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[Oracle]

I'm extremly dissapointed on bias action of Qatari officials regarding current status of Cyprus..their visit should not be regarded as cyprus visit as whole..Qatari officials visited Southern Cyprus not Cyprus as whole!!. Turkish republic of Northern Cyprus is another independent country. However, we the Turkish Cypriots, agreed the Annan plan to rmove borders and become one country...but Greeks first they agreed Annan plan until they have been accepted to the EU..later, unbelivably, they deined all and rejected the ANNAN plan!! this is a huge diplomatic scandal in United Nation history!! The greek cypriots and greece basically CHEATED!!
Currently, the Turkish part of cyprus has been isolated..and no investment comes from anywhere from the world but Turkiye...
COnsequently, I wish to repeat my dissapointment that Qatari goverment is investing only in greek part of cyprus...and neglecting the Turkish part!! greek part is leaving as a leach!! they get financial support from EU..but Turkish part gets nothing...

Is this really what you think?

[Acikgoz]

Hang tight kid - anything you thought about racism on our island will be significatly fortified and before you know it incredibly magnified reader69.

Oracle is a particularly affectionate beast.

[Oracle]

Why don't you spend a little time re-educating this kid, Acigkoz, before he gets him/herself into trouble? Or do you think along the same lines?

Just save him from your monotonous labelling of everyone who believes in Human Rights as a "racist" and you'll be fine.

[Hatter]

Turkish republic of Northern Cyprus is another independent country.

No it is not. It is neither independent nor a country.

However, the Turkish Cypriots, agreed the Annan plan to rmove borders and become one country...but Greeks first they agreed Annan plan until they have been accepted to the EU..later, unbelivably, they deined all and rejected the ANNAN plan!!

The GCs did not agree the Annan plan, they agreed to put it to the vote in a referendum. This they did. The people voted (this is called d-e-m-o-c-r-a-c-y. Look it up in the dictionary, I believe it is a greek word). The outcome of the referendum was 76% against, so the result was NO.

this is a huge diplomatic scandal in United Nation history!! The greek cypriots and greece basically CHEATED!!

No it is not, only in your mind it is a scandal, and only because of the untruths that you believe. The GCs did not cheat, they did exactly as agreed.

Currently, the Turkish part of cyprus has been isolated..and no investment comes from anywhere from the world but Turkiye...

And it will continue to be isolated, because it is an illegal and unrecognised regime. Legally, it is part of the jurisdiction of the Republic of Cyprus, but because of the (illegal) presence of the turkish army, the ROC cannot exercise its jurisdiction there currently. But the sovereignty and ownership remains with the Republic of Cyprus for public land, and with the original legal owners for private land.

greek part is leaving as a leach!! they get financial support from EU..but Turkish part gets nothing

Certain finacial support from EU, yes, but no more and no less than other similar member states of the EU. Millions of Euros were made available for the TCs by the EU, but the TC leadership rejected it because legally it had to be transferred via the recognised government of the Republic of Cyprus. As a result of the TC leadership narrow mindedness, the money was not sent from EU.

Qatari goverment is investing only in greek part of cyprus...

They invested in Turkey, but not in the "TRNC". does that tell you something?

[Oracle]

Turkish republic of Northern Cyprus is another independent country.

No it is not. It is neither independent nor a country.

However, the Turkish Cypriots, agreed the Annan plan to rmove borders and become one country...but Greeks first they agreed Annan plan until they have been accepted to the EU..later, unbelivably, they deined all and rejected the ANNAN plan!!

The GCs did not agree the Annan plan, they agreed to put it to the vote in a referendum. This they did. The people voted (this is called d-e-m-o-c-r-a-c-y. Look it up in the dictionary, I believe it is a greek word). The outcome of the referendum was 76% against, so the result was NO.

this is a huge diplomatic scandal in United Nation history!! The greek cypriots and greece basically CHEATED!!

No it is not, only in your mind it is a scandal, and only because of the untruths that you believe. The GCs did not cheat, they did exactly as agreed.

Currently, the Turkish part of cyprus has been isolated..and no investment comes from anywhere from the world but Turkiye...

And it will continue to be isolated, because it is an illegal and unrecognised regime. Legally, it is part of the jurisdiction of the Republic of Cyprus, but because of the (illegal) presence of the turkish army, the ROC cannot exercise its jurisdiction there currently. But the sovereignty and ownership remains with the Republic of Cyprus for public land, and with the original legal owners for private land.

greek part is leaving as a leach!! they get financial support from EU..but Turkish part gets nothing

Certain finacial support from EU, yes, but no more and no less than other similar member states of the EU. Millions of Euros were made available for the TCs by the EU, but the TC leadership rejected it because legally it had to be transferred via the recognised government of the Republic of Cyprus. As a result of the TC leadership narrow mindedness, the money was not sent from EU.

