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[Pyrpolizer]

The mass murders in Cyprus of 1000s and 10s of thousands of people at a time were committed by the Turkish invaders. People who collaborate with the invaders are traitors and they deserve to be treated accordingly.

I do not support the murder of any innocents, but the punishment of traitors who are anything but innocent. I support our right to protest against the invaders and their collaborators and demand justice and the liberation of our island.

You don't support the murder of innocents but you do support extra-judicial killings (you've just said so) you do support lynch mob justice (you've just said so), you do support vengeance killings of those who you disagree (you've just said so). And you Piratis speak of your support for human rights ! Human rights in your book spells self-interest, because when you advocate extra-judicial, lynch-mob, and vengeance killings, of necessity innocent people will be killed. In every one else's book that defines a fascist.

Apart from you advocating the casual breach of the most basic right to life, you also deny people a right to a fair trial - with you and your murderous friends acting as prosecution, judge, jury and executioner.

Yours is a disgraceful posting.

I do not support any of those things you filthy criminal invader.

What I support is to take those who collaborate with you to help you occupy our country and violate our human rights, take them to courts, and if found guilty of collaborating with the enemy in any way, execute them. Treason is one of the worst crimes for which the death penalty is the appropriate punishment, especially in times of war.

Traitors are not "innocent", far from it. I would never support the murder of any innocent. This is what you do.

"Filthy, criminal invader"? Well, well, well. A good of example of the point I just made to you on another thread:

"Nobody is helping Turkey more than died-in-the-wool bigots like yourself, but you will never understand that."

Why don't you tell me in what way I am helping Turkey?

You, if I am not mistaken, are addressing Turkish Cypriots, en masse, as "filthy, criminal invaders." Turkish Cypriots, on hearing this kind of comment, will conclude that they do not wish to risk their lives by reuniting with such rabid , Turk-hating fascists and would prefer to have the Turkish Army there to protect them in their statelet so that they can sleep safely at nights. This suits Turkey's long-term goals. Once partition has become solidified and the north has been turned into a de facto province of Turkey, perhaps Turkey will send you a medal for all of your good services.

My comment was directed to Cooperline and to people who share his criminal mentality and not "en mass".

The fascists are those who support the illegal occupation of our lands and we of course hate such fascists.

Most TCs will always be on the side of Turkey regardless of what we do or say just like they have been since 1571. The reason is that in this way they can have gains on the expense of the local population. The Ottomans had divided the population into Christians and Muslims, giving to the Muslims far more rights. The same divisions were forced on Cyprus with the 1960 constitution, again to benefit the Muslim minority on the expense of the majority of the population. And the same thing they want to continue doing in the future.

The reason is obvious: Turkey uses force to take away our rights and give privileges to their Muslim minority on our island, and in return this Muslim minority serves the Turkish interests in Cyprus. They are both partners in the crime against the Cypriot people.

We have witnessed their crime for over 400 years, and their behavior is not related with what Piratis says in a forum in 2010. So stop repeating the lame excuses of the Turks.

Sorry, but that would only make sense if CopperLine had said something in support of the Turkish invasion in the post which you were replying to. Since he didn't, your answer (rather than, as you allege in your crude stereotypical reply, CopperLine) simply does not wash. I said you would never understand, and you won't.

Who cares. I dined this lunchtime at the Turkish Cypriot owned restaurant in Limassol. Apart from me, there were about six other customers there. They were all working class Greek Cypriots. I could see that they were all regular customers who were on very friendly terms with the owner, whom they kept addressing as Αïχαν (Ayhan), so they must have been aware of his ethnicity. Is the reality in Cyprus what I witnessed first hand this lunchtime, or the bickering that goes on here?

Cooperline wrote 100s of posts. I didn't wait for that 1 post of him to understand what he is all about and that he supports the "trnc" and the Turkish occupation of Cyprus, making him therefore an enemy of Cyprus.

The Turkish Cypriot that you are talking about above I am sure respects the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people and he is not trying to find excuses to support illegalities and human rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people. So why shouldn't GCs be in friendly terms with him?

I repeat: Our enemies are those who support the Turkification of the north part of our island and the violation of our human and democratic rights regardless of their ethnicity. Similarly those who support our human rights and our right to freely rule our own island in a democratic way are our friends, again regardless of their ethnicity.

Piratis I think you have been terribly unfair to Copperline.

In this very topic he corrected your own sayings telling you it WAS NOT a "peace operation" it was AN INVASION.

a few lines later he told you that Turkey invaded in 1974 using the pretext that she will protect the TCs.

For as long as I remember Copperline's post they are all like that.

