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Postby wyoming cowboy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:15 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:Like this;

A GENUINE SOLUTION TO THE CRIME OF THE TURKISH INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND COLONISATION OF CYPRUS WOULD DEMAND

1) The immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus soil as demanded by over 130 UN Security Council resolutions

2) The immediate and unconditional repatriation of all the Turkish colonists who have been brought to Cyprus from Turkey in violation of the Geneva Convention and the cost of this to be paid for by Turkey

3) The immediate and unconditional return of all the refugees to their homes and for Turkey to compensate them for its violation of their human rights as demanded by the ECHR

4) The right for the people of Cyprus to freely choose their own form of government as demanded by the EU Constitution without the barrel of a gun pointing at their heads

Four simple steps, you you guys fill hundreds of pages of garbage.

How about it Turkey???


What about these 4 steps:

1) Immediate disolvement of the Cyprus National Guard,and total disarmament of GC reservists and civilians...

2)The Return of the TCs to their rightful place in the RoC,including the Vice President Eroglu with VETO power...

3)Full compensation for all Turkish Cypriots for their pain and suffering,their stolen political rights,and for their loss of earnings and life enjoyment capacity as a result of the futile ENOSIS dream...

4)An unconditional guarantee by the GCs,overseen by the EU and the UN, that they will obey the requirements of the RoC constitution without hatching Akritas like plans to rob the TCs of their political and human rights....

How about it B25???? :wink:
if you add b25's request along with your requests we would have a deal.....but
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:56 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:Like this;

A GENUINE SOLUTION TO THE CRIME OF THE TURKISH INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND COLONISATION OF CYPRUS WOULD DEMAND

1) The immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus soil as demanded by over 130 UN Security Council resolutions

2) The immediate and unconditional repatriation of all the Turkish colonists who have been brought to Cyprus from Turkey in violation of the Geneva Convention and the cost of this to be paid for by Turkey

3) The immediate and unconditional return of all the refugees to their homes and for Turkey to compensate them for its violation of their human rights as demanded by the ECHR

4) The right for the people of Cyprus to freely choose their own form of government as demanded by the EU Constitution without the barrel of a gun pointing at their heads

Four simple steps, you you guys fill hundreds of pages of garbage.

How about it Turkey???


What about these 4 steps:

1) Immediate disolvement of the Cyprus National Guard,and total disarmament of GC reservists and civilians...

2)The Return of the TCs to their rightful place in the RoC,including the Vice President Eroglu with VETO power...

3)Full compensation for all Turkish Cypriots for their pain and suffering,their stolen political rights,and for their loss of earnings and life enjoyment capacity as a result of the futile ENOSIS dream...

4)An unconditional guarantee by the GCs,overseen by the EU and the UN, that they will obey the requirements of the RoC constitution without hatching Akritas like plans to rob the TCs of their political and human rights....

How about it B25???? :wink:
if you add b25's request along with your requests we would have a deal.....but


Yes,a big BUT...WC..
B25 can only see one side of the coin...He will dismiss the other side as inconsequential..just wait and see... :)
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Postby SKI-preo » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:50 am

Commerce. Cyprus can be saved by Commerce. Starting by appointing a qualified Turkish Cypriot on each major company board in the free areas. Cypriots, whether Greek or Turkish speaking need to see the human cost of crimes against either side. Turkish Cypriots can easily dismiss war crimes committed against civilian greek cypriots as propaganda if they do not deal with them in their every day life and the same goes for greek Cypriots who do not deal with turkish cypriots who have suffered. Partition or aparthied will only result in a time bomb. One day it will explode for example when Turkey is distracted somewhere else. If poushtokalamaes were to form more business partnerships with Turkey then that is another story. The result in that case will be armagedon.
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Postby B25 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:00 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:Like this;

A GENUINE SOLUTION TO THE CRIME OF THE TURKISH INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND COLONISATION OF CYPRUS WOULD DEMAND

1) The immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus soil as demanded by over 130 UN Security Council resolutions

2) The immediate and unconditional repatriation of all the Turkish colonists who have been brought to Cyprus from Turkey in violation of the Geneva Convention and the cost of this to be paid for by Turkey

3) The immediate and unconditional return of all the refugees to their homes and for Turkey to compensate them for its violation of their human rights as demanded by the ECHR

4) The right for the people of Cyprus to freely choose their own form of government as demanded by the EU Constitution without the barrel of a gun pointing at their heads

Four simple steps, you you guys fill hundreds of pages of garbage.

