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[Tim Drayton]

In an interview published in the Cyprus Mail in 2008, newly appointed Paphos (the place with the largest concentration of permanent British residents) police chief Costas Soteriou said, inter alia:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/New+polic ... 0185957798

"We don't have any trouble with the British residents; they are financially secure or elderly.”

Did he include the 5,000 Brits in possession of illegal property?

This was a quote from the police chief of Paphos. He was referring to the British residents of Paphos. No part of the district of Paphos falls within "occupied Cyprus". Therefore none of the British residents he is referring to - i.e. the British residents of Paphos could possibly be in possession of illegal property.

Mate, after you have finished your adult literacy course so that you can read a simple newspaper cutting in English - and I would recommend a simple arithmetic course, too, if you can't work out that 1956 predates 1960 - try taking a course in simple geography and map reading. To judge by your screen name, you are alleging to have some kind of connection with Paphos. Are you totally unaware that no part of Paphos district falls within the ocupied areas?

[Tim Drayton]

Just done a quick search on Australians who get arrested while holidaying abroad. Shock ... horror ... it seems some of these sqeaky clean people do naughty things while on holiday (note for the mentally challenged: this sentence involves irony). Just look at the figures:

http://www.news.com.au/more-aussie-tour ... 5713844463

THE number of Australians arrested overseas is expected to surpass 1000 this year, say experts.

And merely the headline of the following article says it all:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/au ... 5692836512

Aussies abroad: it's an ugly picture

The simple truth is that there exist criminal and socially deviant elements in all societies, and any country that experiences mass foreign tourism is going to find that some of its citizens fall foul of the law in the countries to which they travel. So relax. I am not going to start some half-brained thread full of lurid examples of Aussie excess and misbehaviour in foreign lands.

Can you tell us how many Aussies are in possession of GC owned property? Not many if any, is that right?

Now what does this say about the quality of Brits in Cyprus?

I have no idea how many Aussies are in possession of GC owned property? For the sake of argument, let us assume that there are none. What relevance does this presumed fact have on the quality of Brits in Cyprus? You have lost me.

To extrapolate, let us assume for the sake of argument that large numbers of Aussies acquire GC owned property in Cyprus. Under this hypothetical situation, would the quality of Brits in be Cyprus enhanced? If not, we can safely assume that there is no causal relationship between the number of Aussies who are in possession of GC owned property and the quality of Brits in Cyprus.

Mate, go and have a look through your drawers and cupboards and see if you have left something called your brain anywhere. Go and get it and we may just begin to be able to have an intelligent discussion.

[vaughanwilliams]

In an interview published in the Cyprus Mail in 2008, newly appointed Paphos (the place with the largest concentration of permanent British residents) police chief Costas Soteriou said, inter alia:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/New+polic ... 0185957798

"We don't have any trouble with the British residents; they are financially secure or elderly.”

Did he include the 5,000 Brits in possession of illegal property?

This was a quote from the police chief of Paphos. He was referring to the British residents of Paphos. No part of the district of Paphos falls within "occupied Cyprus". Therefore none of the British residents he is referring to - i.e. the British residents of Paphos could possibly be in possession of illegal property.

Mate, after you have finished your adult literacy course so that you can read a simple newspaper cutting in English - and I would recommend a simple arithmetic course, too, if you can't work out that 1956 predates 1960 - try taking a course in simple geography and map reading. To judge by your screen name, you are alleging to have some kind of connection with Paphos. Are you totally unaware that no part of Paphos district falls within the ocupied areas?

I happen to know two English couples who have properties both in Paphos and in the TRNC, splitting their time between the two.
Judging by the number of Brits we see driving RoC plated cars up here, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a whole lot more like them.

[Tim Drayton]

In an interview published in the Cyprus Mail in 2008, newly appointed Paphos (the place with the largest concentration of permanent British residents) police chief Costas Soteriou said, inter alia:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/New+polic ... 0185957798

"We don't have any trouble with the British residents; they are financially secure or elderly.”

Did he include the 5,000 Brits in possession of illegal property?

This was a quote from the police chief of Paphos. He was referring to the British residents of Paphos. No part of the district of Paphos falls within "occupied Cyprus". Therefore none of the British residents he is referring to - i.e. the British residents of Paphos could possibly be in possession of illegal property.

Mate, after you have finished your adult literacy course so that you can read a simple newspaper cutting in English - and I would recommend a simple arithmetic course, too, if you can't work out that 1956 predates 1960 - try taking a course in simple geography and map reading. To judge by your screen name, you are alleging to have some kind of connection with Paphos. Are you totally unaware that no part of Paphos district falls within the ocupied areas?

