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[YFred]

I don't really understand this attitude of 'no hope for unification' now that Eroglu is in.

Gassman, come on mate, look at his team.

The Denktashes have been advocating partition since the 50's, they were removed from power (eventually) to give a solution a chance, and now they are back.

Do you really believe we have a reunification chance now???

I am just wondering if the selection is deliberate, to really piss off the GC side and have them walk away. I hope pres X plays them at their own game and sticks with it, but who could blame him if he did walk.

All he needs to do is site Denktash as being the main obstacle and everyone knows the rest.

Troubled times ahead me thinks.

With respect, I think you are an example of the phenomenon that Gasman has identified. Prior to the elections, you were screaming, "Who cares which jerk gets elected, they are all freakin' puppets of Ankara etc. etc.". Now you are telling us that it DOES matter who got elected.

Wrong, It doesn't matter who got elected, the team he has presented is one for partition and to cause maximum damage at the talks. Turkey will always have the last say, but with Denktash in there, given his involvement in the deep state. erdogenkan and other secret goings on, there is going to be big trouble.

personally it doesn't matter to me who the pseudo leader is because thats all he is and they are all puppets to the master.

When Tpap was president all we got from the TCs was shit how he was the leader of the EOKA, Akritas plan etc etc, now what are they going to say when they have just elected the TMT gods. I think even Turkey is going to have difficult issues with this one.

Looking at these names, yes, a cold chill runs down my spine because as you say this is a team for partition. There is nevertheless a logical inconsistency in what you are saying. One could very well argue - as Afrika newspaper has - that it is Ankara that calls the shots and it is totally irrelevant who gets elected. If you adopt that position, you have to be consistent. This team has been chosen by Eroğlu and Talat would most certainly not have appointed them. Either it makes a difference who was elected or it doesn't.

If you are trying to come to terms with Bastardo25's illogic, forget it me old mucker. You must have something worthwhile to do than waste your time.

[Tim Drayton]

I don't really understand this attitude of 'no hope for unification' now that Eroglu is in.

Gassman, come on mate, look at his team.

The Denktashes have been advocating partition since the 50's, they were removed from power (eventually) to give a solution a chance, and now they are back.

Do you really believe we have a reunification chance now???

I am just wondering if the selection is deliberate, to really piss off the GC side and have them walk away. I hope pres X plays them at their own game and sticks with it, but who could blame him if he did walk.

All he needs to do is site Denktash as being the main obstacle and everyone knows the rest.

Troubled times ahead me thinks.

With respect, I think you are an example of the phenomenon that Gasman has identified. Prior to the elections, you were screaming, "Who cares which jerk gets elected, they are all freakin' puppets of Ankara etc. etc.". Now you are telling us that it DOES matter who got elected.

Wrong, It doesn't matter who got elected, the team he has presented is one for partition and to cause maximum damage at the talks. Turkey will always have the last say, but with Denktash in there, given his involvement in the deep state. erdogenkan and other secret goings on, there is going to be big trouble.

personally it doesn't matter to me who the pseudo leader is because thats all he is and they are all puppets to the master.

When Tpap was president all we got from the TCs was shit how he was the leader of the EOKA, Akritas plan etc etc, now what are they going to say when they have just elected the TMT gods. I think even Turkey is going to have difficult issues with this one.

Looking at these names, yes, a cold chill runs down my spine because as you say this is a team for partition. There is nevertheless a logical inconsistency in what you are saying. One could very well argue - as Afrika newspaper has - that it is Ankara that calls the shots and it is totally irrelevant who gets elected. If you adopt that position, you have to be consistent. This team has been chosen by Eroğlu and Talat would most certainly not have appointed them. Either it makes a difference who was elected or it doesn't.

If you are trying to come to terms with Bastardo25's illogic, forget it me old mucker. You must have something worthwhile to do than waste your time.

Good point. I must get down that tome entitled 'Teach Yourself Louroujina Language' from the shelves and do a bit more study.

[YFred]

I don't really understand this attitude of 'no hope for unification' now that Eroglu is in.

Gassman, come on mate, look at his team.

The Denktashes have been advocating partition since the 50's, they were removed from power (eventually) to give a solution a chance, and now they are back.

Do you really believe we have a reunification chance now???

I am just wondering if the selection is deliberate, to really piss off the GC side and have them walk away. I hope pres X plays them at their own game and sticks with it, but who could blame him if he did walk.

All he needs to do is site Denktash as being the main obstacle and everyone knows the rest.

Troubled times ahead me thinks.

With respect, I think you are an example of the phenomenon that Gasman has identified. Prior to the elections, you were screaming, "Who cares which jerk gets elected, they are all freakin' puppets of Ankara etc. etc.". Now you are telling us that it DOES matter who got elected.

Wrong, It doesn't matter who got elected, the team he has presented is one for partition and to cause maximum damage at the talks. Turkey will always have the last say, but with Denktash in there, given his involvement in the deep state. erdogenkan and other secret goings on, there is going to be big trouble.

personally it doesn't matter to me who the pseudo leader is because thats all he is and they are all puppets to the master.

When Tpap was president all we got from the TCs was shit how he was the leader of the EOKA, Akritas plan etc etc, now what are they going to say when they have just elected the TMT gods. I think even Turkey is going to have difficult issues with this one.

