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Re: What future date.....???

Postby Jerry » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:53 pm

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cymart wrote:That's pie in the sky!
Better to get half a loaf now and enjoy it than die dreaming about how you might be able to get the other half.....


Better to keep things the way they are, than to agree on a so called solution and then dream about the political and democratic rights I once had.


Paphiti, what he is trying to say is, as long has he can get his wifes varosha land (half the loaf) back, he couldn't git a shit about anyone else.

This is the interpretation of his post. what he, as a non cypriot, doesn't understand, that once the half is accepted the whole is lost. This is something we will not agree to.

So, unless we have an acceptable solution to the WHOLE of the island, no can do matey!


Whilst I agree with your sentiments the reality is that the next generation and the one after that will not care as much about justice as we do today. Imagine that in 35 years time the status quo persists, very few of those who saw the events of 1974 will still be alive. Some of my cousins have all but given up on Cyprus, they made comfortable lives for themselves in the UK after the invasion and their offspring have no knowledge of what they lost in the north.

We will never get back everything that was lost but the Turks must realise that if we feel cheated by a future solution there will never be peace and harmony on the island.

Personally, whilst I do not want partition, I believe it may be the only way to regain our fair share of Cyprus. Let Turkey shove 20% of the island up its arse - sideways. They will then have no say on the affairs of the ROC - we will, of course, have to agree permanent derogations with the EU regarding freedom of movement into the ROC.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:05 pm

The Turks want partition on 37%, and will not settle for anything less as long as they think they will have it in 100 years maybe. In the meantime they work to make any solution either impossible or near to their final goal. They don't care for what it costs.
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Re: What future date.....???

Postby B25 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:16 pm

Jerry wrote:
B25 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
cymart wrote:That's pie in the sky!
Better to get half a loaf now and enjoy it than die dreaming about how you might be able to get the other half.....


Better to keep things the way they are, than to agree on a so called solution and then dream about the political and democratic rights I once had.


Paphiti, what he is trying to say is, as long has he can get his wifes varosha land (half the loaf) back, he couldn't git a shit about anyone else.

This is the interpretation of his post. what he, as a non cypriot, doesn't understand, that once the half is accepted the whole is lost. This is something we will not agree to.

So, unless we have an acceptable solution to the WHOLE of the island, no can do matey!


Whilst I agree with your sentiments the reality is that the next generation and the one after that will not care as much about justice as we do today. Imagine that in 35 years time the status quo persists, very few of those who saw the events of 1974 will still be alive. Some of my cousins have all but given up on Cyprus, they made comfortable lives for themselves in the UK after the invasion and their offspring have no knowledge of what they lost in the north.
We will never get back everything that was lost but the Turks must realise that if we feel cheated by a future solution there will never be peace and harmony on the island.

Personally, whilst I do not want partition, I believe it may be the only way to regain our fair share of Cyprus. Let Turkey shove 20% of the island up its arse - sideways. They will then have no say on the affairs of the ROC - we will, of course, have to agree permanent derogations with the EU regarding freedom of movement into the ROC.


Jerry, thats up to the parents to keep the flame alive. They need to keep reminding the younger ones of the suffering and losses we have forced upon us.

I of course will make sure mine know and know what they have on the dark side is still there under the power of law and that they should never give up on it.

Turkeys master plan is to drag this out long enough for us to either just give up and lie down for them, or so long that they out live us and hence turkify the north over time. For as long as there are people that keep the flame alive, they can wait forever as far as I am concerned.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:17 pm

exactly pyro to make it seem like there is no other solution, make sure they dont budge or make any consessions make sure everything fails to make it look like partition is the only option, they will fail just a matter of time
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:51 pm

They also train their people to tell lies palio. It's unbelievable how they orchestrate together in telling lies.
At best you can only hear half truths from some.
They are also trained to think that all their problems is because of us, because of the RoC tiger that strangles them, because of the GCs who put them on isolation.
But their biggest training is on maths:
18%=82% because they are both numbers.Hence they are equal partners.
They took 20 times as much value of properties as they left behind and they scream we should also make a property committee so that they can take back the 1/20th they left behind.

What do you think do they get a training for that, or is it inherited from some genes :wink:
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Postby YFred » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:17 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:They also train their people to tell lies palio. It's unbelievable how they orchestrate together in telling lies.
At best you can only hear half truths from some.
They are also trained to think that all their problems is because of us, because of the RoC tiger that strangles them, because of the GCs who put them on isolation.
But their biggest training is on maths:
18%=82% because they are both numbers.Hence they are equal partners.
They took 20 times as much value of properties as they left behind and they scream we should also make a property committee so that they can take back the 1/20th they left behind.

What do you think do they get a training for that, or is it inherited from some genes :wink:

That is the worst insult from a GC yet. You bastards.
You stole our lands in 63 and that was not theft, but when Turkallos stole yours in 74 that is theft. When our lands were stolen it is history but when yours were it is current.

