Cyprus-Forum.com

[YFred]

Makes sense...

Sounds like lavabo....i.e: sink......

Thank's T_C, while we have their attention, we can teach them a lot more about cyprus culture.

[YFred]

Regarding refugees, I guess the question must then be raised pyrpo, how's it working out for them as a whole 6 years on and for the forseable future? Pretty big gamble, and hey, don't ask a lawyer to advise you when his fees are at stake, there may be an element of self interest - but call me cynical.

It was not always a lawyer but someone well educated 99% of the times it was a co-villager, most propably half the villagers were his relatives, and there was absolutely no fee, just explanation of what the Anan Plan. A hope you understand what an association of refugees from say Assia village is...

Regarding your question as to how is it working now 6 years after, we feel we are better off than what we would be with the Anan Plan.

Then it seems to me the problem is solved.

[Pyrpolizer]

Of course haven't you heard the Anan Plan is dead and burried?

[Pyrpolizer]

Makes sense...

Sounds like lavabo....i.e: sink......

Thank's T_C, while we have their attention, we can teach them a lot more about cyprus culture.

The Linobambakos said "WE" and "THEM". Now who is we and who is them only God knows

[YFred]

Of course haven't you heard the Anan Plan is dead and burried?

No matter what happens, any plan in the future will not deviate from any of the plans in the past. The sooner we realise that the sooner we'll get to some sort fo peace to be able to finally put one foot in front of the other. And if we are really clever, we may even be able to put the second foot forward while the first one is in its new place without falling over.

[Acikgoz]

Regarding refugees, I guess the question must then be raised pyrpo, how's it working out for them as a whole 6 years on and for the forseable future? Pretty big gamble, and hey, don't ask a lawyer to advise you when his fees are at stake, there may be an element of self interest - but call me cynical.

It was not always a lawyer but someone well educated 99% of the times it was a co-villager, most propably half the villagers were his relatives, and there was absolutely no fee, just explanation of what the Anan Plan. A hope you understand what an association of refugees from say Assia village is...

Regarding your question as to how is it working now 6 years after, we feel we are better off than what we would be with the Anan Plan.

I'd venture not so good for the refugees specifically which was my point - GCs on the whole may feel better about the situation. I focused on the refugees given it is the most aggressive point made on this forum, justifiably, as they have had a tangible removed from their possession - not the political pariahs of partisan demands. If I am wrong on this front, and the refugees see themselves better off as you put it, then it really turns the issues we find ourselves facing on its head, the political standing of the RoC thus wholly becoming the dominant issue and property return secondary.

Can you therefore clarify further if you feel you have enough understanding of the majority view of the refugees.

[YFred]

Makes sense...

Sounds like lavabo....i.e: sink......

Thank's T_C, while we have their attention, we can teach them a lot more about cyprus culture.

The Linobambakos said "WE" and "THEM". Now who is we and who is them only God knows

Bgos ine o Linobambakos reh gumbare?

The real Cypriots(We) and the rest(Them)?

[Pyrpolizer]

First of all I would like to congratulate Kikapu for his excellent and detailed post and thank him for the time spent to write it.
Gongrats also to Bir, as his post was also very good and explanatory.
Such posts help raise the level of this forum, which unfortunately very often is down to minus zero

1 minor corrections if I may: The Anan plan was a gift before the US offered the 20 billion to Turkey for her airspace. The 20b were rejected but... the Anan plan stayed.
The AP first appeared in 2002 (i think) and at that time the media dealt with it for about 1 week just to conclude it was a terrible plan. Klerides in his efforts to push Denktash into the corner once again, said he would accept is as a BASIS for negotiations.Denktash rejected it and we all breathed in releif.

How in the end that almost totally unacceptable plan, became worse and served to us as THE SOLUTION, is known to everybody, no need to repeat.

Unfortunately not only Koffi Anan but the whole of the UN is not what it used to be.. Just 6 years ago we had the genocide in Rwanda (a neighbouring country to Koffi's Country) and koffi and the UN did not even move their little finger. 1 million black people murdered in cold blood , half the population of the Tutsi minority (it was 20% now only 10%).

[Pyrpolizer]

Of course haven't you heard the Anan Plan is dead and burried?

No matter what happens, any plan in the future will not deviate from any of the plans in the past. The sooner we realise that the sooner we'll get to some sort fo peace to be able to finally put one foot in front of the other. And if we are really clever, we may even be able to put the second foot forward while the first one is in its new place without falling over.

We already learned our lesson Yfred: Ask the foreigners to write a plan for us, and they will sell us at the highest bidder. NO THERE WON'T BE ANY PLAN FROM FOREIGNERS EVER AGAIN.

And i can assure you what Christofias and Talat have agreed so far, was much much different than the Anan Plan.

[Acikgoz]

the settlers were now in the position to screw the TCs Royally with their 2:1 advantage over them.

Hah, "excellent and detailed post" - he has no reliable reference for this quantitative statement. He'll just keep throwing the mud, however the only thing that is getting more dirty are his hands.

Talk about compromising your integrity by association with such an ignoramus Pyrpo.