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[Nikitas]

"during 1974 to bury live, hundreds "

No need to get carried away now! The Sandalaris killings accounted for less than 70 people, not that the number makes it any less disgusting, but "hundreds", "buried alive" is a mite exaggerated.

[bill cobbett]

A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

The Monument was erected at the park in front of the Bülent Ecevit High School in the Göçmenköy-Nicosia.

Silly question ..... Are there any statues to tissy people in the Occupied North?

Seems to me (and suspect others) there must be factories spewing out grotesques in memory of the Ataducky chap and now we're getting one of the Murderer of 1974.

Suppose we could have one or even several to Rough Donktosh when he eventually kicks the bucket. Gosh, just think of the mountain of stone that would be needed if it were life-sized.

.... but as said, silly question really.

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baycrap

You'll find that our Rauf baby has already got a statu of himself on the Girne rounabout, on account that if he waits till he dies he may not get one.
Fancy that.

So tell us Freddie..... will you be happy or otherwise when the ficker does finally snuff it? .... Just vaguely curious.

He will have good company right next to Tasos Papadovillos. Outside heaven that is.

Understood mate.

You chaps better place a platoon of the TA to guard your Rough's final resting place. You know how good some CYs are at digging.

QUESTION: Are there any statues of the murderous EOKA B muppet called Grivas in Greek side?

As for CYs being good at digging - they must be better than clumsy GCs, who used earth diggers during 1974 to bury live, hundreds of TC women and children in mass graves! That was in addition to many of their own left hanging from the trees in Limassol (rather than being buried). Not to forget EOKA-B burying many Makarios supporters in mass graves around the same time!

Gosh not sure about statues mate but there are a few roads that bear the man's name.... as to the rest of your post ..... esp. the bit in big letters... all can say is bollo...wockies.

[YFred]

A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

The Monument was erected at the park in front of the Bülent Ecevit High School in the Göçmenköy-Nicosia.

Silly question ..... Are there any statues to tissy people in the Occupied North?

Seems to me (and suspect others) there must be factories spewing out grotesques in memory of the Ataducky chap and now we're getting one of the Murderer of 1974.

Suppose we could have one or even several to Rough Donktosh when he eventually kicks the bucket. Gosh, just think of the mountain of stone that would be needed if it were life-sized.

.... but as said, silly question really.

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baycrap

You'll find that our Rauf baby has already got a statu of himself on the Girne rounabout, on account that if he waits till he dies he may not get one.
Fancy that.

So tell us Freddie..... will you be happy or otherwise when the ficker does finally snuff it? .... Just vaguely curious.

He will have good company right next to Tasos Papadovillos. Outside heaven that is.

Understood mate.

You chaps better place a platoon of the TA to guard your Rough's final resting place. You know how good some CYs are at digging.

QUESTION: Are there any statues of the murderous EOKA B muppet called Grivas in Greek side?

As for CYs being good at digging - they must be better than clumsy GCs, who used earth diggers during 1974 to bury live, hundreds of TC women and children in mass graves! That was in addition to many of their own left hanging from the trees in Limassol (rather than being buried). Not to forget EOKA-B burying many Makarios supporters in mass graves around the same time!

Do you have any idea how many GCs were killed in Limasol by eoka?

[bill cobbett]

A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

The Monument was erected at the park in front of the Bülent Ecevit High School in the Göçmenköy-Nicosia.

Silly question ..... Are there any statues to tissy people in the Occupied North?

Seems to me (and suspect others) there must be factories spewing out grotesques in memory of the Ataducky chap and now we're getting one of the Murderer of 1974.

Suppose we could have one or even several to Rough Donktosh when he eventually kicks the bucket. Gosh, just think of the mountain of stone that would be needed if it were life-sized.

.... but as said, silly question really.

----------------------------
baycrap

You'll find that our Rauf baby has already got a statu of himself on the Girne rounabout, on account that if he waits till he dies he may not get one.
Fancy that.

So tell us Freddie..... will you be happy or otherwise when the ficker does finally snuff it? .... Just vaguely curious.

He will have good company right next to Tasos Papadovillos. Outside heaven that is.

Understood mate.

You chaps better place a platoon of the TA to guard your Rough's final resting place. You know how good some CYs are at digging.

QUESTION: Are there any statues of the murderous EOKA B muppet called Grivas in Greek side?

As for CYs being good at digging - they must be better than clumsy GCs, who used earth diggers during 1974 to bury live, hundreds of TC women and children in mass graves! That was in addition to many of their own left hanging from the trees in Limassol (rather than being buried). Not to forget EOKA-B burying many Makarios supporters in mass graves around the same time!

