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[YFred]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

So it has absolutely nothing to do with suffocation with love that the TCs are suffering from their GC cousins in the southern lands under the leadership of Muhtaro X.

No, it's obvious the lad voted with his feet after the recent elections.

You obviously ain't got a clue. How do you know what he voted for?
Selfishness shines through every time. Golly gee. Mavro yerimo naminun.

[Me Ed]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

So it has absolutely nothing to do with suffocation with love that the TCs are suffering from their GC cousins in the southern lands under the leadership of Muhtaro X.

No, it's obvious the lad voted with his feet after the recent elections.

You obviously ain't got a clue. How do you know what he voted for?
Selfishness shines through every time. Golly gee. Navro yerimo naminun.

1) All cypriots want a solution
2) The settler majority up north elect Eroglu in
3) A TC leaves for a better life and prospects in Australia

Ummmmmm ....

[YFred]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

So it has absolutely nothing to do with suffocation with love that the TCs are suffering from their GC cousins in the southern lands under the leadership of Muhtaro X.

No, it's obvious the lad voted with his feet after the recent elections.

You obviously ain't got a clue. How do you know what he voted for?
Selfishness shines through every time. Golly gee. Mavro yerimo naminun.

1) All cypriots want a solution
2) The settler majority up north elect Eroglu in
3) A TC leaves for a better life and prospects in Australia

Ummmmmm ....

Yes Simon. Anything else?

[cymart]

After waiting over thirty years for the solution that was always supposed to be coming 'soon' me and my wife are seriously beginning to consider whether it is worth holding on here any longer,especially with the way things are looking now??The next few months will be crucial so by the end of this year we will be able to decide whether to look for somewhere else to go and live.I had a very good chance to go to New Zealand before we decided to come back to Cyprus in the late 70's,naively believing then that the problem here really would be sorted out very soon,although if I had read recent history then more carefully before deciding,I would probably have not come here....there has been this kind of speculation in Cyprus ever since then troubles started in the 1960's and it is still going on now!
O.K. so I was not born here,even though I now have dual citizenship and have spent much of my adult life in Cyprus,but it is a tragedy not just for the young couple described at the head of this thread but also for many others including my in-laws who have waited patiently in London hoping to return to Varosha for so many years.They are now both in their eighties and I think we have to admit that with the way things are going here now they are unlikely to return in this lifetime......
Of course there are other people in a far worse situation than them in many other parts of the world but I think we can say that it is just further proof that all wars and conflicts ultimately bring only misery and unhappiness that lasts far beyond the duration of the conflict?

[B25]

Look, lets just cut to the chase.

This fella is leaving because he married an Aussie bride and she wants to go home.

My koumbaro did the same thing and he has been gone 30 years.

This has NOTHING to do with the current situation, it's just that shit stirrers like Halil like to sensationalise and spread propoganda about any situation.

Yfred, has nothing to do with his cousins in the south nor pres X. His missis is telling him what to do nothing else.

So, noxt time Halil wants to shovel shit, perhaps he can pick a better example.

There are people with Ph.D in the UK working in Mc Donalds, fuck all to do with any 'suffocation' of the TCs.

Halil, keep your crap for Baycrap.

[YFred]

Look, lets just cut to the chase.

This fella is leaving because he married an Aussie bride and she wants to go home.

My koumbaro did the same thing and he has been gone 30 years.

This has NOTHING to do with the current situation, it's just that shit stirrers like Halil like to sensationalise and spread propoganda about any situation.

Yfred, has nothing to do with his cousins in the south nor pres X. His missis is telling him what to do nothing else.

So, noxt time Halil wants to shovel shit, perhaps he can pick a better example.

There are people with Ph.D in the UK working in Mc Donalds, fuck all to do with any 'suffocation' of the TCs.

Halil, keep your crap for Baycrap.

Of course it had nothing to do with suffocation with love. What ever you say. After all you are GC so you must be right.

[humanist]

halil

In what home? First of all their first homeland was totally razed off and in their seconed home now GC refugees are sitting. Is it that much easy to kick them out from the house? things are not simple as u thing andreas.

Parents were citizan of the''ROC'' when they kicked out first time from their own homes in 1963 andreas . They were moved to refugees home in Paphos Andreas and in 1975 they moved away from Paphos to morpho.

Their seconed refugee home is in Morpho now.

Boy is graduated 2 years ago from university..... without job and no future! Lots of young boys are at same position in North. They are hoping that there will be workable solution can be find to BloodyCyprus problem that they can not be again refugee or immigrate to other countries.

halil, in all fairness it really is sad, that young TC's are leaving. I currently live in a multicultural society and I love it. I love the fact that I am exposed to different types of food, languages and cultures all in one country. I find it sad that Cyprus will lose part of its unique culture and that is the contributions of both Turkish and Greek influence which make Cyprus at least for me unique.

However, I still make my point the scenario you painted above is sad, however it applies to another 200,000 that you have forgoten to include in your post. It is also much easier for TC's to return to their homes than the GC's. I think needs to be acknowledged.

Cyprus problem will not be solved in a hurry by politicians, the fact that now you have more settlers and descendats thereof, who will continue to vote for pro Turkish leaders as opposed to pro Cypriot leaders is a sad thing for your community and indeed for all Cypriots.

Sadly in my view, unless all Cypriots change their mind set and accept one Cypriot identity and fight for a truly united Cyprus we will never in our lifetime see peace.

So for at least another 5 years we have the status quo, because the GC's will never accept confederation and that is precisely what your current leader is pushing for, so we will have stalemate.

[humanist]

YFred

Of course it had nothing to do with suffocation with love. What ever you say. After all you are GC so you must be right.

at last recognition that GC;s are always right hehehehehe

[YFred]

YFred

Of course it had nothing to do with suffocation with love. What ever you say. After all you are GC so you must be right.

at last recognition that GC;s are always right hehehehehe

What I don't understand is how you chose the name humanist. What arrogance. More like arsholist if you ask me.

Do not worry my friend, all your wrong doings will eventually come back and bite you in the arse, one by one.

[halil]

@ humanist,

I didn't created any scenario ..... their my family !

it is not easy as u are saying they can stay in ''ROC'' some one sits in their home in south.

there is lots of differences between south and north Andrea. It is not that much easy for a new life in south... First of all person has to feel that they can make a life at south. By going daily trips or working over there are not same as u settle down and live. Thats what i hear from the peoples Andrea.

It is not easy as u imagine. These comunities are seperated more than 40 years now. they have uneasiness ........They need to trust........They need time. It cant be just like that u clamp your hands. how they can come and sit over their most of u see them as thief. most of u thinking, they never lost anything..... no one thinks that their life was like hell since 1963.

ofcourse they know around 165000 GC's left their homes too. I will remind u again those people of Morpho said yes to annan plan....all GC's from Morpho was returning back to their homes.

First of all our leaders are talking BBF system at talks...not confederation !

New president of TRNC letter to UN SG said other day that he is ready to talk what Talat and Christofias agreed on 23rd May 2008. ı hope u knew what was all about.