How about it Turkey???


What about these 4 steps:

1) Immediate disolvement of the Cyprus National Guard,and total disarmament of GC reservists and civilians...

2)The Return of the TCs to their rightful place in the RoC,including the Vice President Eroglu with VETO power...

3)Full compensation for all Turkish Cypriots for their pain and suffering,their stolen political rights,and for their loss of earnings and life enjoyment capacity as a result of the futile ENOSIS dream...

4)An unconditional guarantee by the GCs,overseen by the EU and the UN, that they will obey the requirements of the RoC constitution without hatching Akritas like plans to rob the TCs of their political and human rights....

How about it B25???? :wink:
if you add b25's request along with your requests we would have a deal.....but


Yes,a big BUT...WC..
B25 can only see one side of the coin...He will dismiss the other side as inconsequential..just wait and see... :)


Well, well, well, if it ain't Bir baiting me again.

Here, you do the 4 simple steps I mention above. And we will talk about your 4 steps later, when we don't have 40,000 machine guns stuck in our faces. Deal???

When to you leave?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:26 pm

B25 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:Like this;

A GENUINE SOLUTION TO THE CRIME OF THE TURKISH INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND COLONISATION OF CYPRUS WOULD DEMAND

1) The immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus soil as demanded by over 130 UN Security Council resolutions

2) The immediate and unconditional repatriation of all the Turkish colonists who have been brought to Cyprus from Turkey in violation of the Geneva Convention and the cost of this to be paid for by Turkey

3) The immediate and unconditional return of all the refugees to their homes and for Turkey to compensate them for its violation of their human rights as demanded by the ECHR

4) The right for the people of Cyprus to freely choose their own form of government as demanded by the EU Constitution without the barrel of a gun pointing at their heads

Four simple steps, you you guys fill hundreds of pages of garbage.

How about it Turkey???


What about these 4 steps:

1) Immediate disolvement of the Cyprus National Guard,and total disarmament of GC reservists and civilians...

2)The Return of the TCs to their rightful place in the RoC,including the Vice President Eroglu with VETO power...

3)Full compensation for all Turkish Cypriots for their pain and suffering,their stolen political rights,and for their loss of earnings and life enjoyment capacity as a result of the futile ENOSIS dream...

4)An unconditional guarantee by the GCs,overseen by the EU and the UN, that they will obey the requirements of the RoC constitution without hatching Akritas like plans to rob the TCs of their political and human rights....

How about it B25???? :wink:
if you add b25's request along with your requests we would have a deal.....but


Yes,a big BUT...WC..
B25 can only see one side of the coin...He will dismiss the other side as inconsequential..just wait and see... :)


Well, well, well, if it ain't Bir baiting me again.

Here, you do the 4 simple steps I mention above. And we will talk about your 4 steps later, when we don't have 40,000 machine guns stuck in our faces. Deal???

When to you leave?


Why do you need the soldiers to withdraw??? You got something unsavory in mind??? :wink:
Or do you think the TCs are mad???

Let me tell you a madman joke,and you make of it what you will<B25...

Two mental patients are walking at night in the hospital gardens. One is holding a torch,and keeps switching it on and off as they make their way around...The one with the torch looks up and sees a very tall poplar tree.
"Hey," he says to his friend," why don't you sit on this light beam and I will put you up on top of this tree..." His friend starts laughing..."Do you think I am crazy or something? I will get on the beam ,you will put me up in the air,but just before I can get on the tree,you will switch the torch off.." :D
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Postby YFred » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:01 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:Like this;

A GENUINE SOLUTION TO THE CRIME OF THE TURKISH INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND COLONISATION OF CYPRUS WOULD DEMAND

1) The immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus soil as demanded by over 130 UN Security Council resolutions

2) The immediate and unconditional repatriation of all the Turkish colonists who have been brought to Cyprus from Turkey in violation of the Geneva Convention and the cost of this to be paid for by Turkey

3) The immediate and unconditional return of all the refugees to their homes and for Turkey to compensate them for its violation of their human rights as demanded by the ECHR

4) The right for the people of Cyprus to freely choose their own form of government as demanded by the EU Constitution without the barrel of a gun pointing at their heads

Four simple steps, you you guys fill hundreds of pages of garbage.

How about it Turkey???


What about these 4 steps:

1) Immediate disolvement of the Cyprus National Guard,and total disarmament of GC reservists and civilians...

