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[repulsewarrior]

The "Brits" are not a race.

the Cypriots are not Hellenic.
The "Brits"is actually a pop music award ceremony.
Actually on this i would Agree with you - its a politically inspired thing, i think Tony (B)liar was a great believer in the movement.
But Ask the people in the UK if they are British or English and how they feel about being Labelled Brits.
Football Team
Cricket Team
Rugby Team
etc etc etc Et Al They are ENGLISH.

I agree not all Cypriots are "Hellenic". But Greek Cypriots are Hellenic. Similarly, not all Brits are English. But the English are Brits.

Both "Brit" and "Cypriot" are political constructs which neutralize ethnic and historical origins.

...and thus our responsibility to Human kind, to define Bicommunality.

if Britian was bicommunal, there would be National Assemblies, so that the English, Welsh, etc. can sustain these identities; as Persons. while as Individuals they would never doubt their solidarity as equals united for their State, Britain.

[Paphitis]

Cyprus was never the same when British Mass Migration began to occur in the eighties. Coincidentally, crime and petty theft seemed to increase from this period.

A further crime spree occurred when the British Sterling lost its value, resulting in many cash strapped Brits finding their costs for living in Cyprus escalate. Surely this can't be a coincidence!

you mention the word coincidence? but all your statments are suppositon.. you always ask for the relevant deatails of facts from other peoples statements - from thousands of miles away where are yours?
Funnily enough the incidcence of British people having their property broken into is rising steeply
The people here are concerned about the rising crime and the influx from outside of Cyprus - lots of cheap labour here have lost their jobs now and the increase people speak of is over the last few years ,around four at a guess...
Seem to be a lot of people walking around Cyprus with extavagant amounts of cash and jewellrey about their person these days and being robbed.
Nicosia prison is full - but not many brits there....

Someone who has a historical connection to the island going back thousands of years can have a very strong connection to Cyprus and is very much in touch. Others, choose not to, for various reasons which I find tragic.

The Brits in Cyprus need to get involved in Cypriot society and blend in with the locals. They need to appreciate the Cypriot way. Bitching and whining won't do you any good, because Cypriots will just leave you on the outer, and this is perfectly natural.

Furthermore, the quality of Brits does indeed leave many question marks. Cyprus has attracted many Brit low lifes, which would no doubt be an embarrassment to the UK as a whole. Over 5,000 have bought stolen refugee property in the unrecognized "trnc" on the cheap. There seems to be a lack of respect towards the long suffering Cypriot people and in particular to the ethnically cleansed GC refugees. It is only natural that GCs will be angry and frustrated at this, and due to this, many good Brits will suffer because GCs as a whole will be weary and suspicious.

Then you have the low quality property developments catering to the Brit market which have altered the unique traditional character of many Cypriot villages. The Brits have been mostly uninterested in adopting Cyprus as their new country and become Cypriot citizens at the earliest opportunity. Then we have Brits on this forum who are graciously hosted in the RoC and look for every opportunity to question and mock our Cypriot inheritance. It really has nothing to do with them. It is like a Cypriot going to Scotland and telling the Scots that they are English and not Scottish. What audacity!

Now as to many Brits having their homes broken into, it is quite safe to presume that it is most likely that the perpetrators are not GC. However, it would not surprise me at all if at least some of the perpetrators are British.

Also, Nicosia prison has very few GC prisoners. Most are itinerants, illegal immigrants, foreign workers, and low and behold, a few Brits as well!

[Tim Drayton]

According to a US Department of State report concerning Cyprus in 2008:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... en&ct=clnk


of the 721 inmates at Nicosia Central Prison,

Approximately 62 percent of the detainees were foreigners

The term is intrinsically subjective, but I think that one could scarcely consider 38% to be 'very few'.

[Milo]

Cyprus was never the same when British Mass Migration began to occur in the eighties. Coincidentally, crime and petty theft seemed to increase from this period.

A further crime spree occurred when the British Sterling lost its value, resulting in many cash strapped Brits finding their costs for living in Cyprus escalate. Surely this can't be a coincidence!

you mention the word coincidence? but all your statments are suppositon.. you always ask for the relevant deatails of facts from other peoples statements - from thousands of miles away where are yours?
Funnily enough the incidcence of British people having their property broken into is rising steeply
The people here are concerned about the rising crime and the influx from outside of Cyprus - lots of cheap labour here have lost their jobs now and the increase people speak of is over the last few years ,around four at a guess...
Seem to be a lot of people walking around Cyprus with extavagant amounts of cash and jewellrey about their person these days and being robbed.
Nicosia prison is full - but not many brits there....

