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ECEVIT MONUMENT OPENED !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby YFred » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:54 pm

bigOz wrote:
miltiades wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"during 1974 to bury live, hundreds "

No need to get carried away now! The Sandalaris killings accounted for less than 70 people, not that the number makes it any less disgusting, but "hundreds", "buried alive" is a mite exaggerated.


Oh NO! Please do not make me go over this again (have done it in this forum 2-3 times already; the stage is the same but the actors keep revolving like a very long Broadway musical).

The massacres you refer to had happened more than just Sandallar (I belive in 3 places but can only recall Atlılar as the other one at this time). They exclude the TCs buried with your GC comrades in Limassol area - as confessed by one of your GC priests! I am sue I have kept the article somewhere in my computer folders. If you insist I shall be happy to quote it for you.

But all this is beside the point. The point I was trying to make is - why constantly blame the TCs for things that the GC had also been actively carrying out for decades? I can dig out the civilian casualty figures for 1963-64 and later too. Unfortunately, a lot of GC civilians also had to suffer during these times .

But the question you should ask is "who initiated these attacks and why?". I am absolutely sure that you will find it was the fanatic GCs lead by EOKA-B leadership on each occasion. So what is it exactly GCs blaming the TCs for? You go and poke/wound a sleeping young neighbor and get hurt as a result, because his brother decides to pick up his shotgun and shoot your balls off!

The day when GCs stop looking for excuses by misleading historic facts and recognise TCs as their equal, will be when a solution may be possible. Until then it is nothing more than mud slinging and verbal abuse between members of both comunities... :(

What exactly are you putting forward ? Are you suggesting that the G/C extremists who committed this vile acts are more blood thirsty than the T/C extremists who committed equal vile acts. We have covered this issue hundreds of times. The guilty were the extremists , the misguided nationalists who had Greece or Turkey as their motherland. These were the bastards who caused these hideous crimes not your average decent morally orientated T/C or G/C .


I agree with you all the way and have no arguments there.

What I am putting forward is with reference to the same extremist idiots in this forum who create posts (as was the case earlier in this thread) displaying the TCs attacking poor GCs over the same decades - and look at the reaction of the ignorant peasant who now wants me to educate him in historic facts, after claiming the statement "hundreds of TCs were buried using earth diggers" is outrageous!

I just remembered why I gave up these arguments and log on to Cyprus-Forum once every 3-4 months. Good luck Miltiades... :(

It was Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallilar, 200 women, children and old men were killed. One survied to tell the tale. All the young men were taken away just before by the GCNG.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:05 pm

bigOz wrote:
miltiades wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"during 1974 to bury live, hundreds "

No need to get carried away now! The Sandalaris killings accounted for less than 70 people, not that the number makes it any less disgusting, but "hundreds", "buried alive" is a mite exaggerated.


Oh NO! Please do not make me go over this again (have done it in this forum 2-3 times already; the stage is the same but the actors keep revolving like a very long Broadway musical).

The massacres you refer to had happened more than just Sandallar (I belive in 3 places but can only recall Atlılar as the other one at this time). They exclude the TCs buried with your GC comrades in Limassol area - as confessed by one of your GC priests! I am sue I have kept the article somewhere in my computer folders. If you insist I shall be happy to quote it for you.

But all this is beside the point. The point I was trying to make is - why constantly blame the TCs for things that the GC had also been actively carrying out for decades? I can dig out the civilian casualty figures for 1963-64 and later too. Unfortunately, a lot of GC civilians also had to suffer during these times .

But the question you should ask is "who initiated these attacks and why?". I am absolutely sure that you will find it was the fanatic GCs lead by EOKA-B leadership on each occasion. So what is it exactly GCs blaming the TCs for? You go and poke/wound a sleeping young neighbor and get hurt as a result, because his brother decides to pick up his shotgun and shoot your balls off!