Sometimes he goes one step further presenting us what legal or other arguments the TCs put forward in international fora, because they themselves have their arguments too you know, the CP is not a totally black and white issue. What's wrong with that, when in most times Copper is just trying to put some light on issues rather than support them.

I could go back and give you examples if you like, there are some in the post from which I took the references for "invasion" and "pretext" in this very topic if you like to ckeck it yourself...

[Tim Drayton]

The mass murders in Cyprus of 1000s and 10s of thousands of people at a time were committed by the Turkish invaders. People who collaborate with the invaders are traitors and they deserve to be treated accordingly.

I do not support the murder of any innocents, but the punishment of traitors who are anything but innocent. I support our right to protest against the invaders and their collaborators and demand justice and the liberation of our island.

You don't support the murder of innocents but you do support extra-judicial killings (you've just said so) you do support lynch mob justice (you've just said so), you do support vengeance killings of those who you disagree (you've just said so). And you Piratis speak of your support for human rights ! Human rights in your book spells self-interest, because when you advocate extra-judicial, lynch-mob, and vengeance killings, of necessity innocent people will be killed. In every one else's book that defines a fascist.

Apart from you advocating the casual breach of the most basic right to life, you also deny people a right to a fair trial - with you and your murderous friends acting as prosecution, judge, jury and executioner.

Yours is a disgraceful posting.

I do not support any of those things you filthy criminal invader.

What I support is to take those who collaborate with you to help you occupy our country and violate our human rights, take them to courts, and if found guilty of collaborating with the enemy in any way, execute them. Treason is one of the worst crimes for which the death penalty is the appropriate punishment, especially in times of war.

Traitors are not "innocent", far from it. I would never support the murder of any innocent. This is what you do.

"Filthy, criminal invader"? Well, well, well. A good of example of the point I just made to you on another thread:

"Nobody is helping Turkey more than died-in-the-wool bigots like yourself, but you will never understand that."

Why don't you tell me in what way I am helping Turkey?

You, if I am not mistaken, are addressing Turkish Cypriots, en masse, as "filthy, criminal invaders." Turkish Cypriots, on hearing this kind of comment, will conclude that they do not wish to risk their lives by reuniting with such rabid , Turk-hating fascists and would prefer to have the Turkish Army there to protect them in their statelet so that they can sleep safely at nights. This suits Turkey's long-term goals. Once partition has become solidified and the north has been turned into a de facto province of Turkey, perhaps Turkey will send you a medal for all of your good services.

My comment was directed to Cooperline and to people who share his criminal mentality and not "en mass".

The fascists are those who support the illegal occupation of our lands and we of course hate such fascists.

Most TCs will always be on the side of Turkey regardless of what we do or say just like they have been since 1571. The reason is that in this way they can have gains on the expense of the local population. The Ottomans had divided the population into Christians and Muslims, giving to the Muslims far more rights. The same divisions were forced on Cyprus with the 1960 constitution, again to benefit the Muslim minority on the expense of the majority of the population. And the same thing they want to continue doing in the future.

The reason is obvious: Turkey uses force to take away our rights and give privileges to their Muslim minority on our island, and in return this Muslim minority serves the Turkish interests in Cyprus. They are both partners in the crime against the Cypriot people.

We have witnessed their crime for over 400 years, and their behavior is not related with what Piratis says in a forum in 2010. So stop repeating the lame excuses of the Turks.

Sorry, but that would only make sense if CopperLine had said something in support of the Turkish invasion in the post which you were replying to. Since he didn't, your answer (rather than, as you allege in your crude stereotypical reply, CopperLine) simply does not wash. I said you would never understand, and you won't.

Who cares. I dined this lunchtime at the Turkish Cypriot owned restaurant in Limassol. Apart from me, there were about six other customers there. They were all working class Greek Cypriots. I could see that they were all regular customers who were on very friendly terms with the owner, whom they kept addressing as Αïχαν (Ayhan), so they must have been aware of his ethnicity. Is the reality in Cyprus what I witnessed first hand this lunchtime, or the bickering that goes on here?

Cooperline wrote 100s of posts. I didn't wait for that 1 post of him to understand what he is all about and that he supports the "trnc" and the Turkish occupation of Cyprus, making him therefore an enemy of Cyprus.

The Turkish Cypriot that you are talking about above I am sure respects the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people and he is not trying to find excuses to support illegalities and human rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people. So why shouldn't GCs be in friendly terms with him?

I repeat: Our enemies are those who support the Turkification of the north part of our island and the violation of our human and democratic rights regardless of their ethnicity. Similarly those who support our human rights and our right to freely rule our own island in a democratic way are our friends, again regardless of their ethnicity.

