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Re: Why does a Muslim country (Turkey) want to join EU?

Postby georgios100 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:44 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
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georgios100 wrote:Turkey would be the first Muslim-majority country to join the European Union, although Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo are also Muslim-majority.

Here is a comment posted by Ibne Fetosh, (apparently a Turk).

Berlin is conquered the rest of Germany will soon turn to Islam Insha’Allah. When a Muslim chancellor is elected in Germany to go hand in hand with a Muslim president of France, all European Union will kneel down before the true religion, Islam. Then the Pope will announce the Christianity was a big joke and he too will turn Muslim (after getting circumcised of course), you too will come to us and beg for converting to Islam, Insha’Allah.

Link http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 614AAUAy06

Any TCs on this forum share/support this kinda crap?

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Someone mischievous is winding you up,Georgio...

This person is not Turkish...Fetosh is not a Turkish name,and Ibne in Turkish means Poofter.... :wink: :D


Hi there Bir,

One can never tell for sure who the poster is. The name is definitely fake but the his origin is clear.

What I am wondering is... who would post such a comment... obviously some sort of an Islamic extremist with paranoia attitude. The Ottoman empire comes to mind really.


Forget it,Georgio...No self respecting Islamic Jihadist would call themselves Poofter...This is some non-Islamic provocateur...


Fair enough Bir.

Can I get your take on this one?

Current situation in Turkey.
The struggle between the secularist and democratic citizens and the Islamic fanatics who has just emigrated from rural areas are still a great argument over both religion and democracy.

A couple of questions:
1. Are the Islamic fanatics supported by the military?
2. What is to happen if Erdogan looses the next election?


No,mate..The Military is fanatically secular...It is the essence of Kemalism...Well, if he loses that means a nationalist government would come to power,and Erdogan will probably be tried and convicted of trying to undermind the secularism of the state,or some such charge...


Thanks.

I see Erdogan as a change for the better after many bold moves he made in all sectors of Turkey. As a kid selling lemonade on the street for extra bucks, he did climb the ladder fast. Imprisoned for 4 months, mayor of Konstantinopole (AKA Istabul) Erdogan opened Turkey to the world, surely a positive image...

The nationalists, if they win, would undo everything and "turn the clock" back... what good is that?

What do you think is best for Turkey? Is Erdogan a hero or a traitor in your own mind?

I like to hear more from you Bir as I consider you one of the best forumers and best informed on Turkish matters.
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Re: Why does a Muslim country (Turkey) want to join EU?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:52 pm

georgios100 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
georgios100 wrote:Turkey would be the first Muslim-majority country to join the European Union, although Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo are also Muslim-majority.

Here is a comment posted by Ibne Fetosh, (apparently a Turk).

Berlin is conquered the rest of Germany will soon turn to Islam Insha’Allah. When a Muslim chancellor is elected in Germany to go hand in hand with a Muslim president of France, all European Union will kneel down before the true religion, Islam. Then the Pope will announce the Christianity was a big joke and he too will turn Muslim (after getting circumcised of course), you too will come to us and beg for converting to Islam, Insha’Allah.

Link http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 614AAUAy06

Any TCs on this forum share/support this kinda crap?

Georgios100


Someone mischievous is winding you up,Georgio...

This person is not Turkish...Fetosh is not a Turkish name,and Ibne in Turkish means Poofter.... :wink: :D


Hi there Bir,

One can never tell for sure who the poster is. The name is definitely fake but the his origin is clear.

What I am wondering is... who would post such a comment... obviously some sort of an Islamic extremist with paranoia attitude. The Ottoman empire comes to mind really.


Forget it,Georgio...No self respecting Islamic Jihadist would call themselves Poofter...This is some non-Islamic provocateur...


Fair enough Bir.

Can I get your take on this one?

Current situation in Turkey.
The struggle between the secularist and democratic citizens and the Islamic fanatics who has just emigrated from rural areas are still a great argument over both religion and democracy.

A couple of questions:
1. Are the Islamic fanatics supported by the military?
2. What is to happen if Erdogan looses the next election?


No,mate..The Military is fanatically secular...It is the essence of Kemalism...Well, if he loses that means a nationalist government would come to power,and Erdogan will probably be tried and convicted of trying to undermind the secularism of the state,or some such charge...


Thanks.

I see Erdogan as a change for the better after many bold moves he made in all sectors of Turkey. As a kid selling lemonade on the street for extra bucks, he did climb the ladder fast. Imprisoned for 4 months, mayor of Konstantinopole (AKA Istabul) Erdogan opened Turkey to the world, surely a positive image...

The nationalists, if they win, would undo everything and "turn the clock" back... what good is that?

What do you think is best for Turkey? Is Erdogan a hero or a traitor in your own mind?

