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[SKI-preo]

Yes one more of our young boy is on his way to Australia.....

I think it is sad.

But I hope this bloke has sympathy for refugees who were forced to move 16,000kms away to the "arse end of the world". I hope he does not think that Greek Cypriot refugees have to "pay". This includes kids,babies & grandmothers who are refugees.

I am glad that this young boy had the benefit of growing up in Cyprus. I hope he feels sympathy for those refugees forced to grow up half way through child hood as foreigners in exile with fragmented identities. I hope this kid does not have to do filthy work like cleaning toilets to support a shellshocked refugee family as a child. He probably grew up in Kyrenia in Paradise.

I wish him all the best and hope he can return to his birth place one day. I hope he shares the same hope for me but I think he probably regrets that Ecevit failed to burn me alive like many other people from my village.

I hope this bloke is leaving his house well fed,with shoes on his feet not bare foot or with slippers,and clothes not pyjamas at 4 am. I hope he has been fed, clothed, he is wearing shoes, his family are not burned. I hope he has a shipping container full of comforts and he has a suitcase full of warm comfortable clothes,I hope he has he already made arrangement like where he will live and where he will work. I hope he never had to sleep a single night with no roof over his head. I hope he understands the hunger,fear and humiliation refugee children felt living for days in pyjamas for days, under trees for shelter with members of their family burned alive, shot in the head in mass executions, taken alive to Turkey as prisoners and never heard from again. Does he think refugees should be restricted from returning to thier homes? He probably will say yes.

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[halil]

Sad story.
Unfortunately the Cyprus problem causes suffering to both sides. In Physics they say every ACTION causes an equal and opposite REACTION. This story tells the results of the REACTION....

Anyway just curious why do you only talk about the boy? How about the bride? Is she TC, settler, Australian, what?

She is from Australia .

[halil]

Yes one more of our young boy is on his way to Australia.....

I think it is sad.

But I hope this bloke has sympathy for refugees who were forced to move 16,000kms away to the "arse end of the world". I hope he does not think that Greek Cypriot refugees have to "pay". This includes kids,babies & grandmothers who are refugees.

I am glad that this young boy had the benefit of growing up in Cyprus. I hope he feels sympathy for those refugees forced to grow up half way through child hood as foreigners in exile with fragmented identities. I hope this kid does not have to do filthy work like cleaning toilets to support a shellshocked refugee family as a child. He probably grew up in Kyrenia in Paradise.

I wish him all the best and hope he can return to his birth place one day. I hope he shares the same hope for me but I think he probably regrets that Ecevit failed to burn me alive like many other people from my village.

I hope this bloke is leaving his house well fed,with shoes on his feet not bare foot or with slippers,and clothes not pyjamas at 4 am. I hope he has been fed, clothed, he is wearing shoes, his family are not burned. I hope he has a shipping container full of comforts and he has a suitcase full of warm comfortable clothes,I hope he has he already made arrangement like where he will live and where he will work. I hope he never had to sleep a single night with no roof over his head. I hope he understands the hunger,fear and humiliation refugee children felt living for days in pyjamas for days, under trees for shelter with members of their family burned alive, shot in the head in mass executions, taken alive to Turkey as prisoners and never heard from again. Does he think refugees should be restricted from returning to thier homes? He probably will say yes.

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His family also refugee From Paphos.... his family became twice refugee in their lifes. Ofcourse they feel sad about GC's refugges too. They said yes to Annan Plan that GC'S will come and stay in Morpho and they were ready to become third time refugee. They only wanted solution and future in Cyprus.

[Pyrpolizer]

Sad story.
Unfortunately the Cyprus problem causes suffering to both sides. In Physics they say every ACTION causes an equal and opposite REACTION. This story tells the results of the REACTION....

Anyway just curious why do you only talk about the boy? How about the bride? Is she TC, settler, Australian, what?

She is from Australia .

That makes it a totally different story halil. The sorrow is only for the parents having to lose their son for an Australian bride. Let's not confuse the issues...

I would also emmigrate to Australia today if I were young and just married. Much much better prospects for living even compared with the RoC....

