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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:08 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)



TCs and settlers living in the Morphou and Famagusta region have most to lose in a settlement Talat is negotiating. 'Self-preservation'?
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby YFred » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:13 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)



TCs and settlers living in the Morphou and Famagusta region have most to lose in a settlement Talat is negotiating. 'Self-preservation'?

I don't buy that Deniz. Selfishness is not part of it. They voted yes last time.
Like me, they are sick to death of negotiating and not even knowing what the other side wants, because the other side will not show their hand in case they get an argument back.
Is that clear as mud?
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:20 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)



TCs and settlers living in the Morphou and Famagusta region have most to lose in a settlement Talat is negotiating. 'Self-preservation'?

I don't buy that Deniz. Selfishness is not part of it. They voted yes last time.
Like me, they are sick to death of negotiating and not even knowing what the other side wants, because the other side will not show their hand in case they get an argument back.
Is that clear as mud?



Last time? How long ago was that? Since then the return of Morphou has become a major issue down south. Why were the Omorphoians/Omorphoiotes demonstrating against Omorphou being returned to its legal owners? Still, I could be wrong.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby DTA » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:24 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)



TCs and settlers living in the Morphou and Famagusta region have most to lose in a settlement Talat is negotiating. 'Self-preservation'?

I don't buy that Deniz. Selfishness is not part of it. They voted yes last time.
Like me, they are sick to death of negotiating and not even knowing what the other side wants, because the other side will not show their hand in case they get an argument back.
Is that clear as mud?



Last time? How long ago was that? Since then the return of Morphou has become a major issue down south. Why were the Omorphoians/Omorphoiotes demonstrating against Omorphou being returned to its legal owners? Still, I could be wrong.


Arent the majority of present day residence in Morfou TCs who were kicked out of their land in the south prior to '74, not sure if this is true but it is what I have been told.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby YFred » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:27 pm

DTA wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)



TCs and settlers living in the Morphou and Famagusta region have most to lose in a settlement Talat is negotiating. 'Self-preservation'?

I don't buy that Deniz. Selfishness is not part of it. They voted yes last time.
Like me, they are sick to death of negotiating and not even knowing what the other side wants, because the other side will not show their hand in case they get an argument back.
Is that clear as mud?



Last time? How long ago was that? Since then the return of Morphou has become a major issue down south. Why were the Omorphoians/Omorphoiotes demonstrating against Omorphou being returned to its legal owners? Still, I could be wrong.


Arent the majority of present day residence in Morfou TCs who were kicked out of their land in the south prior to '74, not sure if this is true but it is what I have been told.

Yes they are and yes they voted yes last time despite that.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:28 pm

DTA wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)



TCs and settlers living in the Morphou and Famagusta region have most to lose in a settlement Talat is negotiating. 'Self-preservation'?

I don't buy that Deniz. Selfishness is not part of it. They voted yes last time.
Like me, they are sick to death of negotiating and not even knowing what the other side wants, because the other side will not show their hand in case they get an argument back.
Is that clear as mud?



Last time? How long ago was that? Since then the return of Morphou has become a major issue down south. Why were the Omorphoians/Omorphoiotes demonstrating against Omorphou being returned to its legal owners? Still, I could be wrong.


Arent the majority of present day residence in Morfou TCs who were kicked out of their land in the south prior to '74, not sure if this is true but it is what I have been told.



Thats more reason why they want to hang on. I did say TC's and settlers.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby karma » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:38 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)


easy to reply !
in 2004 EU was a hope and a dream... today it is a useless Christian club, a nightmare :lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:43 pm

It amazes me that some incomplete individuals (incomplete is the only explanation I can find for such little mental capacity) are harping on about GC negotiations.

1) In these 2 years the GC side offered up Rotating Presidency
2) In these 2 years the GC side offered up 50,000 settlers to remain

1) In these 2 years the TC demanded Split FIR's
2) In these 2 years the TC demanded citizenship for 70million Turks
3) In these 2 years the TC demanded a Presidential council and moved away from rotating presidency (only to begrudgingly return to it with a great round of applause for their concession :roll: )
4) In these 2 years the TC side has repeatedly stated that no land will be given up

We have had a liberal GC President offering up everything he could in order to overcome the stalemate. He did so with great animosity from most political parties. The TC side has decided to reward this behaviour with the election of a TMT officer that demands separate states.

And then you have these "incomplete" individuals on the forum blaming the GC side for not "knowing what they want".

What does the TC side want? 2 separate states or a BBF? What does eroglu want? How embarassed do TC's feel everytime Yfred opens his mouth on this forum? (that last one was just bugging me and I had to know)
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby B25 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:48 pm

karma wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)


easy to reply !
in 2004 EU was a hope and a dream... today it is a useless Christian club, a nightmare :lol:


Yes you would say that, being shacked up with a moslem!
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2010 ???

Postby karma » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:52 pm

B25 wrote:
karma wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Time for us all to put on our thinking caps...

In 2004 Turkish Cypriots voted by an overwhelming majority of 65% FOR a solution to reunite Cyprus...In 2010 they voted,albeit by a slim majority,FOR a President who is well known for his wish for a 2 state solution...So,what happened,or what did not happen,during the ensuing 6 years to bring about such a different result??? Please spend at least a couple of minutes seriously pondering this issue before putting fingers to keyboard...Thanks... 8)


easy to reply !
in 2004 EU was a hope and a dream... today it is a useless Christian club, a nightmare :lol:


Yes you would say that, being shacked up with a moslem!


well I am Muslim, U dumbo :lol: :lol:
any problem with that ??
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