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[Pyrpolizer]

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[Pyrpolizer]

That private property ownership does not mean country ownership the % does not necessarily equal the other as many GCs claim that we are only entitiled to land proportional to our population % .

VP if and when we ever come to a solution, you will administrate yourselves in the northern part. Soon enough you will discover you are not alone, in fact to advance economically GC banks and millionaires will have to invest there. Let aside the 100s of EU residents you will be flooded with as we are already getting flooded in the RoC controlled area already.

Intially the dream of your purely Turkish state will be true, and that's good if you ask me cause it will give you a sense of self of confidence and security. This however will change radically in the following years.

I am not saying that to bicker you, but that will be the reality, and it will be a nice and welcoming change for you too, trust me.

TC Nationalists and dreamers of a purely Turkish state will get the schock of their lives...

[BirKibrisli]

That private property ownership does not mean country ownership the % does not necessarily equal the other as many GCs claim that we are only entitiled to land proportional to our population % .

So millitary invasions can eliminate other country's sovereignty rights then.

You cannot talk about sovereignty rights in a country where one community has been robbed of their constitutional rights at gunpoint...Time you faced this fact,DT...The GCs were the original violaters of the sovereignty of Cyprus,when they treacherously plotted to achieve Enosis with Greece...Accept it,take it like a man,stop denying what is the historical truth of the matter,and we might get somewhere...
If you don't believe me,ask your mate GR!

[Piratis]

The way your minority gained those unfair rights was at gunpoint. You collaborated with foreign imperialists and started killing innocent Cypriots in order to blackmail and force us to abandon our legitimate rights and to accept for you to have those ill received gains and privilages on our expense.

When the elected president of Cyprus proposed democratic reforms you steped down from the government and you resumed the conflict.

[BirKibrisli]

The way your minority gained those unfair rights was at gunpoint. You collaborated with foreign imperialists and started killing innocent Cypriots in order to blackmail and force us to abandon our legitimate rights and to accept for you to have those ill received gains and privilages on our expense.

When the elected president of Cyprus proposed democratic reforms you steped down from the government and you resumed the conflict.

Sure...Quick...Look out the window,Piratis..You see the flying pigs???

[DT.]

That private property ownership does not mean country ownership the % does not necessarily equal the other as many GCs claim that we are only entitiled to land proportional to our population % .

So millitary invasions can eliminate other country's sovereignty rights then.

You cannot talk about sovereignty rights in a country where one community has been robbed of their constitutional rights at gunpoint...Time you faced this fact,DT...The GCs were the original violaters of the sovereignty of Cyprus,when they treacherously plotted to achieve Enosis with Greece...Accept it,take it like a man,stop denying what is the historical truth of the matter,and we might get somewhere...
If you don't believe me,ask your mate GR!

You don't switch a country's soveregnty on and off like a game of koumeres Bir. Makarios proposed 13 amendments. Turkey pleaded with the TC's to return to govt to discuss. TC ministersd left behind documents with instructions from Kutchuk and Denktash regarding the sabotage of the Republic in favour of Taksim.

Makarios proposed these amendments when the tc's paralysed the govt and drove it to bankruptcy by refusing to vote for the budget.

With Denktash leading you since, how do you keep a striaght face when you throw the blame on the GC's?

My side where by no means angels Bir but get your head around the alterior motives your side had since the inception of this republic and we might actually get somewhere.

[Bananiot]

And the constant talk by Makarios and other government officials that our struggle did not end in 1960 and that the national aspirations will be realised at all cost and no matter what the minority did, surely did not help the ordinary TC put its trust in the RoC which was seen by them as just a vehicle to bring enosis from the back door.

In 1960 we could have turned the ordinary TC's into staunch supporters of the RoC, but instead, we answered TMT's provocations with a murder barrage on ordinary TC's. We are solely responsible for the alienation of the TC's who willingly sent themselves into enclaves and even refused to listen to the voice of wisdom represented by President Inonu.

The alterior motives you write about DT, were fostered by the TC extremists and unforunately by the official government and President of our side who did not even pretend to hide their steadfast attachment to enosis.

[DT.]

And the constant talk by Makarios and other government officials that our struggle did not end in 1960 and that the national aspirations will be realised at all cost and no matter what the minority did, surely did not help the ordinary TC put its trust in the RoC which was seen by them as just a vehicle to bring enosis from the back door.

true....it was harmful talk.

In 1960 we could have turned the ordinary TC's into staunch supporters of the RoC, but instead, we answered TMT's provocations with a murder barrage on ordinary TC's. We are solely responsible for the alienation of the TC's who willingly sent themselves into enclaves and even refused to listen to the voice of wisdom represented by President Inonu.

interesting view. You paint a picture of the tc community Bananiot that is easily led, uneducated, cannot think for itself, can hold no responsibilities and cannot be held for responsible for anything.

They didn't negotiate with Makarios for the proposals, they didn't listen to Inonu when he told them to get back into govt....so its everyone but the TC's fault? Can I remind you Bananiot, this community that has fashioned itself into a "state" now and thinks it can run itself...has its own leaders, thinkers, extremists, liberals and plain idiots.

I consider it an insult to treat and talk about this community like it was some kind of spoilt infant that had no responsibilities and no reprecussions. Denktash and Kutchuk would have kept digging and digging...had it not been the 13 points another opportunity would have been found.

The alterior motives you write about DT, were fostered by the TC extremists and unforunately by the official government and President of our side who did not even pretend to hide their steadfast attachment to enosis.

after the republic any attachment to enosis or taksim is treason to the state as far as I'm concerned.

[denizaksulu]

The way your minority gained those unfair rights was at gunpoint. You collaborated with foreign imperialists and started killing innocent Cypriots in order to blackmail and force us to abandon our legitimate rights and to accept for you to have those ill received gains and privilages on our expense.

When the elected president of Cyprus proposed democratic reforms you steped down from the government and you resumed the conflict.

[denizaksulu]

That private property ownership does not mean country ownership the % does not necessarily equal the other as many GCs claim that we are only entitiled to land proportional to our population % .

So millitary invasions can eliminate other country's sovereignty rights then.

You cannot talk about sovereignty rights in a country where one community has been robbed of their constitutional rights at gunpoint...Time you faced this fact,DT...The GCs were the original violaters of the sovereignty of Cyprus,when they treacherously plotted to achieve Enosis with Greece...Accept it,take it like a man,stop denying what is the historical truth of the matter,and we might get somewhere...
If you don't believe me,ask your mate GR!

You don't switch a country's soveregnty on and off like a game of koumeres Bir. Makarios proposed 13 amendments. Turkey pleaded with the TC's to return to govt to discuss. TC ministersd left behind documents with instructions from Kutchuk and Denktash regarding the sabotage of the Republic in favour of Taksim.

Makarios proposed these amendments when the tc's paralysed the govt and drove it to bankruptcy by refusing to vote for the budget.

With Denktash leading you since, how do you keep a striaght face when you throw the blame on the GC's?

My side where by no means angels Bir but get your head around the alterior motives your side had since the inception of this republic and we might actually get somewhere.

Any chance these documents are provided or links there to? This point has been mentioned in the last few years on the CF but as far as I know no one has provided 'credible' links or proof. I am not saying they are lies - I like credibility - like everybody else.

Thank you