Someone who has a historical connection to the island going back thousands of years can have a very strong connection to Cyprus and is very much in touch. Others, choose not to, for various reasons which I find tragic.

The Brits in Cyprus need to get involved in Cypriot society and blend in with the locals. They need to appreciate the Cypriot way. Bitching and whining won't do you any good, because Cypriots will just leave you on the outer, and this is perfectly natural.

Furthermore, the quality of Brits does indeed leave many question marks. Cyprus has attracted many Brit low lifes, which would no doubt be an embarrassment to the UK as a whole. Over 5,000 have bought stolen refugee property in the unrecognized "trnc" on the cheap. There seems to be a lack of respect towards the long suffering Cypriot people and in particular to the ethnically cleansed GC refugees. It is only natural that GCs will be angry and frustrated at this, and due to this, many good Brits will suffer because GCs as a whole will be weary and suspicious.

Then you have the low quality property developments catering to the Brit market which have altered the unique traditional character of many Cypriot villages. The Brits have been mostly uninterested in adopting Cyprus as their new country and become Cypriot citizens at the earliest opportunity. Then we have Brits on this forum who are graciously hosted in the RoC and look for every opportunity to question and mock our Cypriot inheritance. It really has nothing to do with them. It is like a Cypriot going to Scotland and telling the Scots that they are English and not Scottish. What audacity!

Now as to many Brits having their homes broken into, it is quite safe to presume that it is most likely that the perpetrators are not GC. However, it would not surprise me at all if at least some of the perpetrators are British.

Also, Nicosia prison has very few GC prisoners. Most are itinerants, illegal immigrants, foreign workers, and low and behold, a few Brits as well!

God you talk some rubbish, and again another who spouts from afar and has,nt the slightest idea what goes on here on a daily basis.

Btw the foreigners held in Nicosia tend to be non criminal cases, but you knew that did,nt you?

ECRI notes that foreigners account for almost 30% of the total prison
population of Cyprus. In most cases, they are detained for offences linked to
their right to stay in the country and very rarely for violent crimes. ECRI
encourages the Cypriot authorities to carry out research on the causes of the
disproportionate representation of foreigners in Cypriot prisons.

[Paphitis]

Cyprus was never the same when British Mass Migration began to occur in the eighties. Coincidentally, crime and petty theft seemed to increase from this period.

A further crime spree occurred when the British Sterling lost its value, resulting in many cash strapped Brits finding their costs for living in Cyprus escalate. Surely this can't be a coincidence!

you mention the word coincidence? but all your statments are suppositon.. you always ask for the relevant deatails of facts from other peoples statements - from thousands of miles away where are yours?
Funnily enough the incidcence of British people having their property broken into is rising steeply
The people here are concerned about the rising crime and the influx from outside of Cyprus - lots of cheap labour here have lost their jobs now and the increase people speak of is over the last few years ,around four at a guess...
Seem to be a lot of people walking around Cyprus with extavagant amounts of cash and jewellrey about their person these days and being robbed.
Nicosia prison is full - but not many brits there....

Someone who has a historical connection to the island going back thousands of years can have a very strong connection to Cyprus and is very much in touch. Others, choose not to, for various reasons which I find tragic.

The Brits in Cyprus need to get involved in Cypriot society and blend in with the locals. They need to appreciate the Cypriot way. Bitching and whining won't do you any good, because Cypriots will just leave you on the outer, and this is perfectly natural.

Furthermore, the quality of Brits does indeed leave many question marks. Cyprus has attracted many Brit low lifes, which would no doubt be an embarrassment to the UK as a whole. Over 5,000 have bought stolen refugee property in the unrecognized "trnc" on the cheap. There seems to be a lack of respect towards the long suffering Cypriot people and in particular to the ethnically cleansed GC refugees. It is only natural that GCs will be angry and frustrated at this, and due to this, many good Brits will suffer because GCs as a whole will be weary and suspicious.

Then you have the low quality property developments catering to the Brit market which have altered the unique traditional character of many Cypriot villages. The Brits have been mostly uninterested in adopting Cyprus as their new country and become Cypriot citizens at the earliest opportunity. Then we have Brits on this forum who are graciously hosted in the RoC and look for every opportunity to question and mock our Cypriot inheritance. It really has nothing to do with them. It is like a Cypriot going to Scotland and telling the Scots that they are English and not Scottish. What audacity!