2)The Return of the TCs to their rightful place in the RoC,including the Vice President Eroglu with VETO power...

3)Full compensation for all Turkish Cypriots for their pain and suffering,their stolen political rights,and for their loss of earnings and life enjoyment capacity as a result of the futile ENOSIS dream...

4)An unconditional guarantee by the GCs,overseen by the EU and the UN, that they will obey the requirements of the RoC constitution without hatching Akritas like plans to rob the TCs of their political and human rights....

How about it B25???? :wink:
if you add b25's request along with your requests we would have a deal.....but


Yes,a big BUT...WC..
B25 can only see one side of the coin...He will dismiss the other side as inconsequential..just wait and see... :)


Well, well, well, if it ain't Bir baiting me again.

Here, you do the 4 simple steps I mention above. And we will talk about your 4 steps later, when we don't have 40,000 machine guns stuck in our faces. Deal???

When to you leave?


Why do you need the soldiers to withdraw??? You got something unsavory in mind??? :wink:
Or do you think the TCs are mad???

Let me tell you a madman joke,and you make of it what you will<B25...

Two mental patients are walking at night in the hospital gardens. One is holding a torch,and keeps switching it on and off as they make their way around...The one with the torch looks up and sees a very tall poplar tree.
"Hey," he says to his friend," why don't you sit on this light beam and I will put you up on top of this tree..." His friend starts laughing..."Do you think I am crazy or something? I will get on the beam ,you will put me up in the air,but just before I can get on the tree,you will switch the torch off.." :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby B25 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:36 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:Like this;

A GENUINE SOLUTION TO THE CRIME OF THE TURKISH INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND COLONISATION OF CYPRUS WOULD DEMAND

1) The immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus soil as demanded by over 130 UN Security Council resolutions

2) The immediate and unconditional repatriation of all the Turkish colonists who have been brought to Cyprus from Turkey in violation of the Geneva Convention and the cost of this to be paid for by Turkey

3) The immediate and unconditional return of all the refugees to their homes and for Turkey to compensate them for its violation of their human rights as demanded by the ECHR

4) The right for the people of Cyprus to freely choose their own form of government as demanded by the EU Constitution without the barrel of a gun pointing at their heads

Four simple steps, you you guys fill hundreds of pages of garbage.

How about it Turkey???


What about these 4 steps:

1) Immediate disolvement of the Cyprus National Guard,and total disarmament of GC reservists and civilians...

2)The Return of the TCs to their rightful place in the RoC,including the Vice President Eroglu with VETO power...

3)Full compensation for all Turkish Cypriots for their pain and suffering,their stolen political rights,and for their loss of earnings and life enjoyment capacity as a result of the futile ENOSIS dream...

4)An unconditional guarantee by the GCs,overseen by the EU and the UN, that they will obey the requirements of the RoC constitution without hatching Akritas like plans to rob the TCs of their political and human rights....

How about it B25???? :wink:
if you add b25's request along with your requests we would have a deal.....but


Yes,a big BUT...WC..
B25 can only see one side of the coin...He will dismiss the other side as inconsequential..just wait and see... :)


Well, well, well, if it ain't Bir baiting me again.

Here, you do the 4 simple steps I mention above. And we will talk about your 4 steps later, when we don't have 40,000 machine guns stuck in our faces. Deal???

When to you leave?


Why do you need the soldiers to withdraw??? You got something unsavory in mind??? :wink:
Or do you think the TCs are mad???

Let me tell you a madman joke,and you make of it what you will<B25...

Two mental patients are walking at night in the hospital gardens. One is holding a torch,and keeps switching it on and off as they make their way around...The one with the torch looks up and sees a very tall poplar tree.
"Hey," he says to his friend," why don't you sit on this light beam and I will put you up on top of this tree..." His friend starts laughing..."Do you think I am crazy or something? I will get on the beam ,you will put me up in the air,but just before I can get on the tree,you will switch the torch off.." :D


Therefore we must both be mental then??

I knew I was, you just pretend not to be :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:45 pm

B25 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:Like this;

A GENUINE SOLUTION TO THE CRIME OF THE TURKISH INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND COLONISATION OF CYPRUS WOULD DEMAND

1) The immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus soil as demanded by over 130 UN Security Council resolutions

2) The immediate and unconditional repatriation of all the Turkish colonists who have been brought to Cyprus from Turkey in violation of the Geneva Convention and the cost of this to be paid for by Turkey

3) The immediate and unconditional return of all the refugees to their homes and for Turkey to compensate them for its violation of their human rights as demanded by the ECHR

4) The right for the people of Cyprus to freely choose their own form of government as demanded by the EU Constitution without the barrel of a gun pointing at their heads

Four simple steps, you you guys fill hundreds of pages of garbage.

