko Bananiots actual name anyway????
I think they are one and the same, a double act.

Which was written by the other foul mouth of the forum, B25 and was duly endorsed by boomerang. Thus, I apologise for confusing the two baggers who are obviously not "one and the same".

The fact that boomerang now swears in Greek, I suppose it is okay with the administrator.

Much better to not have Apartheid in 63% than to lose control and have Apartheid on the entire island!

Pure common sense for all those that do not have hidden imperialistic agendas serving the interests of every other country apart from the RoC!

If you could only realise how pathetic and irrational your arguments with Bananiot are...It would be funny if you were not gifting 37% of Cyprus to Turkey on a plate...

Nothing irrational for wanting Australia's Democracy and constitution transplanted into the RoC.

If that is unachievable, then partition is the only plausible 'solution', but until then, we will maintain the Status Quo indefinitely!

Democracy and Human Rights are NOT irrational or pathetic arguments! Trading them for all the land in the world is something no one will do in their right mind. Without democracy and Human Rights you have nothing, and your children have nothing! Cypriots know this only too well.

Paphidi...When will you see the writing on the wall???Cyprus is not Australia...Cypriots do not trust each other...They had 3 years to jointly run the country and they totally stuffed it up...Then there was apartheid for 11 years during which the bitterness and mistrust were multiplied...Then there was the little Sampson coup and the resulting Turkish invasion....You can't pretend these events didn't take place...Keeping your head in the sand and talking about democracy and human rights might make you feel morally superior,but it will do nothing to solve the problem practically...Notice how I did not apportion any blame...I just gave you the facts...In the end it matters little who was guilty for how much or for how long...We need to deal with the past and agree to a practical and realistic solution...Anything else is like pissing against the wind...

Those who don't want to see Cyprus metamorphose into another 'Australia' and rid itself of the Zurich Agreements and anything else that masquerades as a "solution" feeding even more mistrust and bitterness amongst Cypriots and causing the deaths of many hundreds more down the track, can only be categorised as an enemy of Cyprus!

Those that have been fortunate to live in Australia as descent Australians, know exactly what I mean, and anyone that has this core Australian decency will only wish that Cyprus has a True Democracy like Australians are now blessed with, including the Aborigines (the original Australians) who have much more reason to have mistrust and bitterness!

I know you wont believe this ,Paphidis,but my wish for Cyprus is a unitary state run strictly as a western style democratic country where the rule of law reigns supreme and no concessions given for ethnic backgrounds...

But no amount of wishing or praying is going to bring that about...We need a practical,realistic solution to get us out of the mess we are in first...When I say that I get accused wanting to justify Turkey's expansionist policies...Time is not on Cypriots side...When I say that I get accused of wanting to gain on others' loss...You see where I am getting at? You can't even trust me,someone who did nothing but talk about the wrongs of the TC side for the first 3 years here...What chance do we have for a peaceful and lasting solution...Buckley's I'd say...

There is no other solution we are willing to accept. True democracy and human rights is the only practical solution available to us. There can be no variations against these core values which will only lead to more problems. Sorry, but my children will never live under such a system!

We have come to the conclusion that we are better off with Status Quo and some of us are coming to terms with official partition on fair terms. But that is up to Turkey to initiate, not the TCs as they were out of the equation long ago!

[BirKibrisli]

No I do not get it, idiot. Apartheid is what we have now in Cyprus, but you do not give a damn because you are far away and do not live the consequences. 37% of the country turkified, 40k Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth, 200k refugees for ever it seems, and your idiotic approach to this huge problem is "restoration of human rights" without saying how this can happen in practice in the not so distant future, before everyone forgets about the Cyprus issue.

P.S.When I wrote:

Boomerang, everybody knows who I am, what work I do, where I come from, what I look like and even the places I go too. I do not hide behind nicks. I dare you to do the same.

I was responding to the following:

Isn't Mikiko Bananiots actual name anyway????
I think they are one and the same, a double act.

Which was written by the other foul mouth of the forum, B25 and was duly endorsed by boomerang. Thus, I apologise for confusing the two baggers who are obviously not "one and the same".

The fact that boomerang now swears in Greek, I suppose it is okay with the administrator.

Much better to not have Apartheid in 63% than to lose control and have Apartheid on the entire island!