The best currents I've see are the one we sqaush for zivania.
Eva brodo. Who's rounds is it next? hick.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:27 pm

YFred wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:They also train their people to tell lies palio. It's unbelievable how they orchestrate together in telling lies.
At best you can only hear half truths from some.
They are also trained to think that all their problems is because of us, because of the RoC tiger that strangles them, because of the GCs who put them on isolation.
But their biggest training is on maths:
18%=82% because they are both numbers.Hence they are equal partners.
They took 20 times as much value of properties as they left behind and they scream we should also make a property committee so that they can take back the 1/20th they left behind.

What do you think do they get a training for that, or is it inherited from some genes :wink:

That is the worst insult from a GC yet. You bastards.
You stole our lands in 63 and that was not theft, but when Turkallos stole yours in 74 that is theft. When our lands were stolen it is history but when yours were it is current.

The best currents I've see are the one we sqaush for zivania.
Eva brodo. Who's rounds is it next? hick.


See what I mean Palio?
EVERYBODY got nothing from our stolen properties from Denktas.
EVERYBODY left behind much more property that what he took
EVERYBODY had bullets flying over his head (and still flying)
EVERYBODY emmigrated because Eoka killed his family
EVERYBODY's properties were stolen in 1963.

PAST LIES:
EVERYBODY was from Kofinou or Tochni.
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Postby YFred » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:32 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:They also train their people to tell lies palio. It's unbelievable how they orchestrate together in telling lies.
At best you can only hear half truths from some.
They are also trained to think that all their problems is because of us, because of the RoC tiger that strangles them, because of the GCs who put them on isolation.
But their biggest training is on maths:
18%=82% because they are both numbers.Hence they are equal partners.
They took 20 times as much value of properties as they left behind and they scream we should also make a property committee so that they can take back the 1/20th they left behind.

What do you think do they get a training for that, or is it inherited from some genes :wink:

That is the worst insult from a GC yet. You bastards.
You stole our lands in 63 and that was not theft, but when Turkallos stole yours in 74 that is theft. When our lands were stolen it is history but when yours were it is current.

The best currents I've see are the one we sqaush for zivania.
Eva brodo. Who's rounds is it next? hick.


See what I mean Palio?
EVERYBODY got nothing from our stolen properties from Denktas.
EVERYBODY left behind much more property that what he took
EVERYBODY had bullets flying over his head (and still flying)
EVERYBODY emmigrated because Eoka killed his family
EVERYBODY's properties were stolen in 1963.

PAST LIES:
EVERYBODY was from Kofinou or Tochni.

You have the Kickapoo challenge as to what I say with the same deal. You feeling lucky. If you are right you can have it all, but If I am right in what I say, all your Cypriot land belongs to me. How about it, are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is?
Make my day. We shall see who is a liar and who is not.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:40 pm

YFred wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:They also train their people to tell lies palio. It's unbelievable how they orchestrate together in telling lies.
At best you can only hear half truths from some.
They are also trained to think that all their problems is because of us, because of the RoC tiger that strangles them, because of the GCs who put them on isolation.
But their biggest training is on maths:
18%=82% because they are both numbers.Hence they are equal partners.
They took 20 times as much value of properties as they left behind and they scream we should also make a property committee so that they can take back the 1/20th they left behind.

What do you think do they get a training for that, or is it inherited from some genes :wink:

That is the worst insult from a GC yet. You bastards.
You stole our lands in 63 and that was not theft, but when Turkallos stole yours in 74 that is theft. When our lands were stolen it is history but when yours were it is current.

The best currents I've see are the one we sqaush for zivania.
Eva brodo. Who's rounds is it next? hick.


NOT WORSE THAN YOURS.
YOU ARE PROVOKING HATE IN THIS FORUM.
WITHIN ONE WEEK YOU INFLICTED YOUR HATE ON ME, AND I DO THE SAME AS YOU.
TOO BAD AS THERE ARE SOME TCs IN HERE WHO DON'T DESERVE IT, AND I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TAKING IT OFF ON THEM.

BYE GUYS.


I HOPE NEXT TIME I AM HERE YOU ARE NOT.
SON OF A BITCHES.

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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:41 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:They also train their people to tell lies palio. It's unbelievable how they orchestrate together in telling lies.
At best you can only hear half truths from some.
They are also trained to think that all their problems is because of us, because of the RoC tiger that strangles them, because of the GCs who put them on isolation.
But their biggest training is on maths:
18%=82% because they are both numbers.Hence they are equal partners.
They took 20 times as much value of properties as they left behind and they scream we should also make a property committee so that they can take back the 1/20th they left behind.

What do you think do they get a training for that, or is it inherited from some genes :wink:

That is the worst insult from a GC yet. You bastards.
You stole our lands in 63 and that was not theft, but when Turkallos stole yours in 74 that is theft. When our lands were stolen it is history but when yours were it is current.

The best currents I've see are the one we sqaush for zivania.
Eva brodo. Who's rounds is it next? hick.


See what I mean Palio?
EVERYBODY got nothing from our stolen properties from Denktas.
EVERYBODY left behind much more property that what he took
EVERYBODY had bullets flying over his head (and still flying)
EVERYBODY emmigrated because Eoka killed his family
EVERYBODY's properties were stolen in 1963.

PAST LIES:
EVERYBODY was from Kofinou or Tochni.


well either way denktashes brother ergul wont manage to tear apart our island and have trnc recognised, if anything he will make things worse for the trnc and ensure it is taken down
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