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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:15 am

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Get Real! wrote:And here was Bir all these years thinking that he was a new-age moderate!

You’ve burst his little bubble! Image


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Sorry Boomers... I gotta go to bed and I'm not risking chatting on the phone again till 6am! :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:16 am

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just remember never a quickie always a longie... :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:36 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
humanist wrote:all we hear is ......... partition partition partition form the TC side ......... when they start talking unity we may see progress.


People want to unite with those who show some understanding,respect and compassion for them...They want to go as far as away as possible from those who insult them,deny their pain and suffering,and show callous disregard for their fears and concerns...It is human nature... :(


Oh shut up you over-sensitive Aussie! What suffering? 40 years ago in Cyprus?

On the plus side, you've been living in a developed country for the past 40 years, with excellent health care, education, clean streets, laws that guarantee your rights and freedoms, your right to vote, a strong economy, freedom of movement and settlement....

You dont have to live in a military zone or worry about isolation caused by never-ending political problems.

You dont have to worry about settlers assimilating your native culture. Oh no, Australia gives you the freedom to be a fraudulent Turk and frequent the Cyprus forum every so often to shit stir and incite ethnic hatred.

Why don't you just stop being so bloody selfish and support the things you take for granted in Australia for the people in Cyprus!


Because in Australia the government is democratically elected according to their Constitution...In Cyprus the RoC government is a pirate government stolen from the TCs at gunpoint...In Australia people show empathy and compassion for each other...In Cyprus the TCs are accused of everything under the sun,their identity denied by swines like you,and their pain and suffering denied....That is why...


Poppycock! You're too far away both geographically and in logic. The debate has moved on in Cyprus. I'm sorry you had a crap upbringing in Cyprus but get over it, move on, go and do some surfing or light a barbecue or something.... When talking about Cyprus you sound totally lost in 1963 and irrelevant.


Yeah??? Well tell me which part of what I said is poppycock...
The fact that the government was stolen from the TC??? What is your take on that??? Lets hear it,Mister Twister..Is the fact that the Greek colonels organised a coup in Cyprus which led to the Turkish invasion poppycock??? The fact that the GCs had their Akritas plan to rob the TCs of their rights under the 1960 agreement Poppycock??? Come on,false prophet...Lets have your opinions on all that...Without slivering out of answering again...Saying it is all irrelevant does not make it so...Cyprus is divided today because of what happened in the 50s,60s and 70s....You might like to sweep it all under the carpet,but the TCs will not buy it...Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward...If we could we would've found a solution by now...So take your cheering stooges with you and go and peddle your shallow nationalism elsewhere,the TCs have had enough of your tactics...
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:18 pm

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.... I know how Wallace felt when he saw some of his own Scottish kin fighting for the English Longshanks...
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:22 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
humanist wrote:all we hear is ......... partition partition partition form the TC side ......... when they start talking unity we may see progress.


People want to unite with those who show some understanding,respect and compassion for them...They want to go as far as away as possible from those who insult them,deny their pain and suffering,and show callous disregard for their fears and concerns...It is human nature... :(


Oh shut up you over-sensitive Aussie! What suffering? 40 years ago in Cyprus?

On the plus side, you've been living in a developed country for the past 40 years, with excellent health care, education, clean streets, laws that guarantee your rights and freedoms, your right to vote, a strong economy, freedom of movement and settlement....

You dont have to live in a military zone or worry about isolation caused by never-ending political problems.

You dont have to worry about settlers assimilating your native culture. Oh no, Australia gives you the freedom to be a fraudulent Turk and frequent the Cyprus forum every so often to shit stir and incite ethnic hatred.

Why don't you just stop being so bloody selfish and support the things you take for granted in Australia for the people in Cyprus!


Because in Australia the government is democratically elected according to their Constitution...In Cyprus the RoC government is a pirate government stolen from the TCs at gunpoint...In Australia people show empathy and compassion for each other...In Cyprus the TCs are accused of everything under the sun,their identity denied by swines like you,and their pain and suffering denied....That is why...