The day when GCs stop looking for excuses by misleading historic facts and recognise TCs as their equal, will be when a solution may be possible. Until then it is nothing more than mud slinging and verbal abuse between members of both comunities... :(

What exactly are you putting forward ? Are you suggesting that the G/C extremists who committed this vile acts are more blood thirsty than the T/C extremists who committed equal vile acts. We have covered this issue hundreds of times. The guilty were the extremists , the misguided nationalists who had Greece or Turkey as their motherland. These were the bastards who caused these hideous crimes not your average decent morally orientated T/C or G/C .


I agree with you all the way and have no arguments there.

What I am putting forward is with reference to the same extremist idiots in this forum who create posts (as was the case earlier in this thread) displaying the TCs attacking poor GCs over the same decades - and look at the reaction of the ignorant peasant who now wants me to educate him in historic facts, after claiming the statement "hundreds of TCs were buried using earth diggers" is outrageous!

I just remembered why I gave up these arguments and log on to Cyprus-Forum once every 3-4 months. Good luck Miltiades... :(


Er ... before you go... can you educate this ignorant peasant please?

You did promise a history lesson to back up your words about "Earth Diggers" and "Live" tissies, " hundreds" and Mass Graves.
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Postby B25 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:08 pm

YFred wrote:
bigOz wrote:
miltiades wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"during 1974 to bury live, hundreds "

No need to get carried away now! The Sandalaris killings accounted for less than 70 people, not that the number makes it any less disgusting, but "hundreds", "buried alive" is a mite exaggerated.


Oh NO! Please do not make me go over this again (have done it in this forum 2-3 times already; the stage is the same but the actors keep revolving like a very long Broadway musical).

The massacres you refer to had happened more than just Sandallar (I belive in 3 places but can only recall Atlılar as the other one at this time). They exclude the TCs buried with your GC comrades in Limassol area - as confessed by one of your GC priests! I am sue I have kept the article somewhere in my computer folders. If you insist I shall be happy to quote it for you.

But all this is beside the point. The point I was trying to make is - why constantly blame the TCs for things that the GC had also been actively carrying out for decades? I can dig out the civilian casualty figures for 1963-64 and later too. Unfortunately, a lot of GC civilians also had to suffer during these times .

But the question you should ask is "who initiated these attacks and why?". I am absolutely sure that you will find it was the fanatic GCs lead by EOKA-B leadership on each occasion. So what is it exactly GCs blaming the TCs for? You go and poke/wound a sleeping young neighbor and get hurt as a result, because his brother decides to pick up his shotgun and shoot your balls off!

The day when GCs stop looking for excuses by misleading historic facts and recognise TCs as their equal, will be when a solution may be possible. Until then it is nothing more than mud slinging and verbal abuse between members of both comunities... :(

What exactly are you putting forward ? Are you suggesting that the G/C extremists who committed this vile acts are more blood thirsty than the T/C extremists who committed equal vile acts. We have covered this issue hundreds of times. The guilty were the extremists , the misguided nationalists who had Greece or Turkey as their motherland. These were the bastards who caused these hideous crimes not your average decent morally orientated T/C or G/C .


I agree with you all the way and have no arguments there.

What I am putting forward is with reference to the same extremist idiots in this forum who create posts (as was the case earlier in this thread) displaying the TCs attacking poor GCs over the same decades - and look at the reaction of the ignorant peasant who now wants me to educate him in historic facts, after claiming the statement "hundreds of TCs were buried using earth diggers" is outrageous!

I just remembered why I gave up these arguments and log on to Cyprus-Forum once every 3-4 months. Good luck Miltiades... :(

It was Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallilar, 200 women, children and old men were killed. One survied to tell the tale. All the young men were taken away just before by the GCNG.
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200, what only? How does that tally with the thousands you murdered in '74, not to mention the 1600+ missing.

200 may have been killed, but you are the still the masters of murder, rape and massecre, we don't even come close.

Seems you always blame us for not considering your community, but you are 1000 times more guilty. You make it sound as if you are angels and always playing victim here.

For every TC that got killed I can show 15+ GC you murdered in response.

