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[denizaksulu]

Well, intermoon hasn't been able to present his proof that god exists - it must have been harder than he thought!

Youd think he would have it at hand

[cyprusgrump]

Well, intermoon hasn't been able to present his proof that god exists - it must have been harder than he thought!

Youd think he would have it at hand

I agree… perhaps I’m being naïve but I did expect that somebody who spends his time spreading the word and trying to convert others would have the proof right there on their desktop…

[georgios100]

Well, intermoon hasn't been able to present his proof that god exists - it must have been harder than he thought!

Youd think he would have it at hand

I agree… perhaps I’m being naive but I did expect that somebody who spends his time spreading the word and trying to convert others would have the proof right there on their desktop…

You guys, are you still waiting for proof? What proof? Nobody has any proof on this planet including "intermoon". So, go about your business, wasted enough time with this guy...

BTW, does anyone have the zip code for paradise? I need to send a letter to a friend who passed away 2 weeks ago (he owns me money...) perhaps intermoon knows the zip code... hey intermoon, can you post the zip code please?

Georgios100

[Me Ed]

DNA is created by mother nature, not God. The fact that DNA evolves in time is the only proof that nature is at work all the time, not God.

God is a refuge for the weak. Additionally, whatever science has yet to explain, God created... (for now).

I am not impressed with DNA numbers, has nothing to do with God. I am still waiting for concrete proof of God's existence... and please, no more Youtube links! This is ridiculous!

And something else.

If both GCs & TCs had the same religion, the Cyprob would have never existed.

Think about that. This is why religion & politics don't mix.

Georgios100

Well you can blame the Greek Orthodox Church for this because they preseved the GC language and culture during ottoman rule.

Had they not been so effective then yes, we would all be Turks today and there would be no Cyprob.

[realitybites]

I hope you read it carefully (I will relate some example based on true facts).
First of all, if you are looking for truth then surely you will find it .

Following discription will cover two topic, one being "the existance of God" and second is "Belief in God and his power" rational mind always ponders and accepts the truth.

At the era of Jesus (Peace be upon him) things turned very bad when Mother Mary (Maryam Peach be upon her) told poeple that she would conceive.

There were 3 Groups of People.

First Group Maryam (Peace be upon her) was told she would conceive and she questioned the manner of how that would be possible she being virgin and no man has ever touched her. After Angel Gabriel explained that this is God's will. she immediately accepted the supreme power of Allah (God)

Maryam (Peach be upon her) was true believer that is why God raised her status to all women of earth who existed or will exist. She was from the first type of People which had no doubt about "Existence of God" as we are discussing today and she had no doubt about "Gods extreme Power"


Second Group They question everything that is told to them. Anything that is presented to them, they use their thinking and rationale to accept or reject it.

Example of this category is the story of Joseph (The Carpenter), who was Maryam (Peace be upon her) cousin and caretaker of Temple. He asked Maryam (Peace be upon her) concerning her unique pregnancy. He had seen her during her pregnancy and was unable to overlook her condition. He approached her hesitantly, knowing that she is a pious believer. He wished to receive an explanation to satisfy the questions in his mind about her pregnancy. Maryam (Peace be upon her) permitted him to ask, emphasizing that he be understanding and kind.

He asked her if trees, grass, and plants grow without water.
She replied yes, explaining that the One who was able to create it the first time from nothing, can make it grow with and without water.

She then asked him who made water before it was water. He replied that Allah (God ) did.

He asked her can a baby be conceived without a husband.

She answered him by saying the One who created Adam without a father or a mother can create a baby without a father.

Then he responded by saying Allah has the power over all things, Allah is great, and he believed.

Third Group Finally, the third group is one who has no belief and no proper thinking, at times even rejecting concrete or tangible proof. An example of such a people would be the Jews, who repeatedly denied the truth because of their lack of faith (belief) and lack of thinking. They had reached a conclusion before hearing an explanation from Maryam (Peace be upon her) , due to their stubbornness and arrogance. We can deduce that the best way to deal with such people is through silence.

Even after they were shown another miracle, which was Jesus (Peace be upon him) speaking as an infant, they still denied God's Power.

[denizaksulu]

If the above is proof, then God help us all.

[denizaksulu]

As judge Judy (my fav old lady)says it is hearsay, cannot be used as evidence.

[realitybites]

If the above is proof, then God help us all.

He asked her if trees, grass, and plants grow without water.
She replied yes, explaining that the One who was able to create it the first time from nothing, can make it grow with and without water.

She then asked him who made water before it was water. He replied that Allah (God ) did.

He asked her can a baby be conceived without a husband.

She answered him by saying the One who created Adam without a father or a mother can create a baby without a father.

really, is it not proof?

then lets do it this way..


Why don't you proof, God doesn't exist?

who has control over life and death?
who has control over volcano, earthquakes, what is beneath earth and what is in sky?
etc.....

[YFred]

If the above is proof, then God help us all.

He asked her if trees, grass, and plants grow without water.
She replied yes, explaining that the One who was able to create it the first time from nothing, can make it grow with and without water.

She then asked him who made water before it was water. He replied that Allah (God ) did.

He asked her can a baby be conceived without a husband.

She answered him by saying the One who created Adam without a father or a mother can create a baby without a father.

really, is it not proof?

then lets do it this way..


Why don't you proof, God doesn't exist?

who has control over life and death?
who has control over volcano, earthquakes, what is beneath earth and what is in sky?
etc.....

You can prove something exists. How do you propose to prove something does not exist?
Where did you learn your education? Did your teachers never learn you nafink?
No wonder we have a problem.

[denizaksulu]

If the above is proof, then God help us all.

He asked her if trees, grass, and plants grow without water.
She replied yes, explaining that the One who was able to create it the first time from nothing, can make it grow with and without water.

She then asked him who made water before it was water. He replied that Allah (God ) did.

He asked her can a baby be conceived without a husband.

She answered him by saying the One who created Adam without a father or a mother can create a baby without a father.

really, is it not proof?

then lets do it this way..


Why don't you proof, God doesn't exist?

who has control over life and death?
who has control over volcano, earthquakes, what is beneath earth and what is in sky?
etc.....

The onus is on you my friend. It was you who came to prove that God exists. I am yet to be convinced. I have an open mind, but I believe in the 'primordial soup'.