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Ok guys not trying to bring up the ugly past but want clarity on a couple of things:

1) GC refugees, I have heard all sorts of figures> but what were the actual number I have heard the much quoted 200,000 included the 70,000 tc refugees is this true.

2) deaths from the 1974 action. Again I have heard all sorts of figures but how many were killed by the Turkish army and the TMT and how many were killed through fighting between pro Makarios and enosis factions (bear in mind recently the ROC admitted that some of the missing and killed were killed in the GC against GC violence rather than the 1974 action).

In this video there is a priest which makes some interesting revelations. Though he has no answers, he cannot understand why GC soldiers should want to bury 510 people like dogs. Of course the official GCs killed by eoka in 74 is 97 as no doubt GR will produce them soon.

The priest is about 7 minutes into the video.

"imagine my relief when I found out that I was not dead" My respect for makarios has doubled with that statement. shame that he said that turkey would not find one TC alive if they invaded. So my respect even though doubled still remains extremely low.

I wish that GCs an d TCs would be able to share their culture to make one CYPRIOT culture. I would love to be part of that, but this is just a dream- A dream that will never become reality.

Your dream can become a reality if you submit to the RoC authority and pay your taxes like every Cypriot.

Georgios100

That is not what I said is it? plus you are racist against black people so i have no time for you.

You are not a true Cypriot. What I said about the blacks is a very old Cypriot-Greek parimia, over 100 years old. This "parimia" has a metaforical meaning for things people attempt to do, in vein... get it? It's not racist. True Cypriots know that... you don't.

There can be only one Cyprus with only one RoC, a worldwide recognized authority of the island. The sooner you join, the sooner you enjoy the privileges of citizenship ( ie travel to the UK w/o a visa) but you got to pay taxes my friend, can you get used to that? No more freeloading from mama Turkey, just hard work, like everybody else.

Georgios100

Im am a cypriot from the Uk I pay my taxes dude, probably more than what you earn in a year. What you quoted is disgusting and racist, like I said I was about to make a post stating that you get a hard ride and I dont think you should but your post against black people is fucked up and if that is the way that GCs and TCs see black people then you can both go an fuck yourselves. In my Cyprus there is no room for Rasism from any side and if that means that I am not welcome in cyprus then so be it!!

Good. Stay where you are till you are ready to submit to the RoC. If not, keep paying taxes to the Queen & leave Cyprus to the Cypriots.

like you who is in Canada? You are a racist and new Cyprus has no time for you or your kind, GC and TC please back me up because this guy said some racist shit and I would not want to be associated with that in any degree. this was against black people, so not TC or GC.

You disappoint me george, I thought you were ok!

Are you paranoid?

explain?

[Piratis]

The GC refugees in 1974 were about 165.000. Today the GCs who are prevented at gun point from living in their ancestral lands are over 200.000 (this includes the descendants of the original 1974 refugees)

I don't remember the exact number of GC casualties during the Turkish invasion, but they were several 1000s, the most casualties that Cyprus had for centuries. Probably the last time that Cyprus had more casualties was when Turks first invaded Cyprus in 1571, when 20.000 people were killed in Nicosia alone.

[DTA]

The GC refugees in 1974 were about 165.000. Today the GCs who are prevented at gun point from living in their ancestral lands are over 200.000 (this includes the descendants of the original 1974 refugees)

I don't remember the exact number of GC casualties during the Turkish invasion, but they were several 1000s, the most casualties that Cyprus had for centuries. Probably the last time that Cyprus had more casualties was when Turks first invaded Cyprus in 1571, when 20.000 people were killed in Nicosia alone.

Hey dude you are the only one that has tried to answer the question so, thank you!! can you provide links please if you have them at hand of course.

I think that there is a lot of bullshit on both sides so it is important to find the unbias truth.

[Piratis]

You can find links by searching online

Here is a part from a report by the Council of Europe:

14. As an immediate result of the hostilities leading to the partition of the island, in 1974, in addition to a large number of people who were killed and 1 619 missing persons the number of displaced persons amounted to approximately 210 000 people. Out of this figure, the number of Greek Cypriot refugees displaced immediately after the invasion accounted for 201 000 (which constituted one third of the whole population of Cyprus), and the number of Turkish Cypriots was 8 000.

15. At that time about 13 000 Greek Cypriots were still living in the occupied area, and approximately 35–37 000 Turkish Cypriots were living in the Government controlled area.

16. Many of the people whose places of residence were in dangerous areas within the control of the Government returned to their homes by 1977 while at the same time enclaved persons were forced to move to the southern part resulting in a total of 167 000 Greek Cypriot refugees.

17. On the other hand expulsions of Greek Cypriots from the occupied area have continued following discrimination, harassment and intimidation. By 1989, the number of Greek Cypriot refugees staying in the Government controlled area increased to 193 000.

18. Also the Turkish Cypriot population living in the Greek Cypriot zone was considerably reduced as a result of transfers carried out by UN or the ICRC, and following negotiations in Vienna in early August 1975. In all, Turkish Cypriots who had moved to the occupied areas numbered about 43–45 000 at the end of 1975. The Turkish Cypriot authorities provide a higher number of 65 000 forced to move to the "northern part".

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

[DTA]

You can find links by searching online

Here is a part from a report by the Council of Europe:

14. As an immediate result of the hostilities leading to the partition of the island, in 1974, in addition to a large number of people who were killed and 1 619 missing persons the number of displaced persons amounted to approximately 210 000 people. Out of this figure, the number of Greek Cypriot refugees displaced immediately after the invasion accounted for 201 000 (which constituted one third of the whole population of Cyprus), and the number of Turkish Cypriots was 8 000.

15. At that time about 13 000 Greek Cypriots were still living in the occupied area, and approximately 35–37 000 Turkish Cypriots were living in the Government controlled area.

16. Many of the people whose places of residence were in dangerous areas within the control of the Government returned to their homes by 1977 while at the same time enclaved persons were forced to move to the southern part resulting in a total of 167 000 Greek Cypriot refugees.

17. On the other hand expulsions of Greek Cypriots from the occupied area have continued following discrimination, harassment and intimidation. By 1989, the number of Greek Cypriot refugees staying in the Government controlled area increased to 193 000.

18. Also the Turkish Cypriot population living in the Greek Cypriot zone was considerably reduced as a result of transfers carried out by UN or the ICRC, and following negotiations in Vienna in early August 1975. In all, Turkish Cypriots who had moved to the occupied areas numbered about 43–45 000 at the end of 1975. The Turkish Cypriot authorities provide a higher number of 65 000 forced to move to the "northern part".

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

I am sorry but what you posted was complete bullshit??????????????? please try again even the RoC admits to 50000-60000 TC refugees and the the TRNC claims closer to 90,000 the truth I feel is somewhere in between but NOT then figures in your link. can you provide an imparcial source?