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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 11, 2010 7:46 pm

How exactly do you propose to ensure no guarantee that TCs are treated the same as GCs when we know the majority being GCs are not to be trusted what will you do when things go wrong and we start to suffer injustice?
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Postby YFred » Tue May 11, 2010 7:49 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
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BirKibrisli wrote:It seems that once Greeks touch anything (like Midas???) it should stay Greek forever..Hundreds of years of Ottoman rule can just be wiped out,together with all those Cypriots who descended from the Ottomans,in some form or other...Mind-blowing arrogance...Just goes to show what blind,unthinking,fanatical nationalism can do to people who could otherwise pass as intelligent, sensible individuals on most aspects of life....So,Piratis can expect the TCs to forgo their own right to self-determination,and fall into line agreeing to be second class citizens in their own homeland at best,and genocide victims at worst...It is very sad really,to know that there are thousands of Piratis' to every Bananiot,every miltiades,every Pyro,and even every DT... :cry:

Noooooooooooooooooooooo don't say that, not every DT, shit. I though there was only one DT.


There is only one DT...And he is a reasonable person with lots of integrity..He just finds himself in bad company sometimes,and can be easily influenced when drunk... :wink:

I see said the blind man. So that's 99.5% of the time then?
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 11, 2010 7:54 pm

By the way, there is still a Greek minority in Egypt, which still lives there since the time when Alexander conquered that territory. That is the Greek analogue to the Turkish minorities in the territories formerly occupied by the Ottomans. And another analogue are the whites of South Africa.

Minorities are created in different ways. E.g. the Aboriginals, the Native Americans and the Greeks in Asia Minor became a minority when their land was invaded by foreigners who later overwhelmed their own local population. The blacks in USA and several European countries were made a minority by forcefully transferring them to those territories as slaves. And then minorities like TCS, Muslims in Greece or Bulgaria, Greeks in Egypt, Whites in South Africa, became a minority by conquering foreign lands.

All kinds of minorities have the same rights, and that is to be equal citizens without any discrimination, plus possibly some minority rights. Your idea that TCs are somehow a special case of a minority and they deserve more than any other on the expense of the human and democratic rights of the majority is an arrogant position that is at the root of the Cyprus Problem, and it is similar to how the White minority was thinking of themselves in South Africa of Apartheid.
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 11, 2010 7:57 pm

Viewpoint wrote:How exactly do you propose to ensure no guarantee that TCs are treated the same as GCs when we know the majority being GCs are not to be trusted what will you do when things go wrong and we start to suffer injustice?


How do you guarantee this for the Greek minority in Turkey or any other minority in any other country? We can apply the exact same guarantees for the Turkish minority in Cyprus.
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Postby YFred » Tue May 11, 2010 8:05 pm

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:How exactly do you propose to ensure no guarantee that TCs are treated the same as GCs when we know the majority being GCs are not to be trusted what will you do when things go wrong and we start to suffer injustice?


How do you guarantee this for the Greek minority in Turkey or any other minority in any other country? We can apply the exact same guarantees for the Turkish minority in Cyprus.

Piratis you do that in the southern lands and we'll do it in the northern lands. So it will actually be done in both parts, just to satisfy you. How is that?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 11, 2010 8:19 pm

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:How exactly do you propose to ensure no guarantee that TCs are treated the same as GCs when we know the majority being GCs are not to be trusted what will you do when things go wrong and we start to suffer injustice?


How do you guarantee this for the Greek minority in Turkey or any other minority in any other country? We can apply the exact same guarantees for the Turkish minority in Cyprus.


these other countries do not concern me as i do not live there nor do they have GCs with a bad track record when sharing with TCs.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue May 11, 2010 9:16 pm

Viewpoint wrote:How exactly do you propose to ensure no guarantee that TCs are treated the same as GCs when we know the majority being GCs are not to be trusted what will you do when things go wrong and we start to suffer injustice?


Meanwhile, Turkish Cypriot nationalism arose in the 1940s,
resisting the claim for Enosis. Dr. Fazil Kuchuk (Fazýl Küçük) led the "Cyprus is
Turkey" party, which variably argued that Cyprus should continue to be a colony or be
returned to Turkey or be partitioned (taksim).1

1 Küçük, 10. Kuchuk argued that the Greek Cypriots had been ungrateful to the Turks, who protected the
rights of the Orthodox church during the Ottoman era. The Turks had no trust in the Greeks and could not
trust to live under their administration.



Same slogan, from as early as the 50's huh!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Tue May 11, 2010 9:20 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:How exactly do you propose to ensure no guarantee that TCs are treated the same as GCs when we know the majority being GCs are not to be trusted what will you do when things go wrong and we start to suffer injustice?


Meanwhile, Turkish Cypriot nationalism arose in the 1940s,
resisting the claim for Enosis. Dr. Fazil Kuchuk (Fazýl Küçük) led the "Cyprus is
Turkey" party, which variably argued that Cyprus should continue to be a colony or be
returned to Turkey or be partitioned (taksim).1

1 Küçük, 10. Kuchuk argued that the Greek Cypriots had been ungrateful to the Turks, who protected the
rights of the Orthodox church during the Ottoman era. The Turks had no trust in the Greeks and could not
trust to live under their administration.



Same slogan, from as early as the 50's huh!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

... and how many TCs followed this man?
What exactly was his party membership before Turkallos got involved in 1955?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue May 11, 2010 9:25 pm

YFred wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:How exactly do you propose to ensure no guarantee that TCs are treated the same as GCs when we know the majority being GCs are not to be trusted what will you do when things go wrong and we start to suffer injustice?


Meanwhile, Turkish Cypriot nationalism arose in the 1940s,
resisting the claim for Enosis. Dr. Fazil Kuchuk (Fazýl Küçük) led the "Cyprus is
Turkey" party, which variably argued that Cyprus should continue to be a colony or be
returned to Turkey or be partitioned (taksim).1

1 Küçük, 10. Kuchuk argued that the Greek Cypriots had been ungrateful to the Turks, who protected the
rights of the Orthodox church during the Ottoman era. The Turks had no trust in the Greeks and could not
trust to live under their administration.



Same slogan, from as early as the 50's huh!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

... and how many TCs followed this man?
What exactly was his party membership before Turkallos got involved in 1955?


He served as vice president so he got the majority of TC votes :wink:

Don't tell me now Kutchuk was som "nobody". Halkin Sesi is his no?
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Postby YFred » Tue May 11, 2010 9:27 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:How exactly do you propose to ensure no guarantee that TCs are treated the same as GCs when we know the majority being GCs are not to be trusted what will you do when things go wrong and we start to suffer injustice?


Meanwhile, Turkish Cypriot nationalism arose in the 1940s,
resisting the claim for Enosis. Dr. Fazil Kuchuk (Fazýl Küçük) led the "Cyprus is
Turkey" party, which variably argued that Cyprus should continue to be a colony or be
returned to Turkey or be partitioned (taksim).1

1 Küçük, 10. Kuchuk argued that the Greek Cypriots had been ungrateful to the Turks, who protected the
rights of the Orthodox church during the Ottoman era. The Turks had no trust in the Greeks and could not
trust to live under their administration.



Same slogan, from as early as the 50's huh!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

... and how many TCs followed this man?
What exactly was his party membership before Turkallos got involved in 1955?


He served as vice president so he got the majority of TC votes :wink:

Don't mix the two. I am talking about before 55 before turkallos decided to poke their hooter.
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