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[georgios100]

If Erdogan stopped the money, he would be toppled tomorrow.

It's beyond delusion that a bunch of "Turkish Cypriots" being fast replaced by Turkish mainlanders can have an effect on Ankara!

You are such an arsehole. Its the mainlanders using TCs to block by Erdogan and his eu venture. How stupid can you get?
In a scale of 1 to 10 you score -100000000000000000000000000000

I don't think Erdogan will allow that. He controls the whole thing including fast relocating mainlanders into TRNC. It's the TCs that have to worry about it, as their "homeland" is invaded by others. Soon, Eroglu/Denktas to be sidelined and become azas or muctars, at best. The settler issue is in fact backfiring on them... what now Yfred? Any bright ideas? Please don't squeel your way out of this with rough language but rather provide a decent answer this time.

Georgios100

[YFred]

If Erdogan stopped the money, he would be toppled tomorrow.

It's beyond delusion that a bunch of "Turkish Cypriots" being fast replaced by Turkish mainlanders can have an effect on Ankara!

You are such an arsehole. Its the mainlanders using TCs to block by Erdogan and his eu venture. How stupid can you get?
In a scale of 1 to 10 you score -100000000000000000000000000000

I don't think Erdogan will allow that. He controls the whole thing including fast relocating mainlanders into TRNC. It's the TCs that have to worry about it, as their "homeland" is invaded by others. Soon, Eroglu/Denktas to be sidelined and become azas or muctars, at best. The settler issue is in fact backfiring on them... what now Yfred? Any bright ideas? Please don't squeel your way out of this with rough language but rather provide a decent answer this time.

Georgios100

No need my friend. You have no idea how the Turkish state works. You have no idea who controls what. If they could use the only weapon they have they would have used it against Denktash. Erdogan tried very hard to get rid of Dengtash and here we are he is involved in the negotiations. That is proof enough that opponents of Erdogan are in control and will attempt to destroy him before the elections but if not, he will not win the next elections.

[denizaksulu]

TRNC New President Eroglu ;
Negotiating team and they are: Dr. Dervis Eroglu, Rauf Denktas (Advisor of the Negotiating Team), Ata Atun, Serdar Denktas (Chief Negotiator), Ismet Kotak, Taner Etkin, Huseyin Ozgurgun, Vedat Celik and Ergun Olgun.

All of these guys are war criminals, TMT members, butchered their own TC people during the EOKA struggle for freedom... Eroglu's first mistake... a big one... Erdogan should step in & dismantle this team (if he still wants a solution by the end of the year).

To my fellow TCs... you voted for the wrong guy! I see another 36 years of limbo coming up.

Georgios100

I am very curious, how many TCs were 'butchered' exactly?

[YFred]

TRNC New President Eroglu ;
Negotiating team and they are: Dr. Dervis Eroglu, Rauf Denktas (Advisor of the Negotiating Team), Ata Atun, Serdar Denktas (Chief Negotiator), Ismet Kotak, Taner Etkin, Huseyin Ozgurgun, Vedat Celik and Ergun Olgun.

All of these guys are war criminals, TMT members, butchered their own TC people during the EOKA struggle for freedom... Eroglu's first mistake... a big one... Erdogan should step in & dismantle this team (if he still wants a solution by the end of the year).

To my fellow TCs... you voted for the wrong guy! I see another 36 years of limbo coming up.

Georgios100

I am very curious, how many TCs were 'butchered' exactly?

Most of the TCs who were butchered were by the eoka with the exception of 3 that were done by TMT. Is there any more?

[georgios100]

If Erdogan stopped the money, he would be toppled tomorrow.

It's beyond delusion that a bunch of "Turkish Cypriots" being fast replaced by Turkish mainlanders can have an effect on Ankara!

You are such an arsehole. Its the mainlanders using TCs to block by Erdogan and his eu venture. How stupid can you get?
In a scale of 1 to 10 you score -100000000000000000000000000000

I don't think Erdogan will allow that. He controls the whole thing including fast relocating mainlanders into TRNC. It's the TCs that have to worry about it, as their "homeland" is invaded by others. Soon, Eroglu/Denktas to be sidelined and become azas or muctars, at best. The settler issue is in fact backfiring on them... what now Yfred? Any bright ideas? Please don't squeel your way out of this with rough language but rather provide a decent answer this time.

Georgios100

No need my friend. You have no idea how the Turkish state works. You have no idea who controls what. If they could use the only weapon they have they would have used it against Denktash. Erdogan tried very hard to get rid of Dengtash and here we are he is involved in the negotiations. That is proof enough that opponents of Erdogan are in control and will attempt to destroy him before the elections but if not, he will not win the next elections.

Turkish politics is like a latino novela... no one knows what is to happen next week... or at the end of it (including the director).

I am not sure who controls what in TRNC, do you? One thing is for sure, Erdogan managed to get rid of some of the generals plotting against him. How many more are still at large? Many. And not just military personnel.

Do you think Denktas is a tough cookie? I don't. Denktas is a weasel of a politician. He plays many roles... to save his own skin. The endless talks of Klerides vs Denktas was his golden age. He can still pull some strings but in the end we all know, he is small fry... perhaps his son can do better.

