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[denizaksulu]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

[Pyrpolizer]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

Not wrong very few ever return. Some of them copy their overseas business to here, sometimes they just buy a home for their holidays, sometimes they become lifetime tourists...

[YFred]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

So it has absolutely nothing to do with suffocation with love that the TCs are suffering from their GC cousins in the southern lands under the leadership of Muhtaro X.

[Gasman]

True. However, in the case of North Cyprus one has to ask whether we are witnessing a conscious programme aimed at altering the composition of the population.

How would that apply in the case of the young man in question? Is there some programme that is importing Aus women into TRNC to get them to marry TC men and cart them back to Aus with them?

As for his degree. I mentioned the UK West Country before - they have graduates picking daffodils down there in the summer.

[boomerang]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

Not wrong very few ever return. Some of them copy their overseas business to here, sometimes they just buy a home for their holidays, sometimes they become lifetime tourists...

on the never returning, so true...we are spoilt...

a case of following the bride...i wish them good luck, but the stack is against the young man...life here is on a faster pace from what he is used...he will have to adopt quickly...

[Tim Drayton]

True. However, in the case of North Cyprus one has to ask whether we are witnessing a conscious programme aimed at altering the composition of the population.

How would that apply in the case of the young man in question? Is there some programme that is importing Aus women into TRNC to get them to marry TC men and cart them back to Aus with them?

As for his degree. I mentioned the UK West Country before - they have graduates picking daffodils down there in the summer.

This sort of generalisation does not necessarily apply to each individual case. The fact remains that for many decades native Turkish Cypriots have been leaving the island, and their places have been taken by migrants from Turkey. The long-term end result is that the population structure of the north of Cyprus has undergoing radical change, making the place culturally much closer to mainland Turkey. The question is whether this is by accident or design.

[Me Ed]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

So it has absolutely nothing to do with suffocation with love that the TCs are suffering from their GC cousins in the southern lands under the leadership of Muhtaro X.

No, it's obvious the lad voted with his feet after the recent elections.

[denizaksulu]

Unfortunately the people of Cyprus have always been looking for pastures anew. It has always meant sadness for those left behind. We can wish him good luck and hope for his return one day to a new united Cyprus. There must be over half a million Cyprus extracts (my rough guestimate inclusive of descendants) all over the globe who have left for various reasons. Some have left for economic comfort, some have been displaced, some are discontent and want peace of mind. If there are any politicians that really care, they should make our beautiful island a place to be happy and proud to live in for all in the diaspora. (is there enough room?).

This young lad and his wife leaving surely is symbolic of the times we live in.

How many CF members living in Oz will return to Cyprus to live. I'd say very few few, despite what they say. Am I wrong?

So it has absolutely nothing to do with suffocation with love that the TCs are suffering from their GC cousins in the southern lands under the leadership of Muhtaro X.

That is covered when I said 'displaced'. Like the GCs displaced too. Some at the end of the bayonet and some the fear of it and the rest through suffocation.

[Pyrpolizer]

True. However, in the case of North Cyprus one has to ask whether we are witnessing a conscious programme aimed at altering the composition of the population.

How would that apply in the case of the young man in question? Is there some programme that is importing Aus women into TRNC to get them to marry TC men and cart them back to Aus with them?

As for his degree. I mentioned the UK West Country before - they have graduates picking daffodils down there in the summer.

This sort of generalisation does not necessarily apply to each individual case. The fact remains that for many decades native Turkish Cypriots have been leaving the island, and their places have been taken by migrants from Turkey. The long-term end result is that the population structure of the north of Cyprus has undergoing radical change, making the place culturally much closer to mainland Turkey. The question is whether this is by accident or design.

Immediately after the invassion in 1974 there were too many empty houses in the occupied area Tim. Imagine 180,000 GC were expelled and only 60,000 TCs moved there in 1975.
So settlers came in and they were given houses and lands.
At some point TCs realised there is a problem with this demographic change, for one they couldn't go along well with the settlers and secondly the settlers were taking all the jobs working for peanuts.

Under these conditions many TCs started emmigrating with their families. The very next day a settler would occupy both their houses and their lands.

When they complained to Denktash about it, he said the famous phrase "no problem - a Turk goes another Turk comes" At the same time Denktash noticed that settlers were favouring him with his votes so he started giving the settlers citizenship easily. I don't think he encouraged TC emmigration, but for sure he did not think of it as a problem...

I beleive until 2004 there was no real design/planning. After that is seems there is some planning to flood the occupied with as many settlers as possible and make the TCs leave. They have a problem now however because there are no more empty houses and lands available. Imo the number of settlers in the occupied has already reached the maximum possible.

And this effort does not stop to just the occupied. There is an organised scheme sending hundreds from Turkey through the occupied to the free areas as well. Only a part of them are Turks, while all of them are mouslims though.
We send back the majority of them but still some stay...

[denizaksulu]

Don't worry, Turkey doesn't really care either ... as we speak they already preparing a settler to take his place.

with help of your lots........ have a good honeymoon with settlers.... future is all yours in this island....but what kind of future, just imagine it.... u will cry for Turkish cypriots .... come and safe u from their hand ... i am afraid it is too late.

why so much animosity towards the settlers?...weren't you the one boasting how you have assimilated them and they are more tcs than the tcs?...weren't you the one claimimg the minority assimilated the settlers into tcs?...werer't yo the one claiming you are all tc in the north?...weren't you the one telling deniz, that it's different form the UK?...

why whine when one of you leaves?...

here is what you said

Deniz gardash i bet u noticed how TC's are caring about their identities thats why we have lots of groups in facebook .which i invited u too join in.
we are all caring very well about culture, about our dialog very lately people are saying very loudly about our idendity and no power in the earth can able to take it from us. Also those Turkish peoples from Turkey kids are very strong supporter of TC id Deniz. They call them self Cypriot too. Their fathers might think differently from them Deniz but young generation does not follow them. Most of us kids are married to their sons or daughters. 35 years past Deniz .... long time in human beings life. Have a look how the TC kids are growing up in UK. Are they thinking same as our kids? no way... they all grow up in different culture Deniz.

the question is how come you changed your tune and consider the settlers as not cypriots?...

Gee man!! Halil really likes to use my name a lot.