Qatari goverment is investing only in greek part of cyprus...

They invested in Turkey, but not in the "TRNC". does that tell you something?

So patient and clear. You make a good teacher!

[Acikgoz]

I'll bite. As a free markets person I believe people can invest where they like in general. Good for the RoC for attracting investment, but as a few have pointed out the method of investment is critical, not the sticker number.
I share reader's frustration that they didn't invest in the north, but hey that's down to our people to attract the business and make it feasible for them. Slowly they are doing so. The investments in 2002-2008 will bear more fruit, the ECHR ruling will assist.
The maintenance of the status quo actually further strenghens the position of TCs as the hypocracy is demonstrated, short term pain though more entrenched outcome in the future.
Yes the TRNC is a country, not everyone defines it as such but hey a country is a man made concept and therefore able to be interpreted by man upon his/her subjective.

"The truth shall set you free" is a cliche but, given the immature nature of Cypriots in general as it pertains to the Cyprus problem, it is quite appropriate as the more we deny the past of both communities (enjoy seeing the sooooo often) the further entrenched the positions become.


Be keen to share your thoughts and ideas, but please consider the implications of your comments - racism and bigotry is rife. If an EU community officer was to review this site there probably would be an effort to remove this for hate-mongering - if that is possible.

Note for Oracle: believing in human rights is not an excuse for racism, you know that we all know that.

[Oracle]

All I know about you, Acingoz, is that you support racist segregation of Cyprus yet label everyone else who opposes such Apartheid as a "racist". Thus proving that you are not only a racist, but stupid to boot!

[Hatter]

Turkish republic of Northern Cyprus is another independent country.

No it is not. It is neither independent nor a country.

However, the Turkish Cypriots, agreed the Annan plan to rmove borders and become one country...but Greeks first they agreed Annan plan until they have been accepted to the EU..later, unbelivably, they deined all and rejected the ANNAN plan!!

The GCs did not agree the Annan plan, they agreed to put it to the vote in a referendum. This they did. The people voted (this is called d-e-m-o-c-r-a-c-y. Look it up in the dictionary, I believe it is a greek word). The outcome of the referendum was 76% against, so the result was NO.

this is a huge diplomatic scandal in United Nation history!! The greek cypriots and greece basically CHEATED!!

No it is not, only in your mind it is a scandal, and only because of the untruths that you believe. The GCs did not cheat, they did exactly as agreed.

Currently, the Turkish part of cyprus has been isolated..and no investment comes from anywhere from the world but Turkiye...

And it will continue to be isolated, because it is an illegal and unrecognised regime. Legally, it is part of the jurisdiction of the Republic of Cyprus, but because of the (illegal) presence of the turkish army, the ROC cannot exercise its jurisdiction there currently. But the sovereignty and ownership remains with the Republic of Cyprus for public land, and with the original legal owners for private land.

greek part is leaving as a leach!! they get financial support from EU..but Turkish part gets nothing

Certain finacial support from EU, yes, but no more and no less than other similar member states of the EU. Millions of Euros were made available for the TCs by the EU, but the TC leadership rejected it because legally it had to be transferred via the recognised government of the Republic of Cyprus. As a result of the TC leadership narrow mindedness, the money was not sent from EU.

Qatari goverment is investing only in greek part of cyprus...

They invested in Turkey, but not in the "TRNC". does that tell you something?

So patient and clear. You make a good teacher!

Thank you. One has one's moments!
Can't help wondering where they get fed all this stuff.

[Acikgoz]

What is racist about believing that our societies are not ready to live as one people one vote unitary govt. That is being a realist, each of your blogs further convince me of that truth. In the long term I believe they will live very well together, but as any shrink would tell most on this site, there are some serious issues to work through.
My point of view is simple, I know you can understand it, you simply cannot help but sling mud rather that evaluate the principles of the argument.

Apartheid is the extension of the isolation regime that began 50 years ago as TCs were treated as 2nd class citizens. You throw it around like you are justifying GC positions - but do not realise how much it has relevance to the persecution of TCs.

As Forest said "stupid is as stupid does" right back atcha.
I am pro-solution, partial or in total, that represents the realities and not the political desires of ALL the people that have a life on the island.

[Oracle]

What is racist about believing that our societies are not ready to live as one people one vote unitary govt.

If that is what you believe, then a "racist" is exactly what you are!

Nothing else you said mitigates this position of yours.