Poppycock! You're too far away both geographically and in logic. The debate has moved on in Cyprus. I'm sorry you had a crap upbringing in Cyprus but get over it, move on, go and do some surfing or light a barbecue or something.... When talking about Cyprus you sound totally lost in 1963 and irrelevant.


Yeah??? Well tell me which part of what I said is poppycock...
The fact that the government was stolen from the TC??? What is your take on that??? Lets hear it,Mister Twister..Is the fact that the Greek colonels organised a coup in Cyprus which led to the Turkish invasion poppycock??? The fact that the GCs had their Akritas plan to rob the TCs of their rights under the 1960 agreement Poppycock??? Come on,false prophet...Lets have your opinions on all that...Without slivering out of answering again...Saying it is all irrelevant does not make it so...Cyprus is divided today because of what happened in the 50s,60s and 70s....You might like to sweep it all under the carpet,but the TCs will not buy it...Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward...If we could we would've found a solution by now...So take your cheering stooges with you and go and peddle your shallow nationalism elsewhere,the TCs have had enough of your tactics...


Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward..


Ooohh are you telling us all that Turkish Cypriots should stay in the past because of what happened in the past? Really? Is this what you are saying?

Its ok for you to sit in your Australian house and watch BRT to say that, but for young Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus do you believe they cannot or should not move forward without dealing with the past?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:19 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
humanist wrote:all we hear is ......... partition partition partition form the TC side ......... when they start talking unity we may see progress.


People want to unite with those who show some understanding,respect and compassion for them...They want to go as far as away as possible from those who insult them,deny their pain and suffering,and show callous disregard for their fears and concerns...It is human nature... :(


Oh shut up you over-sensitive Aussie! What suffering? 40 years ago in Cyprus?

On the plus side, you've been living in a developed country for the past 40 years, with excellent health care, education, clean streets, laws that guarantee your rights and freedoms, your right to vote, a strong economy, freedom of movement and settlement....

You dont have to live in a military zone or worry about isolation caused by never-ending political problems.

You dont have to worry about settlers assimilating your native culture. Oh no, Australia gives you the freedom to be a fraudulent Turk and frequent the Cyprus forum every so often to shit stir and incite ethnic hatred.

Why don't you just stop being so bloody selfish and support the things you take for granted in Australia for the people in Cyprus!


Because in Australia the government is democratically elected according to their Constitution...In Cyprus the RoC government is a pirate government stolen from the TCs at gunpoint...In Australia people show empathy and compassion for each other...In Cyprus the TCs are accused of everything under the sun,their identity denied by swines like you,and their pain and suffering denied....That is why...


Poppycock! You're too far away both geographically and in logic. The debate has moved on in Cyprus. I'm sorry you had a crap upbringing in Cyprus but get over it, move on, go and do some surfing or light a barbecue or something.... When talking about Cyprus you sound totally lost in 1963 and irrelevant.


Yeah??? Well tell me which part of what I said is poppycock...
The fact that the government was stolen from the TC??? What is your take on that??? Lets hear it,Mister Twister..Is the fact that the Greek colonels organised a coup in Cyprus which led to the Turkish invasion poppycock??? The fact that the GCs had their Akritas plan to rob the TCs of their rights under the 1960 agreement Poppycock??? Come on,false prophet...Lets have your opinions on all that...Without slivering out of answering again...Saying it is all irrelevant does not make it so...Cyprus is divided today because of what happened in the 50s,60s and 70s....You might like to sweep it all under the carpet,but the TCs will not buy it...Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward...If we could we would've found a solution by now...So take your cheering stooges with you and go and peddle your shallow nationalism elsewhere,the TCs have had enough of your tactics...


Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward..


Ooohh are you telling us all that Turkish Cypriots should stay in the past because of what happened in the past? Really? Is this what you are saying?