One minute, file mou.
You have just told Birkibrisli that he is guilty because
"you knew that you were coming to a Greek island when you first came here".
I take this to mean that Turkish Cypriots bear a collective guilt the moment they are born for being the descendents of people who came to Cyprus "knowing that it was a Greek island", a pretty absurd accusation really, especially considering that:

1- A lot of the people who came from Anatolia to Cyprus were forcibly settled there by the Ottoman authorites so they came against their will and thus cannot, posthumously, be held culpable for that act, and

2- As you have tirelessly told us in the past, most of the people who today call themselves 'Turkish Cypriots' were, in your opinion, Greeks who converted to Islam, and as such do not descend from people who were settled on Cyprus by the Ottoman authorities (so why are these people guilty at birth, I wonder?)

Even so, let us for the sake of argument accept your thesis that all Turkish Cypriots at birth are guilty of being 'dirty, criminal invaders' because the Ottoman authorites settled, or may have settled, their distant ancestors on the island, you now tell me, with reference to the chap called Ayhan who runs a restaurant in Limassol (maybe I shouldn't have told you that! Perhaps the place will be torched tonight by a band of fascists):

"The Turkish Cypriot that you are talking about above I am sure respects the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people and he is not trying to find excuses to support illegalities and human rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people. So why shouldn't GCs be in friendly terms with him?"

Friend, either all Turkish Cypriots are automatically guilty on birth, or they are not. Which is it to be? I spot a glaring contradiction in your arguments.

Your bitter, twisted racism which defies all rational, logical analysis is a disgrace to humanity.

Incidentally, I have just heard a piece on CyBC television about Greek language courses which are being organised by one of the Turkish Cypriot teachers unions. It seems that about 300 Turkish Cypriot teachers are currently participating in these courses. Piratis, give us a further insight into the mindset of a bigot. What dark, evil purpose are these people learning Greek for?

[YFred]

Tim let me inform you of a small matter of GC language courses run by the roc in south nicosia for the benefit of TCs, for which one member of the YFred clan took up and learned how to read, write and speak GC for the past few years. Perhaps we are planning to take over cyprus and these people will be needed to give orders.
Sleep easy Piratis, the time is very near now.

[Pyrpolizer]

The mass murders in Cyprus of 1000s and 10s of thousands of people at a time were committed by the Turkish invaders. People who collaborate with the invaders are traitors and they deserve to be treated accordingly.

I do not support the murder of any innocents, but the punishment of traitors who are anything but innocent. I support our right to protest against the invaders and their collaborators and demand justice and the liberation of our island.

You don't support the murder of innocents but you do support extra-judicial killings (you've just said so) you do support lynch mob justice (you've just said so), you do support vengeance killings of those who you disagree (you've just said so). And you Piratis speak of your support for human rights ! Human rights in your book spells self-interest, because when you advocate extra-judicial, lynch-mob, and vengeance killings, of necessity innocent people will be killed. In every one else's book that defines a fascist.

Apart from you advocating the casual breach of the most basic right to life, you also deny people a right to a fair trial - with you and your murderous friends acting as prosecution, judge, jury and executioner.

Yours is a disgraceful posting.

I do not support any of those things you filthy criminal invader.

What I support is to take those who collaborate with you to help you occupy our country and violate our human rights, take them to courts, and if found guilty of collaborating with the enemy in any way, execute them. Treason is one of the worst crimes for which the death penalty is the appropriate punishment, especially in times of war.

Traitors are not "innocent", far from it. I would never support the murder of any innocent. This is what you do.

"Filthy, criminal invader"? Well, well, well. A good of example of the point I just made to you on another thread:

"Nobody is helping Turkey more than died-in-the-wool bigots like yourself, but you will never understand that."

Why don't you tell me in what way I am helping Turkey?

You, if I am not mistaken, are addressing Turkish Cypriots, en masse, as "filthy, criminal invaders." Turkish Cypriots, on hearing this kind of comment, will conclude that they do not wish to risk their lives by reuniting with such rabid , Turk-hating fascists and would prefer to have the Turkish Army there to protect them in their statelet so that they can sleep safely at nights. This suits Turkey's long-term goals. Once partition has become solidified and the north has been turned into a de facto province of Turkey, perhaps Turkey will send you a medal for all of your good services.

My comment was directed to Cooperline and to people who share his criminal mentality and not "en mass".

The fascists are those who support the illegal occupation of our lands and we of course hate such fascists.

