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[Jerry]

"Though the Council agreed on people staying away from the commission, no alternative was offered for legal recourse now that the ECHR’s official stance is in support of the IPC."

So just what is the Alternative for the long suffereing Refugees - none appears to have been offered.
Are we back to - do nothing get nothing/lose nothing policies?
Is it correct that applications or claims should be registered with the IPC by 2011...
someone will clarify this point no doubt.

I read somewhere that the deadline for applications to the IPC has been extended, you may find it of their website; -
http://www.kuzeykibristmk.org/english/index.html

My own view is that the only way to show the IPC up for the fraud that it is is in fact to make an application and ask for restitution and then ultimately go back to the ECHR when you don't get it.
From the IPC: -
As of 29 April 2010, 504 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 102 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 42,677,350 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution


I make that 1% retitution and 5% partial restitution, not what the ECHR was hoping for I think. The Court originally rejected the IPC as a "valid" body because it did not offer restitution, judging by the above figures the IPC is only making a token gesture especially when you consider that 80% of the land in the north is owned by GCs.

APPLY TO THE IPC AND EXPOSE IT FOR THE FRAUD THAT IT IS!

[YFred]

"Though the Council agreed on people staying away from the commission, no alternative was offered for legal recourse now that the ECHR’s official stance is in support of the IPC."

So just what is the Alternative for the long suffereing Refugees - none appears to have been offered.
Are we back to - do nothing get nothing/lose nothing policies?
Is it correct that applications or claims should be registered with the IPC by 2011...
someone will clarify this point no doubt.

I read somewhere that the deadline for applications to the IPC has been extended, you may find it of their website; -
http://www.kuzeykibristmk.org/english/index.html

My own view is that the only way to show the IPC up for the fraud that it is is in fact to make an application and ask for restitution and then ultimately go back to the ECHR when you don't get it.
From the IPC: -
As of 29 April 2010, 504 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 102 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 42,677,350 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution


I make that 1% retitution and 5% partial restitution, not what the ECHR was hoping for I think. The Court originally rejected the IPC as a "valid" body because it did not offer restitution, judging by the above figures the IPC is only making a token gesture especially when you consider that 80% of the land in the north is owned by GCs.

APPLY TO THE IPC AND EXPOSE IT FOR THE FRAUD THAT IT IS!

So what has the roc got to gain if peo[ple do not apply? Is there not a danger that echr can turn around in few years and tell people that the remedy was offered and was not taken up.
When will this remedy be open to TCs then from our cousins in the south? Any time soon?

[Pyrpolizer]

What faith do TCs have the RoC can provide compensation for our losses - NONE that's why they will not set-up a commission in the south.

It is not a matter of committee it is a matter of undisputed matter of ownership and the RoC recognises this right, therefore why set up a committee.
The vast majority of TCs living in the occupied will never dare go to courts. You know why? Because they themselves are in danger of ending up to jail and lose their properties because of THEFT. So it's a matter of FEAR rather than TRUST.

How public are such records? If you are a GC taxpayer, surely you'd want to know the liabilities of your govt?

As public as any other record.Those who care can get them.

They know TCs will not accept the solution on their terms so they utilise this as a means to avoid facing up to the problem of their liabilities - that is why they link the 2 together.

We have no problem with liabilities.Our properties worth 20 times as much as yours. Actually it is your pseudo state that has such a problem.

Lying, cheating, discusting RoC.

Yeah the majority of you are so low IQ that do not know who is the real disgusting THIEF.

[YFred]

What faith do TCs have the RoC can provide compensation for our losses - NONE that's why they will not set-up a commission in the south.

It is not a matter of committee it is a matter of undisputed matter of ownership and the RoC recognises this right, therefore why set up a committee.
The vast majority of TCs living in the occupied will never dare go to courts. You know why? Because they themselves are in danger of ending up to jail and lose their properties because of THEFT. So it's a matter of FEAR rather than TRUST.

How public are such records? If you are a GC taxpayer, surely you'd want to know the liabilities of your govt?

As public as any other record.Those who care can get them.

They know TCs will not accept the solution on their terms so they utilise this as a means to avoid facing up to the problem of their liabilities - that is why they link the 2 together.

We have no problem with liabilities.Our properties worth 20 times as much as yours. Actually it is your pseudo state that has such a problem.

Lying, cheating, discusting RoC.

Yeah the majority of you are so low IQ that do not know who is the real disgusting THIEF.

What? Pyro you are out of order sunshine. There are plenty of TCs who have land in the south and have got nothing from Denktash in the north. There is 8 in my family alone. Do you know how much it costs to take the roc to court to get your own land back. Kechi guldu koyuna imish.

Deniz must be one of those thiefs then. How long has he been wating to get his land back?

[Acikgoz]

A. The more the RoC keeps the angst of the GCs by not having their issues resolved the more people it can use to fights its political battle.
B. If the IPC is shown to be effective it becomes more aparent the south needs to find a real remedy to the claims of TCs that is workable and they simply do not have the funds necessary.

Fool all the people some of the time or some of the people all of the time. They have fooled most of the people for a long time, they are starting to find only the diehard GC nationalists are the only ones can still fool with their mis-information and lies.