I like to hear more from you Bir as I consider you one of the best forumers and best informed on Turkish matters.


For Cyprus, Erdogan is better. For global security and stability in the region, the military is better.

But when I say that Erdogan is better, I only say it because he wants Turkey to become an EU nation, but overall he is just as bad as any other Turkish Government as their stance on Cyprus is the same. They don't want compromise, but the EU may force them to.

The Turkish Generals will claim the ascendancy once more, once the CIA let go of their balls from their tight clutch.

And you are an idiot for asking stupid questions! :roll:
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:53 pm

People who live far away from Cyprus tell us about racism in Cyprus! Very interesting ...
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:56 pm

Bananiot wrote:People who live far away from Cyprus tell us about racism in Cyprus! Very interesting ...


And people that live in Cyprus are proving to be so out of touch with Cyprus.

You made a sensational claim that Cyprus is racist to the extreme. Surely you can provide evidence of this over abundant racism that puts the rest of the world to shame.

Come on Bananiot. How much more racist is Cyprus than any other country?

I told you before, you don't even know the meaning of real racism. We Cypriots in Australia lived it decades before.
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Postby intermoon » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:31 pm

Why does a Muslim country (Turkey) want to join EU?

According to my opinion it is an economic reasons why Turkey wants to join EU.

Why many EU Countries and Pope do not want Turkey to join EU?

Because the Western countries and Pope consider Islam to be the biggest threat because Islam is a True Religion and when the truth will be heard like falsehood, falsehood will perish as falsehood by its nature bound to perish.

According to Vetican, Islam has superceed Catholics and it has become the number one single religion in the world. statistics are taken from UN

Check with Vetican for your satisfaction.
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Postby apc2010 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:36 pm

intermoon wrote:Why does a Muslim country (Turkey) want to join EU?

According to my opinion it is an economic reasons why Turkey wants to join EU.

Why many EU Countries and Pope do not want Turkey to join EU?

Because the Western countries and Pope consider Islam to be the biggest threat because Islam is a True Religion and when the truth will be heard like falsehood, falsehood will perish as falsehood by its nature bound to perish.

According to Vetican, Islam has superceed Catholics and it has become the number one single religion in the world. statistics are taken from UN

Check with Vetican for your satisfaction.

Are they like the Vatican????

Or are you just terminally stupid ....
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Postby georgios100 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:42 pm

intermoon wrote:Why does a Muslim country (Turkey) want to join EU?

According to my opinion it is an economic reasons why Turkey wants to join EU.

Why many EU Countries and Pope do not want Turkey to join EU?

Because the Western countries and Pope consider Islam to be the biggest threat because Islam is a True Religion and when the truth will be heard like falsehood, falsehood will perish as falsehood by its nature bound to perish.

According to Vetican, Islam has superceed Catholics and it has become the number one single religion in the world. statistics are taken from UN

Check with Vetican for your satisfaction.


You sound like the fanatic extremist islamist guy who posted the remarks on the original thread...
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Re: Why does a Muslim country (Turkey) want to join EU?

Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:53 am

georgios100 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
georgios100 wrote:Turkey would be the first Muslim-majority country to join the European Union, although Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo are also Muslim-majority.

Here is a comment posted by Ibne Fetosh, (apparently a Turk).

Berlin is conquered the rest of Germany will soon turn to Islam Insha’Allah. When a Muslim chancellor is elected in Germany to go hand in hand with a Muslim president of France, all European Union will kneel down before the true religion, Islam. Then the Pope will announce the Christianity was a big joke and he too will turn Muslim (after getting circumcised of course), you too will come to us and beg for converting to Islam, Insha’Allah.

Link http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 614AAUAy06

Any TCs on this forum share/support this kinda crap?

Georgios100


Someone mischievous is winding you up,Georgio...

This person is not Turkish...Fetosh is not a Turkish name,and Ibne in Turkish means Poofter.... :wink: :D


Hi there Bir,

One can never tell for sure who the poster is. The name is definitely fake but the his origin is clear.

What I am wondering is... who would post such a comment... obviously some sort of an Islamic extremist with paranoia attitude. The Ottoman empire comes to mind really.


Forget it,Georgio...No self respecting Islamic Jihadist would call themselves Poofter...This is some non-Islamic provocateur...


Fair enough Bir.

Can I get your take on this one?

Current situation in Turkey.
The struggle between the secularist and democratic citizens and the Islamic fanatics who has just emigrated from rural areas are still a great argument over both religion and democracy.

A couple of questions:
1. Are the Islamic fanatics supported by the military?
2. What is to happen if Erdogan looses the next election?


No,mate..The Military is fanatically secular...It is the essence of Kemalism...Well, if he loses that means a nationalist government would come to power,and Erdogan will probably be tried and convicted of trying to undermind the secularism of the state,or some such charge...