Its ok for you to sit in your Australian house and watch BRT to say that, but for young Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus do you believe they cannot or should not move forward without dealing with the past?


Master of evasions srikes again...I have asked him/her to tell me which parts of my post were poppycock,spelled out real events,and all he can do is try to distort what I said...

So,you believe the young TCs in Cyprus can go forward without dealing with their past...Fantastic,let them do it...But the results of the Presidential and the parliamentay elections suggests otherwise....By the way,how many young TCs left in Cyprus??? Insist on keeping your head in the sand and your arse in the air,and one of these days you will get what is coming to you... :wink: :lol:
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:47 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
humanist wrote:all we hear is ......... partition partition partition form the TC side ......... when they start talking unity we may see progress.


People want to unite with those who show some understanding,respect and compassion for them...They want to go as far as away as possible from those who insult them,deny their pain and suffering,and show callous disregard for their fears and concerns...It is human nature... :(


Oh shut up you over-sensitive Aussie! What suffering? 40 years ago in Cyprus?

On the plus side, you've been living in a developed country for the past 40 years, with excellent health care, education, clean streets, laws that guarantee your rights and freedoms, your right to vote, a strong economy, freedom of movement and settlement....

You dont have to live in a military zone or worry about isolation caused by never-ending political problems.

You dont have to worry about settlers assimilating your native culture. Oh no, Australia gives you the freedom to be a fraudulent Turk and frequent the Cyprus forum every so often to shit stir and incite ethnic hatred.

Why don't you just stop being so bloody selfish and support the things you take for granted in Australia for the people in Cyprus!


Because in Australia the government is democratically elected according to their Constitution...In Cyprus the RoC government is a pirate government stolen from the TCs at gunpoint...In Australia people show empathy and compassion for each other...In Cyprus the TCs are accused of everything under the sun,their identity denied by swines like you,and their pain and suffering denied....That is why...


Poppycock! You're too far away both geographically and in logic. The debate has moved on in Cyprus. I'm sorry you had a crap upbringing in Cyprus but get over it, move on, go and do some surfing or light a barbecue or something.... When talking about Cyprus you sound totally lost in 1963 and irrelevant.


Yeah??? Well tell me which part of what I said is poppycock...
The fact that the government was stolen from the TC??? What is your take on that??? Lets hear it,Mister Twister..Is the fact that the Greek colonels organised a coup in Cyprus which led to the Turkish invasion poppycock??? The fact that the GCs had their Akritas plan to rob the TCs of their rights under the 1960 agreement Poppycock??? Come on,false prophet...Lets have your opinions on all that...Without slivering out of answering again...Saying it is all irrelevant does not make it so...Cyprus is divided today because of what happened in the 50s,60s and 70s....You might like to sweep it all under the carpet,but the TCs will not buy it...Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward...If we could we would've found a solution by now...So take your cheering stooges with you and go and peddle your shallow nationalism elsewhere,the TCs have had enough of your tactics...


Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward..


Ooohh are you telling us all that Turkish Cypriots should stay in the past because of what happened in the past? Really? Is this what you are saying?

Its ok for you to sit in your Australian house and watch BRT to say that, but for young Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus do you believe they cannot or should not move forward without dealing with the past?


Master of evasions srikes again...I have asked him/her to tell me which parts of my post were poppycock,spelled out real events,and all he can do is try to distort what I said...

So,you believe the young TCs in Cyprus can go forward without dealing with their past...Fantastic,let them do it...But the results of the Presidential and the parliamentay elections suggests otherwise....By the way,how many young TCs left in Cyprus??? Insist on keeping your head in the sand and your arse in the air,and one of these days you will get what is coming to you... :wink: :lol:


Would these be the same elections that the settlers voted in? Or rather they were bribed to vote in? You really dont speak to people in Cyprus so you.... :roll:

and one of these days you will get what is coming to you...


What is coming to me? Please explain....

Do you support violence against people who disagree with you on internet forums? Besides, I thought you said you were pro-peace.....