I happen to know two English couples who have properties both in Paphos and in the TRNC, splitting their time between the two.
Judging by the number of Brits we see driving RoC plated cars up here, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a whole lot more like them.

Interesting point. Then I would have to classify them as crooks, unless they have bought Turkish Cypriot title property.

[Paphitis]

In an interview published in the Cyprus Mail in 2008, newly appointed Paphos (the place with the largest concentration of permanent British residents) police chief Costas Soteriou said, inter alia:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/New+polic ... 0185957798

"We don't have any trouble with the British residents; they are financially secure or elderly.”

Did he include the 5,000 Brits in possession of illegal property?

Anybody who follows my frequent posts on this forum will be aware that:

1- I strongly oppose the sale to foreigners of usurped property in the part of Cyprus that is under Turkey's control,

I know this.

2- I strongly oppose the way that the north of Cyprus serves as a haven for wanted criminals,

I know you do.

3- Oppose the continued presence of British military bases along with British sovereign territory on the island, and so do not wish to have large numbers of British service personnel here and

Good! We need to think about this very carefully though. It's all in the timing as you know.

4- Think that it is inadvisable, to say the least, to promote Agia Napa as a 'yob resort'.

Look, there is a need for places like Agia Napa no doubt. I wouldn't call it a yob resort, but heavy alcohol and drug consumption resulting in yobish behavior is not doing the place many favours.

I do not see what connection there is between crimes committed under any of the above categories and the legal permanent British residents of the Republic of Cyprus who either, like my parents, retired here prior to 2004 under an officially sanctioned scheme permitting foreign retired people to settle on the island or who, like myself, came here with the aim of working or setting up businesses after Cyprus joined the EU. To suggest that any of the odium associated with purchasers of illegal property or rowdy tourists and squaddies should rub off on respectable permanent residents is to engage in the most vile, racist act of stereotyping possible.

If you think that large numbers of British permanent residents are involved in crime, start a thread to prove it then. Show us how much you know about Cyprus. As a matter of interest, how many days of your life have you spent on the island?

I was never talking about the legal British residents of the RoC, such as the retirees, legitimate workers or business people. But what I did do is highlight some criminal behaviour of British tourists, squaddies (FFS), and some yobish behavior in Agia Napa and elsewhere as well as the rampant exploitation of GC owned property in the occupied areas. I also highlighted the fact that some Brits have not done a very good job at integrating with Cypriots, adopting the local culture and respecting the Cypriot way. Major developments have also permanently altered the unique character of many traditional Cypriot villages, and many Brits also seem to think it is OK to look for any opportunity to bash Cyprus, its institutions and Cypriots as a whole. The racism seems to be prevalent elsewhere Tim, because many Brits seem to think that they and the UK are far superior to Cyprus and Cypriots and that we need their guidance and advice to improve Cyprus and change our ways.

Sorry Tim, but this is indeed a bad reflection on all Brits, and the UK. But that does not mean that all Brits in Cyprus should be tainted with the same brush and I haven't done this. Furthermore, you might be interested to know that a number of British MPs are even exploiting GC owned property in occupied Cyprus. Now what does this say about the UK? You may think that I don't have the right to say this, but since we have a number of Brits on this forum who look for any opportunity to bash on Cyprus, then I have the right to bash on Brits. And there is plenty to talk about Tim, until they realize one thing. Those wanting to bash on Cyprus should first ensure that their house is in order, and that the UK is not any better than Cyprus, and that they are not better than Cypriots, and hopefully, one day, they can just relax and enjoy Cyprus and its wonderful culture and allow Cypriots the time and space to deal with more pressing issues which at the very least are a bi product of British interference on the island of Cyprus in the 50s and 60s.

[Paphitis]

Just done a quick search on Australians who get arrested while holidaying abroad. Shock ... horror ... it seems some of these sqeaky clean people do naughty things while on holiday (note for the mentally challenged: this sentence involves irony). Just look at the figures:

http://www.news.com.au/more-aussie-tour ... 5713844463

THE number of Australians arrested overseas is expected to surpass 1000 this year, say experts.

And merely the headline of the following article says it all:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/au ... 5692836512

Aussies abroad: it's an ugly picture

The simple truth is that there exist criminal and socially deviant elements in all societies, and any country that experiences mass foreign tourism is going to find that some of its citizens fall foul of the law in the countries to which they travel. So relax. I am not going to start some half-brained thread full of lurid examples of Aussie excess and misbehaviour in foreign lands.

