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[Tim Drayton]

I have no problems calling numbers in the TRNC on my CyTA land line. For land lines you have to dial 00 90 392 before the number; for mobile numbers you simply dial 00 90 first. I have certainly made phone calls to the free areas of Cyprus from the north; I imagine you dial 00 357 first but can't remember exactly.

[Tim Drayton]

lol thats crazy, what about all the english ones why dont they get handed back?;p

Do a bit of googling for "Miran Thakrar".

[Tim Drayton]

From a BBC news report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7503118.stm

[...]

Thakrar immediately picked up his girlfriend, Amanda Dansie, and travelled with her to Turkish-occupied northern Cyprus, which has no formal extradition treaty with Britain.
His 21-year-old brother was arrested a few days later as he flew out to join him.
But northern Cyprus is no longer a sanctuary for criminals.
The authorities, keen to improve relations with European Union countries in the hope of pushing through the reunification of the island, are bending over backwards to help the British police.
A Turkish Cypriot diplomat based in London, Serap Destegur, said: "We don't want the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to have an image as a haven for criminals.
"Although there is no formal extradition treaty we will co-operate with the British authorities and did so in this case."
Thakrar soon found himself on a plane bound for Stansted and the local police even took statements from several witnesses who were not prepared to testify in the UK but said he had confessed to them while in Cyprus.

[...]

That was when Tatat was in power. I am curious to see whether, now that Eroğlu is in charge, the TRNC will revert to being a safe haven for criminals from other countries.

[vaughanwilliams]

I have no problems calling numbers in the TRNC on my CyTA land line. For land lines you have to dial 00 90 392 before the number; for mobile numbers you simply dial 00 90 first. I have certainly made phone calls to the free areas of Cyprus from the north; I imagine you dial 00 357 first but can't remember exactly.

Correct.
Don't forget to drop the first zero (0) of the mobile/phone code, e.g. 0090(Turkey) (0*)533(TurkCell) 123 4567.
Landlines here dialed from abroad all begin with 0090 (Turkey) (0*)392(TRNC) 123 4567.
(0*)=dropped

[Pyrpolizer]

@ halil & Yfred

The problem is not Muhtar A or Muhtar B. The problem is TECHNICAL.
Surely you can call from the north to UK or any other country from your mobile. DO you know why that is TECHNICALLY possible? Because Turkcell is joined with them. It has an account with them. The pay/charge each other...

The same thing is valid in the RoC controlled areas. And mind you it's not only CYTA that offers mobile phone connectivity. Is another 3-4 private companies.

@ halil:In case of emergency (it never happened to me anyway) i can easily use the UN telephone center.They connect very easily.

@ Yfred:Everybody can call each other from the occupied to the RoC areas through the UN. HOW MANY TIMES SHOULD I REPEAT IT? EVERYBODY. THe UN has about 50 free lines at any time. And they said if neededed they would offer more. But... guess what: The maximum usuage so far was 20 lines...

Pyro, it's because no fucker new they existed. Where does one have to go to make use of one of these lines? Finally why would I want to call anybody in the south, if I am not allowed to trade. Free trade via roc my arse.

The only way anybody in TRNC can communicate with the world is via Turkey. It has been since 1974.
Mail, Telephone and Travel have only been via Turkey and there are GCs that think we can just switch it off and turn our backs to Turkey.
Yeah and pigs will fly.

In the open prison that you used to live every communication with the outside world for 30+ years was through your Guardian.
What's so strange about it and why do you complain? It happens to every normal prison.

Thanks for the explanation about your Mamam Turka, it's a common syndrome of many prisoners.Free food, free sleep, no need to work, what else could anyone ask from life.

[YFred]

@ halil & Yfred

The problem is not Muhtar A or Muhtar B. The problem is TECHNICAL.
Surely you can call from the north to UK or any other country from your mobile. DO you know why that is TECHNICALLY possible? Because Turkcell is joined with them. It has an account with them. The pay/charge each other...

The same thing is valid in the RoC controlled areas. And mind you it's not only CYTA that offers mobile phone connectivity. Is another 3-4 private companies.

@ halil:In case of emergency (it never happened to me anyway) i can easily use the UN telephone center.They connect very easily.

@ Yfred:Everybody can call each other from the occupied to the RoC areas through the UN. HOW MANY TIMES SHOULD I REPEAT IT? EVERYBODY. THe UN has about 50 free lines at any time. And they said if neededed they would offer more. But... guess what: The maximum usuage so far was 20 lines...

Pyro, it's because no fucker new they existed. Where does one have to go to make use of one of these lines? Finally why would I want to call anybody in the south, if I am not allowed to trade. Free trade via roc my arse.

The only way anybody in TRNC can communicate with the world is via Turkey. It has been since 1974.
Mail, Telephone and Travel have only been via Turkey and there are GCs that think we can just switch it off and turn our backs to Turkey.
Yeah and pigs will fly.

In the open prison that you used to live every communication with the outside world for 30+ years was through your Guardian.
What's so strange about it and why do you complain? It happens to every normal prison.