Now as to many Brits having their homes broken into, it is quite safe to presume that it is most likely that the perpetrators are not GC. However, it would not surprise me at all if at least some of the perpetrators are British.

Also, Nicosia prison has very few GC prisoners. Most are itinerants, illegal immigrants, foreign workers, and low and behold, a few Brits as well!

God you talk some rubbish, and again another who spouts from afar and has,nt the slightest idea what goes on here on a daily basis.

Really? How so?

Which parts of my earlier posts seem innacurate?

Btw the foreigners held in Nicosia tend to be non criminal cases, but you knew that did,nt you?

That's exactly what I said you silly POM!

Go back and read again. I will forgive your miscomprehension this time.

Also, Nicosia prison has very few GC prisoners. Most are itinerants, illegal immigrants, foreign workers, and low and behold, a few Brits as well!

BTW, there are a couple of Brits held for murder and rape!

ECRI notes that foreigners account for almost 30% of the total prison
population of Cyprus. In most cases, they are detained for offences linked to
their right to stay in the country and very rarely for violent crimes. ECRI
encourages the Cypriot authorities to carry out research on the causes of the
disproportionate representation of foreigners in Cypriot prisons.

The reason why there are so few Cypriots held in prison is because, generally speaking, Cypriots are very conservative and crime rates have always been extremely low until the sudden influx of foreign workers, illegal itinerants, and mass migration. The behavior of some Brits at Agia Napa for instance is well known. Lying comatosed in your own vomit in the gutter seems to be the British way amongst your young!

[CBBB]

Cyprus was never the same when British Mass Migration began to occur in the eighties. Coincidentally, crime and petty theft seemed to increase from this period.

A further crime spree occurred when the British Sterling lost its value, resulting in many cash strapped Brits finding their costs for living in Cyprus escalate. Surely this can't be a coincidence!

you mention the word coincidence? but all your statments are suppositon.. you always ask for the relevant deatails of facts from other peoples statements - from thousands of miles away where are yours?
Funnily enough the incidcence of British people having their property broken into is rising steeply
The people here are concerned about the rising crime and the influx from outside of Cyprus - lots of cheap labour here have lost their jobs now and the increase people speak of is over the last few years ,around four at a guess...
Seem to be a lot of people walking around Cyprus with extavagant amounts of cash and jewellrey about their person these days and being robbed.
Nicosia prison is full - but not many brits there....

Someone who has a historical connection to the island going back thousands of years can have a very strong connection to Cyprus and is very much in touch. Others, choose not to, for various reasons which I find tragic.

The Brits in Cyprus need to get involved in Cypriot society and blend in with the locals. They need to appreciate the Cypriot way. Bitching and whining won't do you any good, because Cypriots will just leave you on the outer, and this is perfectly natural.

Furthermore, the quality of Brits does indeed leave many question marks. Cyprus has attracted many Brit low lifes, which would no doubt be an embarrassment to the UK as a whole. Over 5,000 have bought stolen refugee property in the unrecognized "trnc" on the cheap. There seems to be a lack of respect towards the long suffering Cypriot people and in particular to the ethnically cleansed GC refugees. It is only natural that GCs will be angry and frustrated at this, and due to this, many good Brits will suffer because GCs as a whole will be weary and suspicious.

Then you have the low quality property developments catering to the Brit market which have altered the unique traditional character of many Cypriot villages. The Brits have been mostly uninterested in adopting Cyprus as their new country and become Cypriot citizens at the earliest opportunity. Then we have Brits on this forum who are graciously hosted in the RoC and look for every opportunity to question and mock our Cypriot inheritance. It really has nothing to do with them. It is like a Cypriot going to Scotland and telling the Scots that they are English and not Scottish. What audacity!

Now as to many Brits having their homes broken into, it is quite safe to presume that it is most likely that the perpetrators are not GC. However, it would not surprise me at all if at least some of the perpetrators are British.

Also, Nicosia prison has very few GC prisoners. Most are itinerants, illegal immigrants, foreign workers, and low and behold, a few Brits as well!

God you talk some rubbish, and again another who spouts from afar and has,nt the slightest idea what goes on here on a daily basis.

Really? How so?

Which parts of my earlier posts seem innacurate?

Btw the foreigners held in Nicosia tend to be non criminal cases, but you knew that did,nt you?