Do you have any idea how many GCs were killed in Limasol by eoka?

Think our Nikitas has provided an answer above mate.....

Can you amend EOKA to Eoka B please.

[bigOz]

"during 1974 to bury live, hundreds "

No need to get carried away now! The Sandalaris killings accounted for less than 70 people, not that the number makes it any less disgusting, but "hundreds", "buried alive" is a mite exaggerated.

Oh NO! Please do not make me go over this again (have done it in this forum 2-3 times already; the stage is the same but the actors keep revolving like a very long Broadway musical).

The massacres you refer to had happened more than just Sandallar (I belive in 3 places but can only recall Atlılar as the other one at this time). They exclude the TCs buried with your GC comrades in Limassol area - as confessed by one of your GC priests! I am sue I have kept the article somewhere in my computer folders. If you insist I shall be happy to quote it for you.

But all this is beside the point. The point I was trying to make is - why constantly blame the TCs for things that the GC had also been actively carrying out for decades? I can dig out the civilian casualty figures for 1963-64 and later too. Unfortunately, a lot of GC civilians also had to suffer during these times .

But the question you should ask is "who initiated these attacks and why?". I am absolutely sure that you will find it was the fanatic GCs lead by EOKA-B leadership on each occasion. So what is it exactly GCs blaming the TCs for? You go and poke/wound a sleeping young neighbor and get hurt as a result, because his brother decides to pick up his shotgun and shoot your balls off!

The day when GCs stop looking for excuses by misleading historic facts and recognise TCs as their equal, will be when a solution may be possible. Until then it is nothing more than mud slinging and verbal abuse between members of both comunities...

[bigOz]

A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

The Monument was erected at the park in front of the Bülent Ecevit High School in the Göçmenköy-Nicosia.

Silly question ..... Are there any statues to tissy people in the Occupied North?

Seems to me (and suspect others) there must be factories spewing out grotesques in memory of the Ataducky chap and now we're getting one of the Murderer of 1974.

Suppose we could have one or even several to Rough Donktosh when he eventually kicks the bucket. Gosh, just think of the mountain of stone that would be needed if it were life-sized.

.... but as said, silly question really.

----------------------------
baycrap

You'll find that our Rauf baby has already got a statu of himself on the Girne rounabout, on account that if he waits till he dies he may not get one.
Fancy that.

So tell us Freddie..... will you be happy or otherwise when the ficker does finally snuff it? .... Just vaguely curious.

He will have good company right next to Tasos Papadovillos. Outside heaven that is.

Understood mate.

You chaps better place a platoon of the TA to guard your Rough's final resting place. You know how good some CYs are at digging.

QUESTION: Are there any statues of the murderous EOKA B muppet called Grivas in Greek side?

As for CYs being good at digging - they must be better than clumsy GCs, who used earth diggers during 1974 to bury live, hundreds of TC women and children in mass graves! That was in addition to many of their own left hanging from the trees in Limassol (rather than being buried). Not to forget EOKA-B burying many Makarios supporters in mass graves around the same time!

Gosh not sure about statues mate but there are a few roads that bear the man's name.... as to the rest of your post ..... esp. the bit in big letters... all can say is bollo...wockies.

My apologies but if that is the best comment you can make about what actually happened in this country, then I can only think of two things:

1. You are totally ignorant of your own country's history and events of the past.

2. You have been taught wrong by your history teachers and brainwashed - like many others I witnessed in this forum over the years.

If you wish me to embarrass you please be foolish enough to challenge the truth of what I wrote and I may decide to give you a free lesson in history (albeit I was getting ready to go to bed)

By the way - there is no need to grow characters out of proportion in a quote when replying to a post! It is utterly childish, comical and unimpressive. Argue your point (if you have one) instead...

[bill cobbett]

A monument of former Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit has been inaugurated by President Derviş Eroğlu in North Nicosia.

The Monument was erected at the park in front of the Bülent Ecevit High School in the Göçmenköy-Nicosia.

Silly question ..... Are there any statues to tissy people in the Occupied North?

Seems to me (and suspect others) there must be factories spewing out grotesques in memory of the Ataducky chap and now we're getting one of the Murderer of 1974.

Suppose we could have one or even several to Rough Donktosh when he eventually kicks the bucket. Gosh, just think of the mountain of stone that would be needed if it were life-sized.

.... but as said, silly question really.