Thanks.

I see Erdogan as a change for the better after many bold moves he made in all sectors of Turkey. As a kid selling lemonade on the street for extra bucks, he did climb the ladder fast. Imprisoned for 4 months, mayor of Konstantinopole (AKA Istabul) Erdogan opened Turkey to the world, surely a positive image...

The nationalists, if they win, would undo everything and "turn the clock" back... what good is that?

What do you think is best for Turkey? Is Erdogan a hero or a traitor in your own mind?

I like to hear more from you Bir as I consider you one of the best forumers and best informed on Turkish matters.


Thank you for the vote of confidence,Georgio...

I don't see Erdogan as a hero or traitor.He is a politician above all esle,albeit a very cunning one...I just don't trust him...He pretends to be a democrat but he rules his party with an iron fist...He has to pretend to want to join the EU...To keep the Military at bay...Under Erdogan Turkey has moved away from the West and towards the Islamic countries...Many Islamic restrictions are now part of the lives of people in Turkey...If he wins his struggle with the military (Ergenekon) that will be good for Turkey on one hand,but on the other it might give Erdogan the courage to press on with his real agenda,to make Turkey the neo-Ottoman empire with great influence in the region...He probably wants to revive the Khalife or the Islamic Popedom too,which was abolished by Ataturk back in the 20s...Hence help extend his influence over the Islamic world...Nothing is what it seems with this guy...Having said that,I don't think Turkey has any other choice as national leader at present...They have to press on with Erdogan and hope that time and experience will moderate his more extremist agenda,and drive a secular, middle course between East and West,which is what I believe would be best for Turkey...
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Postby intermoon » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:52 am

georgios100 wrote:
intermoon wrote:Why does a Muslim country (Turkey) want to join EU?

According to my opinion it is an economic reasons why Turkey wants to join EU.

Why many EU Countries and Pope do not want Turkey to join EU?

Because the Western countries and Pope consider Islam to be the biggest threat because Islam is a True Religion and when the truth will be heard like falsehood, falsehood will perish as falsehood by its nature bound to perish.

According to Vetican, Islam has superceed Catholics and it has become the number one single religion in the world. statistics are taken from UN

Check with Vetican for your satisfaction.


You sound like the fanatic extremist islamist guy who posted the remarks on the original thread...


What is wrong to be extremely kind, extremely honest, extremely just, extremely truthful, extremely loving, extremely peaceful etc? Every Muslim should be extremist but in the right sense. Every Muslim should be fundamentalist also because to be a good Doctor, you need to know the fundamentals of medical science, to be a good mathematician; you need to know the fundamentals of math, same way to be a good Muslim he/she needs to know fundamentals of Islam. There is not a single fundamental of Islam which is against the humanity as a whole.

I am not from those guys (Muslims or Non Muslims) who spread hatred on the name of religion or any other reason. I love and consider all human beings as my brothers and sisters in humanity. I may dislike which some human beings do as I dislike if someone lies, steals, rape etc. and it becomes my duty to guide those and if they don’t stop, to stop them, it is same as Doctor hates the disease not the patient
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:09 pm

intermoon wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
intermoon wrote:Why does a Muslim country (Turkey) want to join EU?

According to my opinion it is an economic reasons why Turkey wants to join EU.

Why many EU Countries and Pope do not want Turkey to join EU?

Because the Western countries and Pope consider Islam to be the biggest threat because Islam is a True Religion and when the truth will be heard like falsehood, falsehood will perish as falsehood by its nature bound to perish.

According to Vetican, Islam has superceed Catholics and it has become the number one single religion in the world. statistics are taken from UN

Check with Vetican for your satisfaction.


You sound like the fanatic extremist islamist guy who posted the remarks on the original thread...


What is wrong to be extremely kind, extremely honest, extremely just, extremely truthful, extremely loving, extremely peaceful etc? Every Muslim should be extremist but in the right sense. Every Muslim should be fundamentalist also because to be a good Doctor, you need to know the fundamentals of medical science, to be a good mathematician; you need to know the fundamentals of math, same way to be a good Muslim he/she needs to know fundamentals of Islam. There is not a single fundamental of Islam which is against the humanity as a whole.

I am not from those guys (Muslims or Non Muslims) who spread hatred on the name of religion or any other reason. I love and consider all human beings as my brothers and sisters in humanity. I may dislike which some human beings do as I dislike if someone lies, steals, rape etc. and it becomes my duty to guide those and if they don’t stop, to stop them, it is same as Doctor hates the disease not the patient


inter...every religious person believes their religion is the True one,the only path to God and salvation...Now,even considering just the mono-Theist religions,there are 3 main variations.....Judaism,Christianity and Islam...Tell me why your religion is the right one and the others wrong...And how can you be so sure...???
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