You are right about the TC refugees in Morfou. I met many of them, very respectable people with honour and good will towards a solution.

[Gasman]

That makes it a totally different story halil.

Yes it does. TOTALLY different. He is off to a country where he already has 'family' waiting for him. A country where his wife feels at home (I am struggling to think of many who would choose present day TRNC over Aus if they had the chance and were able to go) and I am sure his wife falls into that category.

Had there never been any Cy probs, this young man, and others like him would probably have opted for a life in Aus over remaining in a country like Cyprus anyway.

There are many people in the world who would gladly swap places with him for the chance to live in Aus or NZ. People who haven't married an Aussie or Kiwi and just are not allowed in. Including all those who are considered too old to be allowed in (I believe the cut off age for NZ is 54 and even then you have to meet a lot of very strict criteria).

I'd have liked to live in NZ. But accept that it is not possible - there are lots of things in life that would be nice but are not realistically achievable nor possible for lots of people.

This young man is now sounding more like a very LUCKY young man.

[YFred]

That makes it a totally different story halil.

Yes it does. TOTALLY different. He is off to a country where he already has 'family' waiting for him. A country where his wife feels at home (I am struggling to think of many who would choose present day TRNC over Aus if they had the chance and were able to go) and I am sure his wife falls into that category.

Had there never been any Cy probs, this young man, and others like him would probably have opted for a life in Aus over remaining in a country like Cyprus anyway.

There are many people in the world who would gladly swap places with him for the chance to live in Aus or NZ. People who haven't married an Aussie or Kiwi and just are not allowed in. Including all those who are considered too old to be allowed in (I believe the cut off age for NZ is 54 and even then you have to meet a lot of very strict criteria).

I'd have liked to live in NZ. But accept that it is not possible - there are lots of things in life that would be nice but are not realistically achievable nor possible for lots of people.

This young man is now sounding more like a very LUCKY young man.

At least ask those who made the same journey some time ago to see if it is still their preferred choice and would they recommend it?

[humanist]

sad to hear ...... one correction ...... his parents are not refugees because they have the choice to return to Paphos immediately and take up RoC citizenship in a legal european nation...... very much the opposite others in that country are,

[YFred]

sad to hear ...... one correction ...... his parents are not refugees because they have the choice to return to Paphos immediately and take up RoC citizenship in a legal european nation...... very much the opposite others in that country are,

It must be bliss living in total ignorance. Perhaps one day you can pluck up some yorkshire bitter and go up to this person and ask why they missed out on such a fantastic proposion.

[Tim Drayton]

It is very sad. But it happens elsewhere too. Young people leave the West Country in the UK because the job opportunities are just not there for them and the house prices have been driven up high by incomers from 'up country'. And, similar to Cyprus really, it seems mainly 'pensioners' who move in to replace them (pensioners are not worried about job opportunities, schools, etc).

My eldest son travels all over the world with his job. He is not sure where he will eventually settle, but says that most of the countries he'd like to settle in just don't have enough industry of the sort he works in. None of my 3 adult offspring would live here in the RoC on account of there just not being enough job opportunity.

Hopefully this young man leaving for Aus will have a wonderful life out there.

True. However, in the case of North Cyprus one has to ask whether we are witnessing a conscious programme aimed at altering the composition of the population.

[halil]

sad to hear ...... one correction ...... his parents are not refugees because they have the choice to return to Paphos immediately and take up RoC citizenship in a legal european nation...... very much the opposite others in that country are,

In what home? First of all their first homeland was totally razed off and in their seconed home now GC refugees are sitting. Is it that much easy to kick them out from the house? things are not simple as u thing andreas.

Parents were citizan of the''ROC'' when they kicked out first time from their own homes in 1963 andreas . They were moved to refugees home in Paphos Andreas and in 1975 they moved away from Paphos to morpho.

Their seconed refugee home is in Morpho now.

Boy is graduated 2 years ago from university..... without job and no future! Lots of young boys are at same position in North. They are hoping that there will be workable solution can be find to BloodyCyprus problem that they can not be again refugee or immigrate to other countries.