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[Bananiot]

Another fact-observation:

In 2004, the RoC left (with the notable exception of EDI) united to elect the most reactionary right winger this place has ever known. Papadopoulos eventually turned GC's into scared, xenophobic and solution-phobic people who in their majority now prefer partition even if they don't say it.

In 2010, the north Cyprus right united to bring down Talat and elect back to power those that are supported by the Gray Wolves and all the reactionary forces in the north.

The RoC rejectionists are overjoyed with the election of Eroglu because they sense that solution may be put on hold. There is no difference really between the GC rejectionists and the TC rejectionists. Simply some were born GCs and the rest TCs.

[Get Real!]

The RoC rejectionists are overjoyed with the election of Eroglu because they sense that solution may be put on hold. There is no difference really between the GC rejectionists and the TC rejectionists. Simply some were born GCs and the rest TCs.

Why are you so eager to press on with a Turkish-run “BBF”? Or did you assume that the RoC would be running it?

[Pyrpolizer]

Another fact-observation:

In 2004, the RoC left (with the notable exception of EDI) united to elect the most reactionary right winger this place has ever known. Papadopoulos eventually turned GC's into scared, xenophobic and solution-phobic people who in their majority now prefer partition even if they don't say it.

In 2010, the north Cyprus right united to bring down Talat and elect back to power those that are supported by the Gray Wolves and all the reactionary forces in the north.

The RoC rejectionists are overjoyed with the election of Eroglu because they sense that solution may be put on hold. There is no difference really between the GC rejectionists and the TC rejectionists. Simply some were born GCs and the rest TCs.

There is a difference dear Bananiot. And that lies in the percentages of each group.

Papadopoulos was simply a stuborn man, not a partitionist. We did not elect a partitionist. Not many people would agree with what you say about him. Incompetent, stupid, and farting, yes we was, but nothing more that that. May I remind you he was the one who revived the Anan Plan?

[YFred]

Another fact-observation:

In 2004, the RoC left (with the notable exception of EDI) united to elect the most reactionary right winger this place has ever known. Papadopoulos eventually turned GC's into scared, xenophobic and solution-phobic people who in their majority now prefer partition even if they don't say it.

In 2010, the north Cyprus right united to bring down Talat and elect back to power those that are supported by the Gray Wolves and all the reactionary forces in the north.

The RoC rejectionists are overjoyed with the election of Eroglu because they sense that solution may be put on hold. There is no difference really between the GC rejectionists and the TC rejectionists. Simply some were born GCs and the rest TCs.

There is a difference dear Bananiot. And that lies in the percentages of each group.

Papadopoulos was simply a stuborn man, not a partitionist. We did not elect a partitionist. Not many people would agree with what you say about him. Incompetent, stupid, and farting, yes we was, but nothing more that that. May I remind you he was the one who revived the Anan Plan?

Yeh so he can sink it. Over here they breed game birds for the shoot. He was rather good at shooting.
FFS wake up.

[Pyrpolizer]

Another fact-observation:

In 2004, the RoC left (with the notable exception of EDI) united to elect the most reactionary right winger this place has ever known. Papadopoulos eventually turned GC's into scared, xenophobic and solution-phobic people who in their majority now prefer partition even if they don't say it.

In 2010, the north Cyprus right united to bring down Talat and elect back to power those that are supported by the Gray Wolves and all the reactionary forces in the north.

The RoC rejectionists are overjoyed with the election of Eroglu because they sense that solution may be put on hold. There is no difference really between the GC rejectionists and the TC rejectionists. Simply some were born GCs and the rest TCs.

There is a difference dear Bananiot. And that lies in the percentages of each group.

Papadopoulos was simply a stuborn man, not a partitionist. We did not elect a partitionist. Not many people would agree with what you say about him. Incompetent, stupid, and farting, yes we was, but nothing more that that. May I remind you he was the one who revived the Anan Plan?

Yeh so he can sink it. Over here they breed game birds for the shoot. He was rather good at shooting.
FFS wake up.

Over there there are so many propaganda victims who think the GCs needed Papadopoulos to say a huge OXI to the Anan Plan.

Anyway he did not do that to sink the Anan Plan.Only a super stupid person would do that. He was stupid yes but not super stupid

[georgios100]

Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks...

After reading a few pages of comments I conclude:

1. TCs & settlers are in the end people, just like everybody else on the planet. They are fed up with Talat, waiting for a solution (BBF or partition)... they want a solution... period! what ever that is! People want closure to move forward. The Cyprob is dragging too long. Hence Eroglu, a new guy with lots of promises, Talat had his chance.