----------------------------
baycrap

You'll find that our Rauf baby has already got a statu of himself on the Girne rounabout, on account that if he waits till he dies he may not get one.
Fancy that.

So tell us Freddie..... will you be happy or otherwise when the ficker does finally snuff it? .... Just vaguely curious.

He will have good company right next to Tasos Papadovillos. Outside heaven that is.

Understood mate.

You chaps better place a platoon of the TA to guard your Rough's final resting place. You know how good some CYs are at digging.

QUESTION: Are there any statues of the murderous EOKA B muppet called Grivas in Greek side?

As for CYs being good at digging - they must be better than clumsy GCs, who used earth diggers during 1974 to That was in addition to many of their own left hanging from the trees in Limassol (rather than being buried). Not to forget EOKA-B burying many Makarios supporters in mass graves around the same time!

Gosh not sure about statues mate but there are a few roads that bear the man's name.... as to the rest of your post ..... esp. the bit in big letters... all can say is bollo...wockies.

My apologies but if that is the best comment you can make about what actually happened in this country, then I can only think of two things:

1. You are totally ignorant of your own country's history and events of the past.

2. You have been taught wrong by your history teachers and brainwashed - like many others I witnessed in this forum over the years.

If you wish me to embarrass you please be foolish enough to challenge the truth of what I wrote and I may decide to give you a free lesson in history (albeit I was getting ready to go to bed)

By the way - there is no need to grow characters out of proportion in a quote when replying to a post! It is utterly childish, comical and unimpressive. Argue your point (if you have one) instead...

(Erm .... CY is not my country, and am not in the habit of being "brainwashed" by any scabby nationalism.)

Yes am challenging you to show us the truth in your claim .... A claim you made without prompting. You made it, I merely highlight it. I make it bold and big and loud for all to see. Your words shininf out and emphasised for all to see.

Are you ashamed of your words? They are your words aren't they? You posted them. You chose to use them, to make the most outrageous claim we've had on CF for days.

Did you think such a ludicrous claim would go unnoticed? That it wouldn't be picked on? Perhaps you realise it was a mistake on your part to post what you did and we'll leave it there, but rather than leave it there and move on, you thought to attack me to detract from your ill-founded claim.

Well if you still maintain it is true, that it is part of "history" then show us the records of this "history", give us all the benefit of this "history" lesson.... prove to us that ......

bury live, hundreds of TC women and children in mass graves!

Prove to us that I am talking a load of pollocks when I choose not to believe your claims.

Show us the pictures of the "earth-diggers" pushing hundreds of live people in to mass graves.

[bill cobbett]

sod it .... dp

[halil]

Yes Grivas has got status in so called free areas !

I have some where picture of it .

[miltiades]

"during 1974 to bury live, hundreds "

No need to get carried away now! The Sandalaris killings accounted for less than 70 people, not that the number makes it any less disgusting, but "hundreds", "buried alive" is a mite exaggerated.

Oh NO! Please do not make me go over this again (have done it in this forum 2-3 times already; the stage is the same but the actors keep revolving like a very long Broadway musical).

The massacres you refer to had happened more than just Sandallar (I belive in 3 places but can only recall Atlılar as the other one at this time). They exclude the TCs buried with your GC comrades in Limassol area - as confessed by one of your GC priests! I am sue I have kept the article somewhere in my computer folders. If you insist I shall be happy to quote it for you.

But all this is beside the point. The point I was trying to make is - why constantly blame the TCs for things that the GC had also been actively carrying out for decades? I can dig out the civilian casualty figures for 1963-64 and later too. Unfortunately, a lot of GC civilians also had to suffer during these times .

But the question you should ask is "who initiated these attacks and why?". I am absolutely sure that you will find it was the fanatic GCs lead by EOKA-B leadership on each occasion. So what is it exactly GCs blaming the TCs for? You go and poke/wound a sleeping young neighbor and get hurt as a result, because his brother decides to pick up his shotgun and shoot your balls off!

The day when GCs stop looking for excuses by misleading historic facts and recognise TCs as their equal, will be when a solution may be possible. Until then it is nothing more than mud slinging and verbal abuse between members of both comunities...

What exactly are you putting forward ? Are you suggesting that the G/C extremists who committed this vile acts are more blood thirsty than the T/C extremists who committed equal vile acts. We have covered this issue hundreds of times. The guilty were the extremists , the misguided nationalists who had Greece or Turkey as their motherland. These were the bastards who caused these hideous crimes not your average decent morally orientated T/C or G/C .