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[Get Real!]

Just because you see and appreciate the beauty of the universe, it does not mean it was created for your pleasure by a God.

When did I ever say that and how is that relevant to the existence of God?

Some live and die and never see this beauty, only its pain. Is God (if he exists) any less real for them in that case?

They all have a brain so the onus is on them to start using it.

God (if he exists) cannot exist only for some and not others. God cannot exist to be good to some and not others.

God is neither good nor bad to anyone. When you drive recklessly and die God has nothing to do with it. When one’s mortal earthly body surcomes to earthly illnesses God has nothing to do with it! When my time comes and I'll die from cirrhosis it's because I drink myself silly with Scotch and God has nothing to do with it!

The presence or absence of a God is not dependent on our feelings. You cannot use your perception of the universe as evidence that God exists. Your feelings are fallible.

I thought you were looking for an otherwise inexplicable miracle to justify the presence of God and now you say that's not good enough? You cheeky little monkey!

Your feelings evolved to make sense of the universe as it is, not the other way around.

You what?

[Get Real!]

Anyway, I see GR! is unable to counter my logical responses above, so I shall retire undefeated, once again ...

I'll be honest with you Oracle... your responses are time wasting pseudo-philosophical mumbo jumbo that put me to sleep.

[Oracle]

Anyway, I see GR! is unable to counter my logical responses above, so I shall retire undefeated, once again ...

I'll be honest with you Oracle... your responses are time wasting pseudo-philosophical mumbo jumbo that put me to sleep.

Oh I see you had a little attempt at answering when I was gone

I wouldn't raise my responses to the level of "philosophical", pseudo or otherwise, since we may be forced into a discussion of what constitutes "pseudo" -- and we wouldn't want to start another pointless debate on trying to find proof for what doesn't exist!

[Get Real!]

A simplified diagrammatic representation of a portion of the universe…

If it was possible to have a Google Earth like representation of the universe and we were to zoom in by a magnitude of one trillion to the relevant section so as to center planet Earth, this is what it would look like…

NB: The black area is a miniscule portion of the universe and the white area is us! You can click on your zoom button repeatedly to take a better look!

[cyprusgrump]

A simplified diagrammatic representation of a portion of the universe…

If it was possible to have a Google Earth like representation of the universe and we were to zoom in by a magnitude of one trillion to the relevant section so as to center planet Earth, this is what it would look like…

NB: The black area is a miniscule portion of the universe and the white area is us! You can click on your zoom button repeatedly to take a better look!

So god did all that but can't cure cancer...?

Bit of an idiot if you ask me...

[Get Real!]

A simplified diagrammatic representation of a portion of the universe…

If it was possible to have a Google Earth like representation of the universe and we were to zoom in by a magnitude of one trillion to the relevant section so as to center planet Earth, this is what it would look like…

NB: The black area is a miniscule portion of the universe and the white area is us! You can click on your zoom button repeatedly to take a better look!

So god did all that but can't cure cancer...?

Bit of an idiot if you ask me...

Is it any wonder God hasn’t come here to perform a couple of microscopic miracles to impress the earthlings… he can’t find the frickin place!

[Paphitis]

A simplified diagrammatic representation of a portion of the universe…

If it was possible to have a Google Earth like representation of the universe and we were to zoom in by a magnitude of one trillion to the relevant section so as to center planet Earth, this is what it would look like…

NB: The black area is a miniscule portion of the universe and the white area is us! You can click on your zoom button repeatedly to take a better look!

So god did all that but can't cure cancer...?

Bit of an idiot if you ask me...

Is it any wonder God hasn’t come here to perform a couple of microscopic miracles to impress the earthlings… he can’t find the frickin place!

So how omnipotent can he be then?

[Paphitis]

This thread is about proving god exists...

Since it is in question why can't god prove he exists?

Why can't he do something that would convince non-non-believers like myself?

It keeps going over your head but, the presence of the universe is 100% ROCK SOLID EVIDENCE of the existence of God!

That you and countless other fools, choose to ignore the mother of all miracles, and are looking for petty terrestrial trickery to be convinced of the existence of God, has more to do with an intellectual shortcoming.

But earlier you said this:

I don't know where you got that from but God's existence does NOT depend on our beliefs. He is either fact or fiction but it’s certainly not up to us to decide through fantasy!

So in other words, you have decided that "God" exists and that the universe is 'rock solid evidence' of this! This is your prerogative, but to others it is pure fantasy in the true sense of the word. And that is our prerogative. As Oracle stated previously, your feelings and perceptions about our universe isn't proof for the existence of "God".

[Gasman]

'he can't find the frikkin place!'

I'll be honest with you Oracle... your responses are time wasting pseudo-philosophical mumbo jumbo that put me to sleep.

Couldn't have put it better myself!

As for:

Oh I see you had a little attempt at answering when I was gone

Someone please tell me how anyone is supposed to know when anyone else is 'GONE' from the forum?

Anyway I think I have the answer to the meaningless philosophical mumbo jumbo. This film I am about to watch 'The Lightning Thief' is about someone who discovers they are the descendant of a mortal woman and a GREEK GOD - apparently they suffer from ADHD lol!

[Paphitis]

'he can't find the frikkin place!'

I'll be honest with you Oracle... your responses are time wasting pseudo-philosophical mumbo jumbo that put me to sleep.

Couldn't have put it better myself!

As for:

Oh I see you had a little attempt at answering when I was gone

Someone please tell me how anyone is supposed to know when anyone else is 'GONE' from the forum?

Anyway I think I have the answer to the meaningless philosophical mumbo jumbo. This film I am about to watch 'The Lightning Thief' is about someone who discovers they are the descendant of a mortal woman and a GREEK GOD - apparently they suffer from ADHD lol!

You're watching a film about Get Real?