Most TCs will always be on the side of Turkey regardless of what we do or say just like they have been since 1571. The reason is that in this way they can have gains on the expense of the local population. The Ottomans had divided the population into Christians and Muslims, giving to the Muslims far more rights. The same divisions were forced on Cyprus with the 1960 constitution, again to benefit the Muslim minority on the expense of the majority of the population. And the same thing they want to continue doing in the future.

The reason is obvious: Turkey uses force to take away our rights and give privileges to their Muslim minority on our island, and in return this Muslim minority serves the Turkish interests in Cyprus. They are both partners in the crime against the Cypriot people.

We have witnessed their crime for over 400 years, and their behavior is not related with what Piratis says in a forum in 2010. So stop repeating the lame excuses of the Turks.

Sorry, but that would only make sense if CopperLine had said something in support of the Turkish invasion in the post which you were replying to. Since he didn't, your answer (rather than, as you allege in your crude stereotypical reply, CopperLine) simply does not wash. I said you would never understand, and you won't.

Who cares. I dined this lunchtime at the Turkish Cypriot owned restaurant in Limassol. Apart from me, there were about six other customers there. They were all working class Greek Cypriots. I could see that they were all regular customers who were on very friendly terms with the owner, whom they kept addressing as Αïχαν (Ayhan), so they must have been aware of his ethnicity. Is the reality in Cyprus what I witnessed first hand this lunchtime, or the bickering that goes on here?

Cooperline wrote 100s of posts. I didn't wait for that 1 post of him to understand what he is all about and that he supports the "trnc" and the Turkish occupation of Cyprus, making him therefore an enemy of Cyprus.

The Turkish Cypriot that you are talking about above I am sure respects the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people and he is not trying to find excuses to support illegalities and human rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people. So why shouldn't GCs be in friendly terms with him?

I repeat: Our enemies are those who support the Turkification of the north part of our island and the violation of our human and democratic rights regardless of their ethnicity. Similarly those who support our human rights and our right to freely rule our own island in a democratic way are our friends, again regardless of their ethnicity.

One minute, file mou.
You have just told Birkibrisli that he is guilty because
"you knew that you were coming to a Greek island when you first came here".
I take this to mean that Turkish Cypriots bear a collective guilt the moment they are born for being the descendents of people who came to Cyprus "knowing that it was a Greek island", a pretty absurd accusation really, especially considering that:

1- A lot of the people who came from Anatolia to Cyprus were forcibly settled there by the Ottoman authorites so they came against their will and thus cannot, posthumously, be held culpable for that act, and

2- As you have tirelessly told us in the past, most of the people who today call themselves 'Turkish Cypriots' were, in your opinion, Greeks who converted to Islam, and as such do not descend from people who were settled on Cyprus by the Ottoman authorities (so why are these people guilty at birth, I wonder?)

Even so, let us for the sake of argument accept your thesis that all Turkish Cypriots at birth are guilty of being 'dirty, criminal invaders' because the Ottoman authorites settled, or may have settled, their distant ancestors on the island, you now tell me, with reference to the chap called Ayhan who runs a restaurant in Limassol (maybe I shouldn't have told you that! Perhaps the place will be torched tonight by a band of fascists):

"The Turkish Cypriot that you are talking about above I am sure respects the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people and he is not trying to find excuses to support illegalities and human rights violations against 100s of thousands of innocent people. So why shouldn't GCs be in friendly terms with him?"

Friend, either all Turkish Cypriots are automatically guilty on birth, or they are not. Which is it to be? I spot a glaring contradiction in your arguments.

Your bitter, twisted racism which defies all rational, logical analysis is a disgrace to humanity.

Incidentally, I have just heard a piece on CyBC television about Greek language courses which are being organised by one of the Turkish Cypriot teachers unions. It seems that about 300 Turkish Cypriot teachers are currently participating in these courses. Piratis, give us a further insight into the mindset of a bigot. What dark, evil purpose are these people learning Greek for?

Absolutely no problem. Piratis lives in Limassol you know,and I guarantee you next weekend he will be there with his woman eating shish Kebab.

[Bananiot]

Come on Pyrpolyser, this is the same man that said that he does not want to befriend Turkish Cypriots because one day he will be called upon to shoot them. This is a sick person through and through with a simplistic attitude towards a complicated problem.

[Oracle]

I thought Bananiot had the simple answer. Give the north to the Turks because we were bad!

[Bananiot]

I was thinking on the lines I would rather give you to the Turks but I hold back in case you liked it.

[Oracle]

I was thinking on the lines I would rather give you to the Turks but I hold back in case you liked it.

Well, you have first hand experience of how enjoyable that is!

[Bananiot]

I am in a generous mood. You can have the last word.

[Oracle]

OK

Maybe your mouth is full!