vaughanwilliams wrote:Piratis wrote:1) The "IPC" thing was the only negative development, but it is counterbalanced by the Orams case which gives the ability to Cyprus courts to convict any of you in a matter of a few weeks. When the negotiations will fail soon due to your intransigence expect our courts working overtime to deal with cases in occupied Cyprus.
2) For the "direct trade" thing you should celebrate when it happens, which of course will be never.
3) Eruglue chosen as the puppet of Turkey is the worst thing that could happen to you. The negotiations were going nowhere because Turkey was uncompromising, and now with Eroglue it will be much easier for the TCs and Turkey to take the blame for their intransigence.
4) RoC has nothing against the average TC and for years is doing everything possible to help them. Don't confuse our war against Turkey and their puppet regime in Cyprus with the will of RoC to serve all its citizens as much as possible.
Your answer at item 4) doesn't add up against:
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/house ... y/20100423Please re-read the article and tell me again how you've done "everything possible" to help TCs in the past. Or do you mean everything
except this?
Relatively only few TCs will qualify for this, despite many TCs having left property in the south. The problem is, when many TCs were given GC properties in the north after 1974 and were told that Cyprus problem was solved, those TCs did nothing regarding their properties in the south, such as making sure that all their property documents were in order to pass it to their children either before the owners died or soon after. Such properties that would have gone to the owners children through a will or a court probate, which I'm sure it has not been carried out in many cases, therefore, there are no clear records as to who owns the property, other than the original owner, who may be dead now.
More than likely, even some of the children of the original owner are dead, which leaves their children to inherit their grandparents land and property. The only problem is, the original owners were the husband and wife (grandparents), then it was to be their children, and now to many, it is to be the grandchildren. It has gone from 2 persons to as many as 20 right now since 1963, which means, they will all have to agree on what to do with their parents and grandparents land. To complicate matters even more, many of the children of the original TC owners "exchanged" their parents properties in the south to GCs properties in the north, and have given their deeds to the "trnc". If they want to get their properties in the south after going through probate in the RoC courts, they will no doubt will need to give back the GCs properties back to the "trnc" in the north. The problem rises again, since the "trnc" does not want the TCs to gain and sell their properties in the south. The other problem for some of the TCs will also, if they had dealt in stolen GC properties, which is a crime in the RoC.
So, overall, the only TCs who are going to benefit from the new law, are
1. The ones who do not have any GC properties at all, either in "exchange" or direct purchase
2. The original owner is still alive
3. Original owner had passed on his property to his children in a RoC court documented legal way
4. All the remaining alive heirs to the original owner are all in an agreement in what to do with the property
5. Those who did not break the RoC's GCs property laws in the north
6. Need to pay all past taxes due on the properties
If there is any breakage in the chain of full agreement by all the surviving heirs, then it will be very difficult to solve the property issues for the TCs. It may be one of the reasons as to why they would rather keep the GCs property they are now occupying in the north and let their parents/grandparents properties be taken over by the GCs. Even that idea won't be too easy to fulfill for the TCs. In the meantime, I believe many GCs had done exactly what was needed to pass their properties to their children in a legal way through the RoC legal system. The "trnc" cannot be used by the TCs to have had done similarly of the properties in the south through the legal system in the north. There lies the whole problem for the TCs with property in the south.
(and all the other regulares). At the mo I feel left out. 