Can you tell us how many Aussies are in possession of GC owned property? Not many if any, is that right?

Now what does this say about the quality of Brits in Cyprus?

I have no idea how many Aussies are in possession of GC owned property? For the sake of argument, let us assume that there are none. What relevance does this presumed fact have on the quality of Brits in Cyprus? You have lost me.

To extrapolate, let us assume for the sake of argument that large numbers of Aussies acquire GC owned property in Cyprus. Under this hypothetical situation, would the quality of Brits in be Cyprus enhanced? If not, we can safely assume that there is no causal relationship between the number of Aussies who are in possession of GC owned property and the quality of Brits in Cyprus.

Mate, go and have a look through your drawers and cupboards and see if you have left something called your brain anywhere. Go and get it and we may just begin to be able to have an intelligent discussion.

You were the one that posted links about 1,000 Aussie arrests in foreign countries as if to insinuate something more sinister however ironic for the "mentally challenged".

That's fine, but how many Brits in Cyprus are in possession of GC property? How many British MPs own GC property in occupied Cyprus?

No matter how you slice it, this is a very bad reflection on the UK and its people, including the old retirees in Cyprus.

And for the sake of the argument, if there were any Aussies (and maybe there are) that are in possession of GC owned property in occupied Cyprus, then I as an Aussie would feel very embarrassed and ashamed. And just like you, I would hope and wish that RoC law finally calls these Aussies to account for their criminal behaviour in a RoC court of law.

Likewise, if there are any Aussie MPs that also possess GC owned property in occupied Cyprus, I would be absolutely lost for words and feel twice as ashamed!

[Tim Drayton]

Just done a quick search on Australians who get arrested while holidaying abroad. Shock ... horror ... it seems some of these sqeaky clean people do naughty things while on holiday (note for the mentally challenged: this sentence involves irony). Just look at the figures:

http://www.news.com.au/more-aussie-tour ... 5713844463

THE number of Australians arrested overseas is expected to surpass 1000 this year, say experts.

And merely the headline of the following article says it all:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/au ... 5692836512

Aussies abroad: it's an ugly picture

The simple truth is that there exist criminal and socially deviant elements in all societies, and any country that experiences mass foreign tourism is going to find that some of its citizens fall foul of the law in the countries to which they travel. So relax. I am not going to start some half-brained thread full of lurid examples of Aussie excess and misbehaviour in foreign lands.

Can you tell us how many Aussies are in possession of GC owned property? Not many if any, is that right?

Now what does this say about the quality of Brits in Cyprus?

I have no idea how many Aussies are in possession of GC owned property? For the sake of argument, let us assume that there are none. What relevance does this presumed fact have on the quality of Brits in Cyprus? You have lost me.

To extrapolate, let us assume for the sake of argument that large numbers of Aussies acquire GC owned property in Cyprus. Under this hypothetical situation, would the quality of Brits in be Cyprus enhanced? If not, we can safely assume that there is no causal relationship between the number of Aussies who are in possession of GC owned property and the quality of Brits in Cyprus.

Mate, go and have a look through your drawers and cupboards and see if you have left something called your brain anywhere. Go and get it and we may just begin to be able to have an intelligent discussion.

You were the one that posted links about 1,000 Aussie arrests in foreign countries as if to insinuate something more sinister however ironic for the "mentally challenged".

That's fine, but how many Brits in Cyprus are in possession of GC property? How many British MPs own GC property in occupied Cyprus?

No matter how you slice it, this is a very bad reflection on the UK and its people, including the old retirees in Cyprus.

The point about the 1,000+ Aussie arrests was to show that the same thing happens with all nationalities and that it is not a specifically British phenomenon. You cannot understand anything. Just forget it.

[denizaksulu]

In an interview published in the Cyprus Mail in 2008, newly appointed Paphos (the place with the largest concentration of permanent British residents) police chief Costas Soteriou said, inter alia:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/New+polic ... 0185957798

"We don't have any trouble with the British residents; they are financially secure or elderly.”

Did he include the 5,000 Brits in possession of illegal property?

This was a quote from the police chief of Paphos. He was referring to the British residents of Paphos. No part of the district of Paphos falls within "occupied Cyprus". Therefore none of the British residents he is referring to - i.e. the British residents of Paphos could possibly be in possession of illegal property.