Everybody can now see that BirKibrisli is really a fascist nazi-sympathiser whose real nationalist ideas are not far from Pinochet, Evren, Milosovic, Hitler or Franco.... No wonder you hate Jews and support ethnic separation...I bet you voted for Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party....
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:28 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
humanist wrote:all we hear is ......... partition partition partition form the TC side ......... when they start talking unity we may see progress.


People want to unite with those who show some understanding,respect and compassion for them...They want to go as far as away as possible from those who insult them,deny their pain and suffering,and show callous disregard for their fears and concerns...It is human nature... :(


Oh shut up you over-sensitive Aussie! What suffering? 40 years ago in Cyprus?

On the plus side, you've been living in a developed country for the past 40 years, with excellent health care, education, clean streets, laws that guarantee your rights and freedoms, your right to vote, a strong economy, freedom of movement and settlement....

You dont have to live in a military zone or worry about isolation caused by never-ending political problems.

You dont have to worry about settlers assimilating your native culture. Oh no, Australia gives you the freedom to be a fraudulent Turk and frequent the Cyprus forum every so often to shit stir and incite ethnic hatred.

Why don't you just stop being so bloody selfish and support the things you take for granted in Australia for the people in Cyprus!


Because in Australia the government is democratically elected according to their Constitution...In Cyprus the RoC government is a pirate government stolen from the TCs at gunpoint...In Australia people show empathy and compassion for each other...In Cyprus the TCs are accused of everything under the sun,their identity denied by swines like you,and their pain and suffering denied....That is why...


Poppycock! You're too far away both geographically and in logic. The debate has moved on in Cyprus. I'm sorry you had a crap upbringing in Cyprus but get over it, move on, go and do some surfing or light a barbecue or something.... When talking about Cyprus you sound totally lost in 1963 and irrelevant.


Yeah??? Well tell me which part of what I said is poppycock...
The fact that the government was stolen from the TC??? What is your take on that??? Lets hear it,Mister Twister..Is the fact that the Greek colonels organised a coup in Cyprus which led to the Turkish invasion poppycock??? The fact that the GCs had their Akritas plan to rob the TCs of their rights under the 1960 agreement Poppycock??? Come on,false prophet...Lets have your opinions on all that...Without slivering out of answering again...Saying it is all irrelevant does not make it so...Cyprus is divided today because of what happened in the 50s,60s and 70s....You might like to sweep it all under the carpet,but the TCs will not buy it...Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward...If we could we would've found a solution by now...So take your cheering stooges with you and go and peddle your shallow nationalism elsewhere,the TCs have had enough of your tactics...


Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward..


Ooohh are you telling us all that Turkish Cypriots should stay in the past because of what happened in the past? Really? Is this what you are saying?

Its ok for you to sit in your Australian house and watch BRT to say that, but for young Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus do you believe they cannot or should not move forward without dealing with the past?


Master of evasions srikes again...I have asked him/her to tell me which parts of my post were poppycock,spelled out real events,and all he can do is try to distort what I said...

So,you believe the young TCs in Cyprus can go forward without dealing with their past...Fantastic,let them do it...But the results of the Presidential and the parliamentay elections suggests otherwise....By the way,how many young TCs left in Cyprus??? Insist on keeping your head in the sand and your arse in the air,and one of these days you will get what is coming to you... :wink: :lol:


Would these be the same elections that the settlers voted in? Or rather they were bribed to vote in? You really dont speak to people in Cyprus so you.... :roll:

and one of these days you will get what is coming to you...


What is coming to me? Please explain....

Do you support violence against people who disagree with you on internet forums? Besides, I thought you said you were pro-peace.....

Everybody can now see that BirKibrisli is really a fascist nazi-sympathiser whose real nationalist ideas are not far from Pinochet, Evren, Milosovic, Hitler or Franco.... No wonder you hate Jews and support ethnic separation...I bet you voted for Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party....