Pure common sense for all those that do not have hidden imperialistic agendas serving the interests of every other country apart from the RoC!

If you could only realise how pathetic and irrational your arguments with Bananiot are...It would be funny if you were not gifting 37% of Cyprus to Turkey on a plate...

Nothing irrational for wanting Australia's Democracy and constitution transplanted into the RoC.

If that is unachievable, then partition is the only plausible 'solution', but until then, we will maintain the Status Quo indefinitely!

Democracy and Human Rights are NOT irrational or pathetic arguments! Trading them for all the land in the world is something no one will do in their right mind. Without democracy and Human Rights you have nothing, and your children have nothing! Cypriots know this only too well.

Paphidi...When will you see the writing on the wall???Cyprus is not Australia...Cypriots do not trust each other...They had 3 years to jointly run the country and they totally stuffed it up...Then there was apartheid for 11 years during which the bitterness and mistrust were multiplied...Then there was the little Sampson coup and the resulting Turkish invasion....You can't pretend these events didn't take place...Keeping your head in the sand and talking about democracy and human rights might make you feel morally superior,but it will do nothing to solve the problem practically...Notice how I did not apportion any blame...I just gave you the facts...In the end it matters little who was guilty for how much or for how long...We need to deal with the past and agree to a practical and realistic solution...Anything else is like pissing against the wind...

Those who don't want to see Cyprus metamorphose into another 'Australia' and rid itself of the Zurich Agreements and anything else that masquerades as a "solution" feeding even more mistrust and bitterness amongst Cypriots and causing the deaths of many hundreds more down the track, can only be categorised as an enemy of Cyprus!

Those that have been fortunate to live in Australia as descent Australians, know exactly what I mean, and anyone that has this core Australian decency will only wish that Cyprus has a True Democracy like Australians are now blessed with, including the Aborigines (the original Australians) who have much more reason to have mistrust and bitterness!

I know you wont believe this ,Paphidis,but my wish for Cyprus is a unitary state run strictly as a western style democratic country where the rule of law reigns supreme and no concessions given for ethnic backgrounds...

But no amount of wishing or praying is going to bring that about...We need a practical,realistic solution to get us out of the mess we are in first...When I say that I get accused wanting to justify Turkey's expansionist policies...Time is not on Cypriots side...When I say that I get accused of wanting to gain on others' loss...You see where I am getting at? You can't even trust me,someone who did nothing but talk about the wrongs of the TC side for the first 3 years here...What chance do we have for a peaceful and lasting solution...Buckley's I'd say...

There is no other solution we are willing to accept. True democracy and human rights is the only practical solution available to us. There can be no variations against these core values which will only lead to more problems. Sorry, but my children will never live under such a system!

We have come to the conclusion that we are better off with Status Quo and some of us are coming to terms with official partition on fair terms. But that is up to Turkey to initiate, not the TCs as they were out of the equation long ago!

So you have come out at last,you are a PARTITIONIST....
kEEP GOING AND YOU MIGHT JUST GET YOUR WISH...But Turkey will decide what are "fair terms" for your official partition agreement...You are right,the TCs are largely out of the equation...

[Paphitis]

No I do not get it, idiot. Apartheid is what we have now in Cyprus, but you do not give a damn because you are far away and do not live the consequences. 37% of the country turkified, 40k Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth, 200k refugees for ever it seems, and your idiotic approach to this huge problem is "restoration of human rights" without saying how this can happen in practice in the not so distant future, before everyone forgets about the Cyprus issue.

P.S.When I wrote:

Boomerang, everybody knows who I am, what work I do, where I come from, what I look like and even the places I go too. I do not hide behind nicks. I dare you to do the same.

I was responding to the following:

Isn't Mikiko Bananiots actual name anyway????
I think they are one and the same, a double act.

Which was written by the other foul mouth of the forum, B25 and was duly endorsed by boomerang. Thus, I apologise for confusing the two baggers who are obviously not "one and the same".

The fact that boomerang now swears in Greek, I suppose it is okay with the administrator.

Much better to not have Apartheid in 63% than to lose control and have Apartheid on the entire island!

Pure common sense for all those that do not have hidden imperialistic agendas serving the interests of every other country apart from the RoC!

