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[Tim Drayton]

So the Turkish community in Cyprus bears a collective guilt for the Ottoman invasion of Cyprus. Fair enough. The Turkish community in Cyprus, by definition, comprises all of its members. If that community bears a collective guilt, then it follows that each member of that community, and simply by virtue of being a member of that community, bears an automatic, individual guilt for the Ottoman invasion of Cyprus. Logically, each Turkish Cypriot is guilty the moment they are born. This is a racist ideology. That is how it works in my mind. If I am stupid, so be it.

I am sorry if you think that I have insulted you and if you could tell me what I have said to insult you, I will apologise.

[Mikiko]

Drousiotis is a very respected journalist . He is not paid to write what you think but what he thinks and thats a big difference. Those who treaten him deserve to be stoned to death for punishment as this is the type of democracy they are used to.

[Pyrpolizer]

Btw Bananiot Tim also said that he thinks Copperline is a TC. I haven't seen you putting words in his mouth like the ones you put in mine, of the kind " thus his views are biased towards the Turkish side and we should noy take him seriously"


My conclussion, and yes that is a definite conclussion is that you are a BIASED,and VERY INSULTING person, using the WORST type of labels against people like "fascists" etc...

[Paphitis]

Drousiotis is a very respected journalist . He is not paid to write what you think but what he thinks and thats a big difference. Those who treaten him deserve to be stoned to death for punishment as this is the type of democracy they are used to.

Judging by what most people say about Makarios Drousiotis in Cyprus, I am inclined to disagree. Not many people take him seriously, but he is entitled to his opinions as the RoC is a democratic country which gives him the right to write whatever he likes just like the owners of http://christofias-watch.blogspot.com/ who have the exact same democratic rights protected by the RoC constitution.

[Get Real!]

Drousiotis is a very respected journalist . He is not paid to write what you think but what he thinks and thats a big difference. Those who treaten him deserve to be stoned to death for punishment as this is the type of democracy they are used to.

Not really… he just likes to be in the spotlight so whenever people forget about him he creates a little incident to be in the spotlight again; he’s a strong believer of any publicity is better than no publicity!

[halil]

''FREE AREA'' democracy how dare u compare them with '' OCCUPIED AREA''.......................

''FREE AREA'' freedom

''FREE AREA'' freedom of speech ..........''FREE AREA'' ruled by civilians not by ARMY

What a boy what a fart....fart ..........cart cart.....


IF U SAY....WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR..............U ARE A GOOD BOY

GOOD BOY........... BE GOOD BOY ..........I WILL LOVE U FOREVER

[Piratis]

So the Turkish community in Cyprus bears a collective guilt for the Ottoman invasion of Cyprus. Fair enough. The Turkish community in Cyprus, by definition, comprises all of its members. If that community bears a collective guilt, then it follows that each member of that community, and simply by virtue of being a member of that community, bears an automatic, individual guilt for the Ottoman invasion of Cyprus. Logically, each Turkish Cypriot is guilty the moment they are born. This is a racist ideology. That is how it works in my mind. If I am stupid, so be it.

I am sorry if you think that I have insulted you and if you could tell me what I have said to insult you, I will apologise.

Point me where I said anything about "collective guilt".

I repeat: So I didn't blame Bir for anything his ancestors did. I simply reminded him of these facts, and beyond that if he doesn't like the fact that he was born on a Greek island then he can blame his own ancestors, not us for being what we have always been.

So if say you have children in Cyprus, who will be born Cypriot Citizens but will not belong in the same ethnicity as the majority of the population, would they have the right to demand from us to change our identity and the identity of our island because they don't like it?

Should they tell us that if we want to continue to be Greek, as we have been for 1000s of years, we should move out of Cyprus and leave Cyprus to them? Can they blame us for being what we have been for millennia?

If they don't like the fact that they were born on a Greek island living among a majority of Greeks can they blame us for this? If they have to blame somebody that somebody is only their parents, since if their parents stayed in England then they wouldn't have the "bad luck" of been born on a Greek island living among Greeks.

[Pyrpolizer]

So the Turkish community in Cyprus bears a collective guilt for the Ottoman invasion of Cyprus. Fair enough. The Turkish community in Cyprus, by definition, comprises all of its members. If that community bears a collective guilt, then it follows that each member of that community, and simply by virtue of being a member of that community, bears an automatic, individual guilt for the Ottoman invasion of Cyprus. Logically, each Turkish Cypriot is guilty the moment they are born. This is a racist ideology. That is how it works in my mind. If I am stupid, so be it.

I am sorry if you think that I have insulted you and if you could tell me what I have said to insult you, I will apologise.

Tim sorry but don't the TCs and Turkey applied that collective guilt theory to the GCs for the actions of the few? Don't they still do it even in this forum by saying you killed us you attacked us etc. Don't GCs do it as well?
So why accuse Piratis only when everybody does it?

Racist might be, but hey we live in a racist world let's admit it

[Paphitis]

''FREE AREA'' democracy how dare u compare them with '' OCCUPIED AREA''.......................

''FREE AREA'' freedom

''FREE AREA'' freedom of speech ..........''FREE AREA'' ruled by civilians not by ARMY

What a boy what a fart....fart ..........cart cart.....


IF U SAY....WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR..............U ARE A GOOD BOY

GOOD BOY........... BE GOOD BOY ..........I WILL LOVE U FOREVER

What the fuck are you on about? The white van is on its way Halil!

A RoC hospital bed and straight jacket awaits you. Our GC nurses are very good looking as well!

[vaughanwilliams]

I am not trying to de-hellenise Cyprus...You are doing a great job of that,Piratis...One day you will realise it but it will be too late...Your ENOSIS dream cost you 37% of Cyprus and brought Turkey to the island...Your insistance that Cyprus is Greek will make sure Turkey stays and at least 37% of Cyprus will be totally Turkified..I am helpless to do anything about that..No Turkish Cypriot will take up arms against the Turkish Army to drive Turkey out...And what for? To make Cyprus a Greek island to please bloodyminded, reactionary, Greek nationalists like yourself???
You are bonkers if you expect that...Stop saying Cyprus is a Greek island...That is as stupid as saying Australia is a big British Island...Start saying Cyprus is an island where the majority of her citizens are of Greek ethnic background...Then repent your past ENOSIS actions,declare Never Again to want to give my country away to anybody,stop calling Turkish Cypriots the "Muslim minority" and I might start thinking you are serious about your democracy and human rights "argument"...Till then you will stay a dangerous,fanatical Greek nationalist who wants to extract revenge on my community for the real or imaginary sins of the Ottomans starting from 1571...And nobody will want to live anywhere near you...

Nobody invited you to live anywhere near us. Turks came here on their own will and the least you can do is start respecting the majority of the population of this island, something which you never did.

You can take your threats elsewhere. I am not going to hide or change my identity in order to save myself from the punishment of the Turks. Those Cypriots who were thinking like that are "Turks" now, ask YFred.

I don't want any revenge, what I demand is the 100% of my human and democratic rights. But yes, we could be dangerous to those who deny these rights to us. Stop being a disrespectful, stop violating our human and democratic rights and you have nothing to fear from revolting Cypriots.

You said it, not me.