As for Eroglu, well, I think choosing Denktas as part of his team is like putting a snake in his sleeve... eventually to bite him... what a moron! Was Eroglu campaining that he will have Denktas as an advisor, hell no! Denktas was running his own campaing (but the deal was done), cheating the voters into Eroglu's trap. Good luck sorting this one out... Talat got the short end of the stick.

I remind you again, partition is not an option, at least for Turkey. So why Eroglu picked Denktas as a partner? Eroglu can promote partition by him self... who needs Denktas and for what?

Georgios100

[georgios100]

TRNC New President Eroglu ;
Negotiating team and they are: Dr. Dervis Eroglu, Rauf Denktas (Advisor of the Negotiating Team), Ata Atun, Serdar Denktas (Chief Negotiator), Ismet Kotak, Taner Etkin, Huseyin Ozgurgun, Vedat Celik and Ergun Olgun.

All of these guys are war criminals, TMT members, butchered their own TC people during the EOKA struggle for freedom... Eroglu's first mistake... a big one... Erdogan should step in & dismantle this team (if he still wants a solution by the end of the year).

To my fellow TCs... you voted for the wrong guy! I see another 36 years of limbo coming up.

Georgios100

I am very curious, how many TCs were 'butchered' exactly?

Most of the TCs who were butchered were by the eoka with the exception of 3 that were done by TMT. Is there any more?

Don't know exactly how many... but even if only one was butchered, well, it's one too many.

Georgios100

[YFred]

TRNC New President Eroglu ;
Negotiating team and they are: Dr. Dervis Eroglu, Rauf Denktas (Advisor of the Negotiating Team), Ata Atun, Serdar Denktas (Chief Negotiator), Ismet Kotak, Taner Etkin, Huseyin Ozgurgun, Vedat Celik and Ergun Olgun.

All of these guys are war criminals, TMT members, butchered their own TC people during the EOKA struggle for freedom... Eroglu's first mistake... a big one... Erdogan should step in & dismantle this team (if he still wants a solution by the end of the year).

To my fellow TCs... you voted for the wrong guy! I see another 36 years of limbo coming up.

Georgios100

I am very curious, how many TCs were 'butchered' exactly?

Most of the TCs who were butchered were by the eoka with the exception of 3 that were done by TMT. Is there any more?

Don't know exactly how many... but even if only one was butchered, well, it's one too many.

Georgios100

Yep we agree on that one. What about the 500 or so TCs that eoka killed? What about them?

[kurupetos]

TRNC New President Eroglu ;
Negotiating team and they are: Dr. Dervis Eroglu, Rauf Denktas (Advisor of the Negotiating Team), Ata Atun, Serdar Denktas (Chief Negotiator), Ismet Kotak, Taner Etkin, Huseyin Ozgurgun, Vedat Celik and Ergun Olgun.

All of these guys are war criminals, TMT members, butchered their own TC people during the EOKA struggle for freedom... Eroglu's first mistake... a big one... Erdogan should step in & dismantle this team (if he still wants a solution by the end of the year).

To my fellow TCs... you voted for the wrong guy! I see another 36 years of limbo coming up.

Georgios100

I am very curious, how many TCs were 'butchered' exactly?

Most of the TCs who were butchered were by the eoka with the exception of 3 that were done by TMT. Is there any more?

Don't know exactly how many... but even if only one was butchered, well, it's one too many.

Georgios100

Yep we agree on that one. What about the 500 or so TCs that eoka killed? What about them?

They had it coming. You are next!

[denizaksulu]

TRNC New President Eroglu ;
Negotiating team and they are: Dr. Dervis Eroglu, Rauf Denktas (Advisor of the Negotiating Team), Ata Atun, Serdar Denktas (Chief Negotiator), Ismet Kotak, Taner Etkin, Huseyin Ozgurgun, Vedat Celik and Ergun Olgun.

All of these guys are war criminals, TMT members, butchered their own TC people during the EOKA struggle for freedom... Eroglu's first mistake... a big one... Erdogan should step in & dismantle this team (if he still wants a solution by the end of the year).

To my fellow TCs... you voted for the wrong guy! I see another 36 years of limbo coming up.

Georgios100

I am very curious, how many TCs were 'butchered' exactly?

Most of the TCs who were butchered were by the eoka with the exception of 3 that were done by TMT. Is there any more?

You know the three I am aware of. Georgios100 seems to know of a lot more. I was asking him if he was privy to any info that we are unaware of.

[humanist]

Deniz

Turkish Cypriots voted for Talat and the others.

Cyprus Turks voted for Eroglu.

Simple really.

Goes to show that TC's are the biggest losers in all of this minority in their own country, where obviously decisions are made by Turks of Turkey and it will get worse as they multiply. Only option is for individual families to start moving south regaining their homes receiving assistance from RoC to rebuild homes etc and get jobs. Only way to fight against the Atila. Hopefully once more TC's move to their villages then RoC can argue that Turkish army is there only to meet Turkish needs. Big ask but possibly the only way for these people to enjoy freedom and a European way of life ..... whatever this means in a globalised situation we are all in in 2010.