If you could only realise how pathetic and irrational your arguments with Bananiot are...It would be funny if you were not gifting 37% of Cyprus to Turkey on a plate...

Nothing irrational for wanting Australia's Democracy and constitution transplanted into the RoC.

If that is unachievable, then partition is the only plausible 'solution', but until then, we will maintain the Status Quo indefinitely!

Democracy and Human Rights are NOT irrational or pathetic arguments! Trading them for all the land in the world is something no one will do in their right mind. Without democracy and Human Rights you have nothing, and your children have nothing! Cypriots know this only too well.

Paphidi...When will you see the writing on the wall???Cyprus is not Australia...Cypriots do not trust each other...They had 3 years to jointly run the country and they totally stuffed it up...Then there was apartheid for 11 years during which the bitterness and mistrust were multiplied...Then there was the little Sampson coup and the resulting Turkish invasion....You can't pretend these events didn't take place...Keeping your head in the sand and talking about democracy and human rights might make you feel morally superior,but it will do nothing to solve the problem practically...Notice how I did not apportion any blame...I just gave you the facts...In the end it matters little who was guilty for how much or for how long...We need to deal with the past and agree to a practical and realistic solution...Anything else is like pissing against the wind...

Those who don't want to see Cyprus metamorphose into another 'Australia' and rid itself of the Zurich Agreements and anything else that masquerades as a "solution" feeding even more mistrust and bitterness amongst Cypriots and causing the deaths of many hundreds more down the track, can only be categorised as an enemy of Cyprus!

Those that have been fortunate to live in Australia as descent Australians, know exactly what I mean, and anyone that has this core Australian decency will only wish that Cyprus has a True Democracy like Australians are now blessed with, including the Aborigines (the original Australians) who have much more reason to have mistrust and bitterness!

I know you wont believe this ,Paphidis,but my wish for Cyprus is a unitary state run strictly as a western style democratic country where the rule of law reigns supreme and no concessions given for ethnic backgrounds...

But no amount of wishing or praying is going to bring that about...We need a practical,realistic solution to get us out of the mess we are in first...When I say that I get accused wanting to justify Turkey's expansionist policies...Time is not on Cypriots side...When I say that I get accused of wanting to gain on others' loss...You see where I am getting at? You can't even trust me,someone who did nothing but talk about the wrongs of the TC side for the first 3 years here...What chance do we have for a peaceful and lasting solution...Buckley's I'd say...

There is no other solution we are willing to accept. True democracy and human rights is the only practical solution available to us. There can be no variations against these core values which will only lead to more problems. Sorry, but my children will never live under such a system!

We have come to the conclusion that we are better off with Status Quo and some of us are coming to terms with official partition on fair terms. But that is up to Turkey to initiate, not the TCs as they were out of the equation long ago!

So you have come out at last,you are a PARTITIONIST....
kEEP GOING AND YOU MIGHT JUST GET YOUR WISH...But Turkey will decide what are "fair terms" for your official partition agreement...You are right,the TCs are largely out of the equation...

No, I am a pragmatic realist!

The TCs don't have the vision to accept True Democracy and Human Rights, and I certainly am not silly enough to support anything less! So where does that leave you? Most Cypriots feel the same way.

Turkey is in no position to be setting the "fair terms". In case you haven't realised, you are the guys on the ropes here. The RoC will always control the flow as it has done for 36 years!

[YFred]

No I do not get it, idiot. Apartheid is what we have now in Cyprus, but you do not give a damn because you are far away and do not live the consequences. 37% of the country turkified, 40k Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth, 200k refugees for ever it seems, and your idiotic approach to this huge problem is "restoration of human rights" without saying how this can happen in practice in the not so distant future, before everyone forgets about the Cyprus issue.

P.S.When I wrote:

Boomerang, everybody knows who I am, what work I do, where I come from, what I look like and even the places I go too. I do not hide behind nicks. I dare you to do the same.

I was responding to the following:

Isn't Mikiko Bananiots actual name anyway????
I think they are one and the same, a double act.

Which was written by the other foul mouth of the forum, B25 and was duly endorsed by boomerang. Thus, I apologise for confusing the two baggers who are obviously not "one and the same".

The fact that boomerang now swears in Greek, I suppose it is okay with the administrator.

Much better to not have Apartheid in 63% than to lose control and have Apartheid on the entire island!