Thanks for the explanation about your Mamam Turka, it's a common syndrome of many prisoners.Free food, free sleep, no need to work, what else could anyone ask from life.

Well at least we moved from ROC closed prison to a Turkish open prison. Between the two I know which one I prefer.
But do not worry it is only our bodies that are imprisoned not our minds. We have always been free.
Enjoy.




We will bring down your walls one by one, sooner or later.

Fitil yandi bir kere.

[Malapapa]

Just as the RoC is offensive to us and represent the suffering of TCs, could you please refer to it as south Cyprus?

The RoC - for all its faults, many of which were imposed on the Cypriot people by outsiders - is recognised throughout the world, including myself, as a legitimate political entity. So no can do.

But like georgios, I often use the term "free Cyprus" when referring to the part of the island not currently controlled by Turkey's army.

[Malapapa]

I cannot call TRNC numbers on my Cyta mobile. I sometimes get the message 'this call is not allowed'.

Skype works just fine however.

Do you recognise the legitimacy of the TRNC?

If not, perhaps you might consider showing some sensitivity, and doing people here the courtesy of referring to it either in inverted commas, as northern Cyprus, or any other such politically neutral term. The term TRNC is offensive to many, if not most of those who participate in the Cyprus Forum; and for very good reason.

Mal you are a clever guy

Thanks.

but please dont telll gasman what to do. Perhaps others should tell her not to recognise the ROc as turkey does not do.

It was a polite request, not an instruction. (I'm hardly in a position to tell people what to do here). It's somewhat disturbing you appear unable to tell the difference.

[georgios100]

A Greek Cypriot fugitive who crossed into the TRNC after fleeing from a police station in South Cyprus – has been handed over to Greek Cypriot authorities. Andreas Onoufriou had been kept at the Paralimni police station for possessing explosive material.

He escaped from station together with Turkish citizen Kayar Ahmet and crossed into the TRNC on the 20th of April.

According to information provided by the Head of the Turkish delegation of the Technical Committee on Crime and Criminal Matters Hakki Onen, Onoufriou and Ahmet were arrested by TRNC police after the Greek Cypriot Administration informed the committee on the issue and demanded Onoufriou’s extradition.

Omoufriou – who committed no crimes in the TRNC – was handed over to Greek Cypriot authorities at the presence of UN officials with the minutes of the handover procedure

"after the Greek Cypriot Administration informed the committee on the issue and demanded Onoufriou’s extradition."

How could the GC police demand extradition from a country that doesn't exist? And I'm not sure you can "demand" extradition - surely you ask nicely?

I am sure they did ask very nicely,VW...

None of the above. I am pretty sure Onoufriou realized his "new" country is hell on earth and demanded to be handed back to RoC Authorities. Even the central jailhouse in Nicosia is a better place to do time instead of some junk yard up north. A wise choice.

Georgios100

From what I hear the Jailhouse in North Nicosia is filled to capacity plus some...And they are reportedly mostly settlers...Mr Onoufriou would not have been very comfortable if he was held there,so you might well be right...

Mr Onoufriou knew that and chose the south Nicosia jail, where he belongs after the crimes he committed, thanks for pointing that out Bir.

BTW, what's the story with too many settlers occupying most of the jail house? Are you implying these settlers are outcast from Turkey & find refuge in TNRC? Can you expand on it?

[Pyrpolizer]

@ halil & Yfred

The problem is not Muhtar A or Muhtar B. The problem is TECHNICAL.
Surely you can call from the north to UK or any other country from your mobile. DO you know why that is TECHNICALLY possible? Because Turkcell is joined with them. It has an account with them. The pay/charge each other...

The same thing is valid in the RoC controlled areas. And mind you it's not only CYTA that offers mobile phone connectivity. Is another 3-4 private companies.

@ halil:In case of emergency (it never happened to me anyway) i can easily use the UN telephone center.They connect very easily.

@ Yfred:Everybody can call each other from the occupied to the RoC areas through the UN. HOW MANY TIMES SHOULD I REPEAT IT? EVERYBODY. THe UN has about 50 free lines at any time. And they said if neededed they would offer more. But... guess what: The maximum usuage so far was 20 lines...

Pyro, it's because no fucker new they existed. Where does one have to go to make use of one of these lines? Finally why would I want to call anybody in the south, if I am not allowed to trade. Free trade via roc my arse.

The only way anybody in TRNC can communicate with the world is via Turkey. It has been since 1974.
Mail, Telephone and Travel have only been via Turkey and there are GCs that think we can just switch it off and turn our backs to Turkey.
Yeah and pigs will fly.

In the open prison that you used to live every communication with the outside world for 30+ years was through your Guardian.
What's so strange about it and why do you complain? It happens to every normal prison.

Thanks for the explanation about your Mamam Turka, it's a common syndrome of many prisoners.Free food, free sleep, no need to work, what else could anyone ask from life.

Well at least we moved from ROC closed prison to a Turkish open prison. Between the two I know which one I prefer.
But do not worry it is only our bodies that are imprisoned not our minds. We have always been free.
Enjoy.

We will bring down your walls one by one, sooner or later.

Fitil yandi bir kere.

The question WAS and still IS why are you complaining