Mate, after you have finished your adult literacy course so that you can read a simple newspaper cutting in English - and I would recommend a simple arithmetic course, too, if you can't work out that 1956 predates 1960 - try taking a course in simple geography and map reading. To judge by your screen name, you are alleging to have some kind of connection with Paphos. Are you totally unaware that no part of Paphos district falls within the ocupied areas?

I happen to know two English couples who have properties both in Paphos and in the TRNC, splitting their time between the two.
Judging by the number of Brits we see driving RoC plated cars up here, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a whole lot more like them.

Interesting point. Then I would have to classify them as crooks, unless they have bought Turkish Cypriot title property.

If true, they sure are taking risks everytime they cross-over. Can this be substantiated? Perhaps they just rent - or is that the same thing?

[Paphitis]

Just done a quick search on Australians who get arrested while holidaying abroad. Shock ... horror ... it seems some of these sqeaky clean people do naughty things while on holiday (note for the mentally challenged: this sentence involves irony). Just look at the figures:

http://www.news.com.au/more-aussie-tour ... 5713844463

THE number of Australians arrested overseas is expected to surpass 1000 this year, say experts.

And merely the headline of the following article says it all:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/au ... 5692836512

Aussies abroad: it's an ugly picture

The simple truth is that there exist criminal and socially deviant elements in all societies, and any country that experiences mass foreign tourism is going to find that some of its citizens fall foul of the law in the countries to which they travel. So relax. I am not going to start some half-brained thread full of lurid examples of Aussie excess and misbehaviour in foreign lands.

Can you tell us how many Aussies are in possession of GC owned property? Not many if any, is that right?

Now what does this say about the quality of Brits in Cyprus?

I have no idea how many Aussies are in possession of GC owned property? For the sake of argument, let us assume that there are none. What relevance does this presumed fact have on the quality of Brits in Cyprus? You have lost me.

To extrapolate, let us assume for the sake of argument that large numbers of Aussies acquire GC owned property in Cyprus. Under this hypothetical situation, would the quality of Brits in be Cyprus enhanced? If not, we can safely assume that there is no causal relationship between the number of Aussies who are in possession of GC owned property and the quality of Brits in Cyprus.

Mate, go and have a look through your drawers and cupboards and see if you have left something called your brain anywhere. Go and get it and we may just begin to be able to have an intelligent discussion.

You were the one that posted links about 1,000 Aussie arrests in foreign countries as if to insinuate something more sinister however ironic for the "mentally challenged".

That's fine, but how many Brits in Cyprus are in possession of GC property? How many British MPs own GC property in occupied Cyprus?

No matter how you slice it, this is a very bad reflection on the UK and its people, including the old retirees in Cyprus.

The point about the 1,000+ Aussie arrests was to show that the same thing happens with all nationalities and that it is not a specifically British phenomenon. You cannot understand anything. Just forget it.

The "purchase" of GC owned property in occupied Cyprus seems to be a predominately British phenomenon. It is estimated that some 5,000 Brits are guilty of this crime.

[Tim Drayton]

In an interview published in the Cyprus Mail in 2008, newly appointed Paphos (the place with the largest concentration of permanent British residents) police chief Costas Soteriou said, inter alia:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/New+polic ... 0185957798

"We don't have any trouble with the British residents; they are financially secure or elderly.”

Did he include the 5,000 Brits in possession of illegal property?

This was a quote from the police chief of Paphos. He was referring to the British residents of Paphos. No part of the district of Paphos falls within "occupied Cyprus". Therefore none of the British residents he is referring to - i.e. the British residents of Paphos could possibly be in possession of illegal property.

Mate, after you have finished your adult literacy course so that you can read a simple newspaper cutting in English - and I would recommend a simple arithmetic course, too, if you can't work out that 1956 predates 1960 - try taking a course in simple geography and map reading. To judge by your screen name, you are alleging to have some kind of connection with Paphos. Are you totally unaware that no part of Paphos district falls within the ocupied areas?

I happen to know two English couples who have properties both in Paphos and in the TRNC, splitting their time between the two.
Judging by the number of Brits we see driving RoC plated cars up here, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a whole lot more like them.

Interesting point. Then I would have to classify them as crooks, unless they have bought Turkish Cypriot title property.

If true, they sure are taking risks everytime they cross-over. Can this be substantiated? Perhaps they just rent - or is that the same thing?

I am a regular visitor to the north, too. That does not mean that I own property there. I do not know how widespread this phenomenon that VW refers to really is.