Pure common sense for all those that do not have hidden imperialistic agendas serving the interests of every other country apart from the RoC!

If you could only realise how pathetic and irrational your arguments with Bananiot are...It would be funny if you were not gifting 37% of Cyprus to Turkey on a plate...

Nothing irrational for wanting Australia's Democracy and constitution transplanted into the RoC.

If that is unachievable, then partition is the only plausible 'solution', but until then, we will maintain the Status Quo indefinitely!

Democracy and Human Rights are NOT irrational or pathetic arguments! Trading them for all the land in the world is something no one will do in their right mind. Without democracy and Human Rights you have nothing, and your children have nothing! Cypriots know this only too well.

Paphidi...When will you see the writing on the wall???Cyprus is not Australia...Cypriots do not trust each other...They had 3 years to jointly run the country and they totally stuffed it up...Then there was apartheid for 11 years during which the bitterness and mistrust were multiplied...Then there was the little Sampson coup and the resulting Turkish invasion....You can't pretend these events didn't take place...Keeping your head in the sand and talking about democracy and human rights might make you feel morally superior,but it will do nothing to solve the problem practically...Notice how I did not apportion any blame...I just gave you the facts...In the end it matters little who was guilty for how much or for how long...We need to deal with the past and agree to a practical and realistic solution...Anything else is like pissing against the wind...

Those who don't want to see Cyprus metamorphose into another 'Australia' and rid itself of the Zurich Agreements and anything else that masquerades as a "solution" feeding even more mistrust and bitterness amongst Cypriots and causing the deaths of many hundreds more down the track, can only be categorised as an enemy of Cyprus!

Those that have been fortunate to live in Australia as descent Australians, know exactly what I mean, and anyone that has this core Australian decency will only wish that Cyprus has a True Democracy like Australians are now blessed with, including the Aborigines (the original Australians) who have much more reason to have mistrust and bitterness!

I know you wont believe this ,Paphidis,but my wish for Cyprus is a unitary state run strictly as a western style democratic country where the rule of law reigns supreme and no concessions given for ethnic backgrounds...

But no amount of wishing or praying is going to bring that about...We need a practical,realistic solution to get us out of the mess we are in first...When I say that I get accused wanting to justify Turkey's expansionist policies...Time is not on Cypriots side...When I say that I get accused of wanting to gain on others' loss...You see where I am getting at? You can't even trust me,someone who did nothing but talk about the wrongs of the TC side for the first 3 years here...What chance do we have for a peaceful and lasting solution...Buckley's I'd say...

There is no other solution we are willing to accept. True democracy and human rights is the only practical solution available to us. There can be no variations against these core values which will only lead to more problems. Sorry, but my children will never live under such a system!

We have come to the conclusion that we are better off with Status Quo and some of us are coming to terms with official partition on fair terms. But that is up to Turkey to initiate, not the TCs as they were out of the equation long ago!

So you have come out at last,you are a PARTITIONIST....
kEEP GOING AND YOU MIGHT JUST GET YOUR WISH...But Turkey will decide what are "fair terms" for your official partition agreement...You are right,the TCs are largely out of the equation...

No, I am a pragmatic realist!

The TCs don't have the vision to accept True Democracy and Human Rights, and I certainly am not silly enough to support anything less! So where does that leave you? Most Cypriots feel the same way.

Turkey is in no position to be setting the "fair terms". In case you haven't realised, you are the guys on the ropes here. The RoC will always control the flow as it has done for 36 years!

Your dream is turning into a nightmare and you are just not aware of it.

[Paphitis]

No I do not get it, idiot. Apartheid is what we have now in Cyprus, but you do not give a damn because you are far away and do not live the consequences. 37% of the country turkified, 40k Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth, 200k refugees for ever it seems, and your idiotic approach to this huge problem is "restoration of human rights" without saying how this can happen in practice in the not so distant future, before everyone forgets about the Cyprus issue.

P.S.When I wrote:

Boomerang, everybody knows who I am, what work I do, where I come from, what I look like and even the places I go too. I do not hide behind nicks. I dare you to do the same.

I was responding to the following:

Isn't Mikiko Bananiots actual name anyway????
I think they are one and the same, a double act.

Which was written by the other foul mouth of the forum, B25 and was duly endorsed by boomerang. Thus, I apologise for confusing the two baggers who are obviously not "one and the same".

