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[BirKibrisli]

i bet not one mainland turk voted for talat

I disagree with you there. Talat, as a left-winger, appeals to the socially disadvantaged and lower income groups, and many migrants from Turkey are poor.

When will some people understand how politics works?
It is the same in every country.
There is left and there is right and sometimes a piggy in the middle.

I read reports in the TC press (and not only in Afrika!) that some voters have been offered (and some given) money,as little as 50 TL,to vote for Eroglu...I assume they would be these poor settlers Tim is talking about...At least one has apparently made an official complaint to the police...

[T_C]

Well there was a poll on Facebook and even on there Eroglu was MILES ahead of Talat with way over 6000 votes...Talat had little over 2000...and those were mainly TCs voting in that poll...

[YFred]

i bet not one mainland turk voted for talat

I disagree with you there. Talat, as a left-winger, appeals to the socially disadvantaged and lower income groups, and many migrants from Turkey are poor.

When will some people understand how politics works?
It is the same in every country.
There is left and there is right and sometimes a piggy in the middle.

I read reports in the TC press (and not only in Afrika!) that some voters have been offered (and some given) money,as little as 50 TL,to vote for Eroglu...I assume they would be these poor settlers Tim is talking about...At least one has apparently made an official complaint to the police...

That happens every time. The real problem is more serious. They will now remove Talat supporters from work and place their own where ever possible. For any new vacancies Talat supporters will not even get a sniff.
At least with the bribe, unless they hand over their vote, they can still vote as they wish at the ballot box.

By the way it is not just settlers original TCs are just as easily bribed but their price would be in hundreds of pounds. They are not as cheap.

[Tim Drayton]

i bet not one mainland turk voted for talat

I disagree with you there. Talat, as a left-winger, appeals to the socially disadvantaged and lower income groups, and many migrants from Turkey are poor.

When will some people understand how politics works?
It is the same in every country.
There is left and there is right and sometimes a piggy in the middle.

I read reports in the TC press (and not only in Afrika!) that some voters have been offered (and some given) money,as little as 50 TL,to vote for Eroglu...I assume they would be these poor settlers Tim is talking about...At least one has apparently made an official complaint to the police...

Well, some time ago a Turkish Cypriot academic conducted a study into the voting patterns displayed by Turkish Cypriot voters as opposed to settlers. Given that official figures do not reveal the ethnic identity of voters, he took the voting figures for villages with a predominantly Turkish Cypriot population and compared these with those for villages predominantly inhabited by settlers. The results of this study - maybe I can track it down somewhere - seriously question the view that Denktash was kept in power by settler votes. He showed that migrants from Turkey were more likely to vote for left wing parties compared to Turkish Cypriots.

[halil]

i bet not one mainland turk voted for talat

I disagree with you there. Talat, as a left-winger, appeals to the socially disadvantaged and lower income groups, and many migrants from Turkey are poor.

When will some people understand how politics works?
It is the same in every country.
There is left and there is right and sometimes a piggy in the middle.

I read reports in the TC press (and not only in Afrika!) that some voters have been offered (and some given) money,as little as 50 TL,to vote for Eroglu...I assume they would be these poor settlers Tim is talking about...At least one has apparently made an official complaint to the police...

Well, some time ago a Turkish Cypriot academic conducted a study into the voting patterns displayed by Turkish Cypriot voters as opposed to settlers. Given that official figures do not reveal the ethnic identity of voters, he took the voting figures for villages with a predominantly Turkish Cypriot population and compared these with those for villages predominantly inhabited by settlers. The results of this study - maybe I can track it down somewhere - seriously question the view that Denktash was kept in power by settler votes. He showed that migrants from Turkey were more likely to vote for left wing parties compared to Turkish Cypriots.

Tim in our area there is no settlers lives and always right wing parties gets more than 75% of the votes. we, the left supporters were always low.

may be we must make at least 10 kids each to come close to their votes.

most of them has 2 like us and always they lead.

[YFred]

i bet not one mainland turk voted for talat

I disagree with you there. Talat, as a left-winger, appeals to the socially disadvantaged and lower income groups, and many migrants from Turkey are poor.

When will some people understand how politics works?
It is the same in every country.
There is left and there is right and sometimes a piggy in the middle.

I read reports in the TC press (and not only in Afrika!) that some voters have been offered (and some given) money,as little as 50 TL,to vote for Eroglu...I assume they would be these poor settlers Tim is talking about...At least one has apparently made an official complaint to the police...

Well, some time ago a Turkish Cypriot academic conducted a study into the voting patterns displayed by Turkish Cypriot voters as opposed to settlers. Given that official figures do not reveal the ethnic identity of voters, he took the voting figures for villages with a predominantly Turkish Cypriot population and compared these with those for villages predominantly inhabited by settlers. The results of this study - maybe I can track it down somewhere - seriously question the view that Denktash was kept in power by settler votes. He showed that migrants from Turkey were more likely to vote for left wing parties compared to Turkish
Cypriots.

I came to that conclusion just driving through the so called settler villages and reading the graffiti on the walls.
They used to bring them in ship loads to vote and go back. The settlers are more TC than TCs. Where's Kickapoo when you need him. Bugger.

[DT.]

i bet not one mainland turk voted for talat

I disagree with you there. Talat, as a left-winger, appeals to the socially disadvantaged and lower income groups, and many migrants from Turkey are poor.

When will some people understand how politics works?
It is the same in every country.
There is left and there is right and sometimes a piggy in the middle.

I read reports in the TC press (and not only in Afrika!) that some voters have been offered (and some given) money,as little as 50 TL,to vote for Eroglu...I assume they would be these poor settlers Tim is talking about...At least one has apparently made an official complaint to the police...

Well, some time ago a Turkish Cypriot academic conducted a study into the voting patterns displayed by Turkish Cypriot voters as opposed to settlers. Given that official figures do not reveal the ethnic identity of voters, he took the voting figures for villages with a predominantly Turkish Cypriot population and compared these with those for villages predominantly inhabited by settlers. The results of this study - maybe I can track it down somewhere - seriously question the view that Denktash was kept in power by settler votes. He showed that migrants from Turkey were more likely to vote for left wing parties compared to Turkish Cypriots.

I never bought this settlers vote for the hardliners myth. We usually make the mistake of referring to the illegal settlers as one large homogeneous body that votes and acts in the same way. Once Turkey bring these people over, then there's pretty much nothing it can do to keep them in line apart from threatening to cut financial aid in key areas these guys depend on.

I'd say the way GC concessions have hit skid row with regards to settlers then they are probably the biggest supporters of a solution on the island right now. Their legalisation first as Cypriot citizens and secondly as EU citizens should make them willing to work for a solution.

As far as who the latest fax director in the occupied areas is right now, it hardly makes a difference. Depending on which power centre in Turkey prevails, that'll be the origins of the fax instructions your man in Cyprus will be receiving.

Eroglu has left the tc position looking significantly weak in international fora, especially when the President of the republic is looking more and more eager to try out the 5 new English words he's learning every week.

Anyway, life goes on in the plantation. The occupied areas have a new fax director and the govt areas are basking in the sunlight of the comrade.

With 25 Celsius, I say mix yourself up a mojito and drink to Cuba.