Looking at these names, yes, a cold chill runs down my spine because as you say this is a team for partition. There is nevertheless a logical inconsistency in what you are saying. One could very well argue - as Afrika newspaper has - that it is Ankara that calls the shots and it is totally irrelevant who gets elected. If you adopt that position, you have to be consistent. This team has been chosen by Eroğlu and Talat would most certainly not have appointed them. Either it makes a difference who was elected or it doesn't.

If you are trying to come to terms with Bastardo25's illogic, forget it me old mucker. You must have something worthwhile to do than waste your time.

Good point. I must get down that tome entitled 'Teach Yourself Louroujina Language' from the shelves and do a bit more study.

Now that is a worthwhile thing. If you need any assistance, I am here.
We've got another book for DT. Lurucadi for Dummies.

[Tim Drayton]

I don't really understand this attitude of 'no hope for unification' now that Eroglu is in.

Gassman, come on mate, look at his team.

The Denktashes have been advocating partition since the 50's, they were removed from power (eventually) to give a solution a chance, and now they are back.

Do you really believe we have a reunification chance now???

I am just wondering if the selection is deliberate, to really piss off the GC side and have them walk away. I hope pres X plays them at their own game and sticks with it, but who could blame him if he did walk.

All he needs to do is site Denktash as being the main obstacle and everyone knows the rest.

Troubled times ahead me thinks.

With respect, I think you are an example of the phenomenon that Gasman has identified. Prior to the elections, you were screaming, "Who cares which jerk gets elected, they are all freakin' puppets of Ankara etc. etc.". Now you are telling us that it DOES matter who got elected.

Wrong, It doesn't matter who got elected, the team he has presented is one for partition and to cause maximum damage at the talks. Turkey will always have the last say, but with Denktash in there, given his involvement in the deep state. erdogenkan and other secret goings on, there is going to be big trouble.

personally it doesn't matter to me who the pseudo leader is because thats all he is and they are all puppets to the master.

When Tpap was president all we got from the TCs was shit how he was the leader of the EOKA, Akritas plan etc etc, now what are they going to say when they have just elected the TMT gods. I think even Turkey is going to have difficult issues with this one.

Looking at these names, yes, a cold chill runs down my spine because as you say this is a team for partition. There is nevertheless a logical inconsistency in what you are saying. One could very well argue - as Afrika newspaper has - that it is Ankara that calls the shots and it is totally irrelevant who gets elected. If you adopt that position, you have to be consistent. This team has been chosen by Eroğlu and Talat would most certainly not have appointed them. Either it makes a difference who was elected or it doesn't.

If you are trying to come to terms with Bastardo25's illogic, forget it me old mucker. You must have something worthwhile to do than waste your time.

Good point. I must get down that tome entitled 'Teach Yourself Louroujina Language' from the shelves and do a bit more study.

Now that is a worthwhile thing. If you need any assistance, I am here.
We've got another book for DT. Lurucadi for Dummies.

Thank you. And may your face not be blackened while cooking she-dog souvla.

[Paphitis]

TRNC New President Eroglu ;
Negotiating team and they are: Dr. Dervis Eroglu, Rauf Denktas (Advisor of the Negotiating Team), Ata Atun, Serdar Denktas (Chief Negotiator), Ismet Kotak, Taner Etkin, Huseyin Ozgurgun, Vedat Celik and Ergun Olgun.

There we have it boys and girls!

Just cut to the chase and tell us you want permanent Partition. Then put your thinking caps on and start working out ways to achieve this as an accepted workable solution.

Denktash heh! Oh well! Who cares?

[BirKibrisli]

I am starting to feel very very very very very sorry for President X...
He doesn't deserve this mob...

[vaughanwilliams]

I know you GO boys have a different Easter and Christmas than everyone else. Do you have a different April 1st as well?
You really do have to hope this is some kind of wind-up.

[Paphitis]

I am starting to feel very very very very very sorry for President X...
He doesn't deserve this mob...

We don't particularly care!

At least Denktash is more upfront than Talat. The world knows who he is and they know his extremist agendas. If anything, the world now knows what we are dealing with. We feel sorry for you! We have survived with Denktash in the chair before, and we will endure him once more. The issue is, how costly Eroglu and Denktash will be for the TC community?

All we need to do is just sit back and listen to your proposals. You want 2 states, or agreed partition, then raise it at the next meeting. I'm certain Denktash won't be shy. But the devil is in the detail.

[humanist]

Deniz

Every week I read articles written by Denktash, and what we know so far is that he is adamant on partition. Forgive me for being pessimistic. I was prepared to give Eroglu a chance (wait and see what transpires), but Denktash , it seems will run the show. What is the point of having an advisor you will ignore? (not you personally ofcourse).

I share your sentiments Deniz: no progress for another 4 years, but at least I can say the TC's have voted.... because they want partition


I don't think Eroglu went to the elections promising anything different Confederation he said ....... big mistake if you ask me. TC's can be fully ledged EU members tas soon as they choose differently,

anyways lets wait n see

[humanist]

paphitis , good points but if what I read recently about Christofias decision not to run again there goes a lot of hard work. Unless the follower has similar values on the Cyprus problem. I doubt EU wants turkey to have access to Cyprus which is what will happen if they allowed partition..... way too close to home. They would prefer them across the water, I think.