The fact that boomerang now swears in Greek, I suppose it is okay with the administrator.

Much better to not have Apartheid in 63% than to lose control and have Apartheid on the entire island!

Pure common sense for all those that do not have hidden imperialistic agendas serving the interests of every other country apart from the RoC!

If you could only realise how pathetic and irrational your arguments with Bananiot are...It would be funny if you were not gifting 37% of Cyprus to Turkey on a plate...

Nothing irrational for wanting Australia's Democracy and constitution transplanted into the RoC.

If that is unachievable, then partition is the only plausible 'solution', but until then, we will maintain the Status Quo indefinitely!

Democracy and Human Rights are NOT irrational or pathetic arguments! Trading them for all the land in the world is something no one will do in their right mind. Without democracy and Human Rights you have nothing, and your children have nothing! Cypriots know this only too well.

Paphidi...When will you see the writing on the wall???Cyprus is not Australia...Cypriots do not trust each other...They had 3 years to jointly run the country and they totally stuffed it up...Then there was apartheid for 11 years during which the bitterness and mistrust were multiplied...Then there was the little Sampson coup and the resulting Turkish invasion....You can't pretend these events didn't take place...Keeping your head in the sand and talking about democracy and human rights might make you feel morally superior,but it will do nothing to solve the problem practically...Notice how I did not apportion any blame...I just gave you the facts...In the end it matters little who was guilty for how much or for how long...We need to deal with the past and agree to a practical and realistic solution...Anything else is like pissing against the wind...

Those who don't want to see Cyprus metamorphose into another 'Australia' and rid itself of the Zurich Agreements and anything else that masquerades as a "solution" feeding even more mistrust and bitterness amongst Cypriots and causing the deaths of many hundreds more down the track, can only be categorised as an enemy of Cyprus!

Those that have been fortunate to live in Australia as descent Australians, know exactly what I mean, and anyone that has this core Australian decency will only wish that Cyprus has a True Democracy like Australians are now blessed with, including the Aborigines (the original Australians) who have much more reason to have mistrust and bitterness!

I know you wont believe this ,Paphidis,but my wish for Cyprus is a unitary state run strictly as a western style democratic country where the rule of law reigns supreme and no concessions given for ethnic backgrounds...

But no amount of wishing or praying is going to bring that about...We need a practical,realistic solution to get us out of the mess we are in first...When I say that I get accused wanting to justify Turkey's expansionist policies...Time is not on Cypriots side...When I say that I get accused of wanting to gain on others' loss...You see where I am getting at? You can't even trust me,someone who did nothing but talk about the wrongs of the TC side for the first 3 years here...What chance do we have for a peaceful and lasting solution...Buckley's I'd say...

There is no other solution we are willing to accept. True democracy and human rights is the only practical solution available to us. There can be no variations against these core values which will only lead to more problems. Sorry, but my children will never live under such a system!

We have come to the conclusion that we are better off with Status Quo and some of us are coming to terms with official partition on fair terms. But that is up to Turkey to initiate, not the TCs as they were out of the equation long ago!

So you have come out at last,you are a PARTITIONIST....
kEEP GOING AND YOU MIGHT JUST GET YOUR WISH...But Turkey will decide what are "fair terms" for your official partition agreement...You are right,the TCs are largely out of the equation...

No, I am a pragmatic realist!

The TCs don't have the vision to accept True Democracy and Human Rights, and I certainly am not silly enough to support anything less! So where does that leave you? Most Cypriots feel the same way.

Turkey is in no position to be setting the "fair terms". In case you haven't realised, you are the guys on the ropes here. The RoC will always control the flow as it has done for 36 years!

Your dream is turning into a nightmare and you are just not aware of it.

No, everything is just fine in the RoC!

I'm having a lot of wet dreams lately as well!

[YFred]

So why was it exactly they were chasing their tails to see why the direct trade with the north was going to be discussed in the eu?
Times is a comin my boy.
Times there are a changing.

[Paphitis]

So why was it exactly they were chasing their tails to see why the direct trade with the north was going to be discussed in the eu?
Times is a comin my boy.
Times there are a changing.

Chasing their tails!

You got to be kidding me! We don't sign things with our tails, Y-Cunt!