2. The TC side is participating in the talks for a solution to enter the EU immediately. The partition would put the EU entry on hold for another 10-15 years. Eroglu made them think EU entry is given no matter what is the outcome of the talks (or no talks).

3. The difference in the vote was the settlers favoring Eroglu. These people are not true TCs. The true TCs are getting outnumbered as the years go by... settlers think like Turks, not Cypriots, hence Eroglu.

Both GCs & TCs must realize their political leaders are a joke. The non-solution 36 year period is heaven for them, thriving on the need for a solution. These leaders will not negotiate a solution simply to extend the survival of their own political parties and themselves. Over 35 political parties exist in the whole of Cyprus... a good "business" to be in instead of working as a plumber, electrician etc. Suit, tie, nice car, good salary, excellent pension...

Hey, I am thinking of forming a political party... next week... why not?

Georgios100

[YFred]

Another fact-observation:

In 2004, the RoC left (with the notable exception of EDI) united to elect the most reactionary right winger this place has ever known. Papadopoulos eventually turned GC's into scared, xenophobic and solution-phobic people who in their majority now prefer partition even if they don't say it.

In 2010, the north Cyprus right united to bring down Talat and elect back to power those that are supported by the Gray Wolves and all the reactionary forces in the north.

The RoC rejectionists are overjoyed with the election of Eroglu because they sense that solution may be put on hold. There is no difference really between the GC rejectionists and the TC rejectionists. Simply some were born GCs and the rest TCs.

There is a difference dear Bananiot. And that lies in the percentages of each group.

Papadopoulos was simply a stuborn man, not a partitionist. We did not elect a partitionist. Not many people would agree with what you say about him. Incompetent, stupid, and farting, yes we was, but nothing more that that. May I remind you he was the one who revived the Anan Plan?

Yeh so he can sink it. Over here they breed game birds for the shoot. He was rather good at shooting.
FFS wake up.

Over there there are so many propaganda victims who think the GCs needed Papadopoulos to say a huge OXI to the Anan Plan.

Anyway he did not do that to sink the Anan Plan.Only a super stupid person would do that. He was stupid yes but not super stupid

Super Stupid is not a bad description. He will go down in history for negotiating an agreement and then not recommending. I can't see anybody taking that off him.

[Pyrpolizer]

Anyway to make a long story short he asked the UNSG to revive it without himself even having read it. He just trusted what the previous president (klerides) told him. That;s why i say he was both naive and incompetent. After he realised what the Anan Plan really was, he almost detroyed this own people loading them the OXI and portraying his own people even the refugees as rejectionists (as Bananiot says)

[YFred]

Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks...

After reading a few pages of comments I conclude:

1. TCs & settlers are in the end people, just like everybody else on the planet. They are fed up with Talat, waiting for a solution (BBF or partition)... they want a solution... period! what ever that is! People want closure to move forward. The Cyprob is dragging too long. Hence Eroglu, a new guy with lots of promises, Talat had his chance.

2. The TC side is participating in the talks for a solution to enter the EU immediately. The partition would put the EU entry on hold for another 10-15 years. Eroglu made them think EU entry is given no matter what is the outcome of the talks (or no talks).

3. The difference in the vote was the settlers favoring Eroglu. These people are not true TCs. The true TCs are getting outnumbered as the years go by... settlers think like Turks, not Cypriots, hence Eroglu.

Both GCs & TCs must realize their political leaders are a joke. The non-solution 36 year period is heaven for them, thriving on the need for a solution. These leaders will not negotiate a solution simply to extend the survival of their own political parties and themselves. Over 35 political parties exist in the whole of Cyprus... a good "business" to be in instead of working as a plumber, electrician etc. Suit, tie, nice car, good salary, excellent pension...

Hey, I am thinking of forming a political party... next week... why not?

Georgios100

You are so way off the mark, I will only deal with just the first mistake. Eroglu is not a new guy, he was there at the begining. 1963 to be precise. Probaply the leader of TMT in Magosa, otherwise how did he get to rise in the party.
It's a bit like asking Hitler to solve the riddle of the second world war as a new comer becasue he was out of office for one term.
George you have so much to learn my friend. Stay on the forum.

[Pyrpolizer]

Has ANY of the TCs in this forum (who I think are all real TCs) voted for Eroglu?