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Postby YFred » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:10 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
bigOz wrote:
miltiades wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"during 1974 to bury live, hundreds "

No need to get carried away now! The Sandalaris killings accounted for less than 70 people, not that the number makes it any less disgusting, but "hundreds", "buried alive" is a mite exaggerated.


Oh NO! Please do not make me go over this again (have done it in this forum 2-3 times already; the stage is the same but the actors keep revolving like a very long Broadway musical).

The massacres you refer to had happened more than just Sandallar (I belive in 3 places but can only recall Atlılar as the other one at this time). They exclude the TCs buried with your GC comrades in Limassol area - as confessed by one of your GC priests! I am sue I have kept the article somewhere in my computer folders. If you insist I shall be happy to quote it for you.

But all this is beside the point. The point I was trying to make is - why constantly blame the TCs for things that the GC had also been actively carrying out for decades? I can dig out the civilian casualty figures for 1963-64 and later too. Unfortunately, a lot of GC civilians also had to suffer during these times .

But the question you should ask is "who initiated these attacks and why?". I am absolutely sure that you will find it was the fanatic GCs lead by EOKA-B leadership on each occasion. So what is it exactly GCs blaming the TCs for? You go and poke/wound a sleeping young neighbor and get hurt as a result, because his brother decides to pick up his shotgun and shoot your balls off!

The day when GCs stop looking for excuses by misleading historic facts and recognise TCs as their equal, will be when a solution may be possible. Until then it is nothing more than mud slinging and verbal abuse between members of both comunities... :(

What exactly are you putting forward ? Are you suggesting that the G/C extremists who committed this vile acts are more blood thirsty than the T/C extremists who committed equal vile acts. We have covered this issue hundreds of times. The guilty were the extremists , the misguided nationalists who had Greece or Turkey as their motherland. These were the bastards who caused these hideous crimes not your average decent morally orientated T/C or G/C .


I agree with you all the way and have no arguments there.

What I am putting forward is with reference to the same extremist idiots in this forum who create posts (as was the case earlier in this thread) displaying the TCs attacking poor GCs over the same decades - and look at the reaction of the ignorant peasant who now wants me to educate him in historic facts, after claiming the statement "hundreds of TCs were buried using earth diggers" is outrageous!

I just remembered why I gave up these arguments and log on to Cyprus-Forum once every 3-4 months. Good luck Miltiades... :(


Er ... before you go... can you educate this ignorant peasant please?

You did promise a history lesson to back up your words about "Earth Diggers" and "Live" tissies, " hundreds" and Mass Graves.

Isn't 200 at Atlilar, Sandallilar and Murataga mass enough for you. Thewhole is deep, serves no pupose digging any further. If it's oil you are after, you is digging in the wrong place.
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Re: ECEVIT MONUMENT OPENED !!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby georgios100 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:54 am

halil wrote:A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

The Monument was erected at the park in front of the Bülent Ecevit High School in the Göçmenköy-Nicosia.


... to be bulldozed immediately upon RoC authority is exercised all over Cyprus.
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Postby EricSeans » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:50 am

The more statues of foreign politicians the more insecure the host territory. Especially when they come 36 years after their time.

It's backward Third World stuff...
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Postby DTA » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:59 am

EricSeans wrote:The more statues of foreign politicians the more insecure the host territory. Especially when they come 36 years after their time.

It's backward Third World stuff...


You are right in a way but your views are distorted by (i guess) the fact that you got court up in the 1974 intervention, is this true? what you need to try to do is see both sides.
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Re: ECEVIT MONUMENT OPENED !!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:08 am

halil wrote:A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

This “Turkish Cypriot” gesture alone speaks volumes about their treasonous intentions.
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Re: ECEVIT MONUMENT OPENED !!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby DTA » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:10 am

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

This “Turkish Cypriot” gesture alone speaks volumes about their treasonous intentions.


Brother what about Grivas?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:20 am

DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

This “Turkish Cypriot” gesture alone speaks volumes about their treasonous intentions.


Brother what about Grivas?

The Grivas statue has already been met with statues from TMT adversaries of the same period, but why Ecevit?
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