A prized idiot without a sense of humour....What have we done to deserve him/her???
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:32 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
humanist wrote:all we hear is ......... partition partition partition form the TC side ......... when they start talking unity we may see progress.


People want to unite with those who show some understanding,respect and compassion for them...They want to go as far as away as possible from those who insult them,deny their pain and suffering,and show callous disregard for their fears and concerns...It is human nature... :(


Oh shut up you over-sensitive Aussie! What suffering? 40 years ago in Cyprus?

On the plus side, you've been living in a developed country for the past 40 years, with excellent health care, education, clean streets, laws that guarantee your rights and freedoms, your right to vote, a strong economy, freedom of movement and settlement....

You dont have to live in a military zone or worry about isolation caused by never-ending political problems.

You dont have to worry about settlers assimilating your native culture. Oh no, Australia gives you the freedom to be a fraudulent Turk and frequent the Cyprus forum every so often to shit stir and incite ethnic hatred.

Why don't you just stop being so bloody selfish and support the things you take for granted in Australia for the people in Cyprus!


Because in Australia the government is democratically elected according to their Constitution...In Cyprus the RoC government is a pirate government stolen from the TCs at gunpoint...In Australia people show empathy and compassion for each other...In Cyprus the TCs are accused of everything under the sun,their identity denied by swines like you,and their pain and suffering denied....That is why...


Poppycock! You're too far away both geographically and in logic. The debate has moved on in Cyprus. I'm sorry you had a crap upbringing in Cyprus but get over it, move on, go and do some surfing or light a barbecue or something.... When talking about Cyprus you sound totally lost in 1963 and irrelevant.


Yeah??? Well tell me which part of what I said is poppycock...
The fact that the government was stolen from the TC??? What is your take on that??? Lets hear it,Mister Twister..Is the fact that the Greek colonels organised a coup in Cyprus which led to the Turkish invasion poppycock??? The fact that the GCs had their Akritas plan to rob the TCs of their rights under the 1960 agreement Poppycock??? Come on,false prophet...Lets have your opinions on all that...Without slivering out of answering again...Saying it is all irrelevant does not make it so...Cyprus is divided today because of what happened in the 50s,60s and 70s....You might like to sweep it all under the carpet,but the TCs will not buy it...Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward...If we could we would've found a solution by now...So take your cheering stooges with you and go and peddle your shallow nationalism elsewhere,the TCs have had enough of your tactics...


Until we deal realistically with our sorry past we cannot go forward..


Ooohh are you telling us all that Turkish Cypriots should stay in the past because of what happened in the past? Really? Is this what you are saying?

Its ok for you to sit in your Australian house and watch BRT to say that, but for young Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus do you believe they cannot or should not move forward without dealing with the past?


Master of evasions srikes again...I have asked him/her to tell me which parts of my post were poppycock,spelled out real events,and all he can do is try to distort what I said...

So,you believe the young TCs in Cyprus can go forward without dealing with their past...Fantastic,let them do it...But the results of the Presidential and the parliamentay elections suggests otherwise....By the way,how many young TCs left in Cyprus??? Insist on keeping your head in the sand and your arse in the air,and one of these days you will get what is coming to you... :wink: :lol:


Would these be the same elections that the settlers voted in? Or rather they were bribed to vote in? You really dont speak to people in Cyprus so you.... :roll:

and one of these days you will get what is coming to you...


What is coming to me? Please explain....

Do you support violence against people who disagree with you on internet forums? Besides, I thought you said you were pro-peace.....

Everybody can now see that BirKibrisli is really a fascist nazi-sympathiser whose real nationalist ideas are not far from Pinochet, Evren, Milosovic, Hitler or Franco.... No wonder you hate Jews and support ethnic separation...I bet you voted for Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party....


A prized idiot without a sense of humour....What have we done to deserve him/her???
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No, it was no joke.... don't try and wiggle your way out of this one.

This remark represents who you really are deep down.
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