How about it Turkey???


What about these 4 steps:

1) Immediate disolvement of the Cyprus National Guard,and total disarmament of GC reservists and civilians...

2)The Return of the TCs to their rightful place in the RoC,including the Vice President Eroglu with VETO power...

3)Full compensation for all Turkish Cypriots for their pain and suffering,their stolen political rights,and for their loss of earnings and life enjoyment capacity as a result of the futile ENOSIS dream...

4)An unconditional guarantee by the GCs,overseen by the EU and the UN, that they will obey the requirements of the RoC constitution without hatching Akritas like plans to rob the TCs of their political and human rights....

How about it B25???? :wink:
if you add b25's request along with your requests we would have a deal.....but


Yes,a big BUT...WC..
B25 can only see one side of the coin...He will dismiss the other side as inconsequential..just wait and see... :)


Well, well, well, if it ain't Bir baiting me again.

Here, you do the 4 simple steps I mention above. And we will talk about your 4 steps later, when we don't have 40,000 machine guns stuck in our faces. Deal???

When to you leave?


Why do you need the soldiers to withdraw??? You got something unsavory in mind??? :wink:
Or do you think the TCs are mad???

Let me tell you a madman joke,and you make of it what you will<B25...

Two mental patients are walking at night in the hospital gardens. One is holding a torch,and keeps switching it on and off as they make their way around...The one with the torch looks up and sees a very tall poplar tree.
"Hey," he says to his friend," why don't you sit on this light beam and I will put you up on top of this tree..." His friend starts laughing..."Do you think I am crazy or something? I will get on the beam ,you will put me up in the air,but just before I can get on the tree,you will switch the torch off.." :D


Therefore we must both be mental then??

I knew I was, you just pretend not to be :lol:


:wink: :lol:
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Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:02 am

Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:Like this;

A GENUINE SOLUTION TO THE CRIME OF THE TURKISH INVASION, OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND COLONISATION OF CYPRUS WOULD DEMAND

1) The immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all Turkish troops from Cyprus soil as demanded by over 130 UN Security Council resolutions

2) The immediate and unconditional repatriation of all the Turkish colonists who have been brought to Cyprus from Turkey in violation of the Geneva Convention and the cost of this to be paid for by Turkey

3) The immediate and unconditional return of all the refugees to their homes and for Turkey to compensate them for its violation of their human rights as demanded by the ECHR

4) The right for the people of Cyprus to freely choose their own form of government as demanded by the EU Constitution without the barrel of a gun pointing at their heads

Four simple steps, you you guys fill hundreds of pages of garbage.

How about it Turkey???


Why should we do what you demand? and dont say its the right thing to do, right for who? GCs?


...the GCs too.

most importantly it is good for Turkey, and although the cost would be high monetarily, her image Internationally would shine. few have courage viewpoint, and to be held in that esteem it is based on acts. without this desire, like Kemal's, the Turkish people wither from a dogmatism that once they overcame.

in this modern world, we must change. "Greek" and "Turk" are current but it(they) is(are) not exclusive, our Identity as Individuals is not described with one word (except equal and that is as Human Beings). for Cypriots to end this Problem, we must in one way or another return the kindness of Mankind, who have given us this choice, as this island's dwellers, to end our subjugation, and to confirm our Pride for this Heritance, regardless our ethnic origins, so beautiful, old and rare .

...what is wrong with enclaves, what is wrong with one Republic, as well as two (or more) National Assemblies. Bicommunal, not Greek and Turk, but Person and Individual. ...and Bizonal instead of an island torn in two.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:41 am

Well...I keep throwing this idea about,but nobody is biting...

There is one sure way to solve our little problem of Turks and Greeks...

You forbid all young people from marrying their own ethnic kind..GCs have to marry TCs,and vice versa,the Armenian Cypriots GCs or TCs,the British (assuming there are some childbearing-aged ones in Cyprus :wink: ) can marry GCs,TCs,ACs or MCs....Bingo,withing 50 years we have a nation of Cypriots...Problem solved,Cyprus saved... :lol:
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