[Acikgoz]

How public are such records? If you are a GC taxpayer, surely you'd want to know the liabilities of your govt?

As public as any other record.Those who care can get them.

For us low IQ people, perhaps all those smart so well versed on the RoC govt that blog on this forum can enlighten us on the provisions made for compensation, is there anything in the coffers or as a few people have alluded to the money does not exist. How much has been put away for such a scenario.

I know you can't prove me wrong else we would have heard about it many a time. I bet there is no reasonable amount of money that has been reserved to pay such compensation.

Then perhaps Pyr we'll see. If I have a low IQ, at least I have a moral compass that points away from lying and cheating unlike those you luuuv to defend.

[YFred]

How public are such records? If you are a GC taxpayer, surely you'd want to know the liabilities of your govt?

As public as any other record.Those who care can get them.

For us low IQ people, perhaps all those smart so well arsed on the RoC govt that blog on this forum can enlighten us on the provisions made for compensation, is there anything in the coffers or as a few people have alluded to the money does not exist. How much has been put away for such a scenario.

I know you can't prove me wrong else we would have heard about it many a time. I bet there is no reasonable amount of money that has been reserved to pay such compensation.

Then perhaps Pyr we'll see. If I have a low IQ, at least I have a moral compass that points away from lying and cheating unlike those you luuuv to defend.

If you replace the word "versed" with "arsed" it would be more representative of our cousins from the southern lands.

[Pyrpolizer]

What faith do TCs have the RoC can provide compensation for our losses - NONE that's why they will not set-up a commission in the south.

It is not a matter of committee it is a matter of undisputed matter of ownership and the RoC recognises this right, therefore why set up a committee.
The vast majority of TCs living in the occupied will never dare go to courts. You know why? Because they themselves are in danger of ending up to jail and lose their properties because of THEFT. So it's a matter of FEAR rather than TRUST.

How public are such records? If you are a GC taxpayer, surely you'd want to know the liabilities of your govt?

As public as any other record.Those who care can get them.

They know TCs will not accept the solution on their terms so they utilise this as a means to avoid facing up to the problem of their liabilities - that is why they link the 2 together.

We have no problem with liabilities.Our properties worth 20 times as much as yours. Actually it is your pseudo state that has such a problem.

Lying, cheating, discusting RoC.

Yeah the majority of you are so low IQ that do not know who is the real disgusting THIEF.

What? Pyro you are out of order sunshine. There are plenty of TCs who have land in the south and have got nothing from Denktash in the north. There is 8 in my family alone. Do you know how much it costs to take the roc to court to get your own land back. Kechi guldu koyuna imish.

Deniz must be one of those thiefs then. How long has he been wating to get his land back?

When I hear an idiot calling me the legal state that is recognised as such by the whole world as disgusting, and thief etc what do you want me to say?
Discusting is him and his pseudo state.

[YFred]

What faith do TCs have the RoC can provide compensation for our losses - NONE that's why they will not set-up a commission in the south.

It is not a matter of committee it is a matter of undisputed matter of ownership and the RoC recognises this right, therefore why set up a committee.
The vast majority of TCs living in the occupied will never dare go to courts. You know why? Because they themselves are in danger of ending up to jail and lose their properties because of THEFT. So it's a matter of FEAR rather than TRUST.

How public are such records? If you are a GC taxpayer, surely you'd want to know the liabilities of your govt?

As public as any other record.Those who care can get them.

They know TCs will not accept the solution on their terms so they utilise this as a means to avoid facing up to the problem of their liabilities - that is why they link the 2 together.

We have no problem with liabilities.Our properties worth 20 times as much as yours. Actually it is your pseudo state that has such a problem.

Lying, cheating, discusting RoC.

Yeah the majority of you are so low IQ that do not know who is the real disgusting THIEF.

What? Pyro you are out of order sunshine. There are plenty of TCs who have land in the south and have got nothing from Denktash in the north. There is 8 in my family alone. Do you know how much it costs to take the roc to court to get your own land back. Kechi guldu koyuna imish.

Deniz must be one of those thiefs then. How long has he been wating to get his land back?

When I hear an idiot calling me the legal state that is recognised as such by the whole world as disgusting, and thief etc what do you want me to say?
Discusting is him and his pseudo state.

What you don't seem to appreciate is a simple fact that while the Illegal regime in the north is behaving illegally, the legal regime in the south has legalised illegalities and living the life of riley.
That is the problem.

[Pyrpolizer]

A. The more the RoC keeps the angst of the GCs by not having their issues resolved the more people it can use to fights its political battle.
B. If the IPC is shown to be effective it becomes more aparent the south needs to find a real remedy to the claims of TCs that is workable and they simply do not have the funds necessary.

Fool all the people some of the time or some of the people all of the time. They have fooled most of the people for a long time, they are starting to find only the diehard GC nationalists are the only ones can still fool with their mis-information and lies.

Soooooo, you think it's a matter of luck of funds ...
That explains all that mumbo jumbo.


No my dear, it's not a matter of funds.Those who could get money out of it they already did it.
It is much simpler. It is a matter of "You want your property? Here take it"