That's exactly what I said you silly POM!

Go back and read again. I will forgive your miscomprehension this time.

Also, Nicosia prison has very few GC prisoners. Most are itinerants, illegal immigrants, foreign workers, and low and behold, a few Brits as well!

BTW, there are a couple of Brits held for murder and rape!

ECRI notes that foreigners account for almost 30% of the total prison
population of Cyprus. In most cases, they are detained for offences linked to
their right to stay in the country and very rarely for violent crimes. ECRI
encourages the Cypriot authorities to carry out research on the causes of the
disproportionate representation of foreigners in Cypriot prisons.

The reason why there are so few Cypriots held in prison is because, generally speaking, Cypriots are very conservative and crime rates have always been extremely low until the sudden influx of foreign workers, illegal itinerants, and mass migration. The behavior of some Brits at Agia Napa for instance is well known. Lying comatosed in your own vomit in the gutter seems to be the British way amongst your young!

There are currently many Cypriots convicted of murder, or waiting to be tried for murder in the Nicosia Central Prison, including a couple of coppers!

[Milo]

Seems easy enough to work out does,nt it? If a third of the prison population are foreign then the rest are local or is it not that simple? Those on remand are included I suppose.

Btw the nice group of men that attacked us when we asked them to point their shotguns away from our property which was 50m away, were also NOT charged. In any other country they would have been laid out flat with a squat team and a helicopter flying overhead, But this IS Cyprus

Sorry highjacking thread I,m off now.

[CBBB]

Seems easy enough to work out does,nt it? If a third of the prison population are foreign then the rest are local or is it not that simple? Those on remand are included I suppose.

Btw the nice group of men that attacked us when we asked them to point their shotguns away from our property which was 50m away, were also NOT charged. In any other country they would have been laid out flat with a squat team and a helicopter flying overhead, But this IS Cyprus

Sorry highjacking thread I,m off now.

Most Cypriot police are short?

[Tim Drayton]

Off hand, I can think of three plausible explanations for the proportional overrepresentation of foreigners in the prison population in Cyprus:

1- Foreigners, proportionately, commit more crime.

2- The figures are skewed by large numbers of illegal immigrants or failed assylum seekers awaiting deportation included among these numbers.

3- The police target foreigners more, or the courts treat foreigners less leniently.

Perhaps there is some truth in all three of the above propositions, or maybe none of these is the true reason.

Without doing serious analysis into the reasons behind the statistics, it is absolutely meaningless to bandy such figures around.

PS - If there are only a couple of Brits, this means that the Brits are hugely underrepresented in relation to their share of the total population, so this figure actually paints the British residents of Cyprus in a glowing light. Thanks for that.

[Paphitis]

Off hand, I can think of three plausible explanations for the proportional overrepresentation of foreigners in the prison population in Cyprus:

1- Foreigners, proportionately, commit more crime.

2- The figures are skewed by large numbers of illegal immigrants or failed assylum seekers awaiting deportation included among these numbers.

3- The police target foreigners more, or the courts treat foreigners less leniently.

Perhaps there is some truth in all three of the above propositions, or maybe none of these is the true reason.

Without doing serious analysis into the reasons behind the statistics, it is absolutely meaningless to bandy such figures around.

PS - If there are only a couple of Brits, this means that the Brits are hugely underrepresented in relation to their share of the total population, so this figure actually paints the British residents of Cyprus in a glowing light. Thanks for that.

Prisoners in the Republic of Cyprus were housed in the Nicosia Central Prison. The prison population was very low. In 1990, of 260 inmates, 65 were aliens. Thus, although foreigners constituted only 1 percent of the population, they accounted for 25 percent of the prisoners. Most of these were Middle Easterners convicted of drug trafficking.

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-3617.html

Actually, just a 5 minute search on British criminal behaviour in Cyprus uncovered the following links:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 62,6105787

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/artic ... _page_id=2

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/so ... 41577.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/aug/1 ... andalcohol

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/briti ... n/20100105

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... death.html

What is even more disturbing is that I also uncovered 2 instances where British Soldiers stationed in Cyprus were found guilty of murder.

Not to mention the fact that there are some 5,000 Brits who could be charged under RoC law for possessing GC owned land illegally in the non controlled occupied areas!

I would say that Britons committing crime in Cyprus is far disproportionate to the British expat population in Cyprus. Wouldn't you agree?

There are many more, and I am prepared to start a thread if you wish!