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[Bananiot]

Well, in my village, the cream of the youth left in 1957-1959. I can count at least 6 from my family and at least one person per family. Even whole families chose to leave. The wife of Shellies, brutally murdered by EOKA in 1958, went to the UK with her 5 young children. In nearby Koma tou Yialou, the same story. Both villages were not mixed.

Nikitas, I said persecutions and poverty, didn't I?

[Oracle]

What about the thousands of people that left during the late 50's to avoid getting a bullet in the back from EOKA murderers?

I don't know any from the thousands in London, who pervade my past and present world, who would cite this as a serious reason they left Cyprus!

[Hatter]

I have no idea what you are talking about Hatter. Have you really read what I wrote? Did you see this?

I believe that Omer Seyhan, probably has no such agenda.

You know nothing about the reasons so many thousands of young Cypriots left Cyprus in the late 50's. Your hypothesis that people simply left their mixed villages in order to overcome certain burdens imposed by the colonial power is baseless and stupid to say the least. Most of the people that left were people targeted by EOKA and TMT and some of the poorest people that could not make ends meet in Cyprus. That is why, in the UK, where I lived and worked for the best years of my life, the vast majority of the Cypriot immigrants were from the left, Greek and Turkish Cypriots. They formed about 80% of the community and they sustained newspapers such "VIMA" and "Paroikiaki Haravgi" for decades.

Did you read what you wrote? You wrote:

Cyprus has a tradition of looking after its "xenos" and we should be proud of it. I believe that Omer Seyhan, probably has no such agenda.

As for my hypothesis, it is not as baseless as your assertion that most people who left in the late fifities did so because they were targeted by EOKA and TMT. Be that as it may, one can only wonder why you only mentioned EOKA in your first contribution to this thread.

[Paphitis]

I have no idea what you are talking about Hatter. Have you really read what I wrote? Did you see this?

I believe that Omer Seyhan, probably has no such agenda.

You know nothing about the reasons so many thousands of young Cypriots left Cyprus in the late 50's. Your hypothesis that people simply left their mixed villages in order to overcome certain burdens imposed by the colonial power is baseless and stupid to say the least. Most of the people that left were people targeted by EOKA and TMT and some of the poorest people that could not make ends meet in Cyprus. That is why, in the UK, where I lived and worked for the best years of my life, the vast majority of the Cypriot immigrants were from the left, Greek and Turkish Cypriots. They formed about 80% of the community and they sustained newspapers such "VIMA" and "Paroikiaki Haravgi" for decades.

I still haven't met one single Cypriot who states they left Cyprus because of EOKA. Most migrants lean towards the left, but there are many right wing migrants as well. Most who migrated in the 50s, did so for better opportunities, to escape poverty or leave British subjugation behind. No one ever mentions EOKA.

In fact, most Cypriots revere EOKA and its struggle. April commemorations are well attended by left leaning Cypriots as well. In fact, it is mostly left wing Cypriots who organize the memorial services within our Cypriot Community in Australia!

[Bananiot]

Hatter, you have fallen into the trap of not looking at the whole, but just a piece, of what I wrote. Look at it carefully.

I think we should be careful here not to become victims of the racist and xenophobic among us. Cyprus has a tradition of looking after its "xenos" and we should be proud of it. I believe that Omer Seyhan, probably has no such agenda.

OS has no such agenda, that is, to promote racism and xenophobia. Racism and xenophobia are the central parts of this thread and the ensuing debates and anyone with a grain of brain can understand what I wrote. Likewise, you do not seem to have the mental capacity to understad the rest of my post and stupidly you insinuate that I was being protective of TMT.

[mem-dvg]

Hi Omer

Just reading your post about cypriot identity. I dont mean to be negative but i dont really belive in a cypriot identity becuase if we were all cypriots and had some common ground we wouldnt be in situation we are currently in. The fact is there are two communities with two different religions and languages on the island.

Why cant we respect each other for who we are instead trying to deny people from there roots. The fact is the original turkish cypriots and greek cypriots were settlers hundreds of years ago from Turkey and greece so technically the only thing we are cypriot becuase we live on the island and some cultural similarities ethnically were are not.

This is just my opinion

[Get Real!]

The fact is the original turkish cypriots and greek cypriots were settlers hundreds of years ago from Turkey and greece so technically the only thing we are cypriot becuase we live on the island and some cultural similarities ethnically were are not.

So a bunch of settlers from Greece and Turkey came and found a vacant island did they?

This is just my opinion

It's a daft one...

[apc2010]

If more people spoke their minds on nationality in their own country without fear of a backlash , I am sure the world would be a happier place , all this PC b*ll*cks does my head in ,, say want you want ............

[humanist]

Omer ... you will find that a large number of Turkish speaking Cypriots do not wish to identify as Cypriots .... my experience on this forum is that they identify as Turks first then Cypriots. Watch out before you get scolded by those people.

[halil]

If there was no Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots ......... Why Makarios and Kucuk was signed the ''ROC'' constitution in 1960.

why the hell Cyprus constitution says about Greek and Turkish origins and also mentioned about other nationalities too.

why the talks goes on between two communities to find solution in Cyprus.

time showing us that if there will be any solution in Cyprus it will be between 2 communities and both communities will keep their national race but they will have single Cypriot ID's.