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[YFred]

Wallace how is it that your claim the settlers do Turkeys bidding yet they voted for Eroğlu but Turkey wanted and openly supported Talat?

Everybody has to find somebody to blame VP. They will not see the last 5 years they wasted. 14 months spent on governance? If it wasn't so serious it would be funny.

[Viewpoint]

Wallace how is it that your claim the settlers do Turkeys bidding yet they voted for Eroğlu but Turkey wanted and openly supported Talat?

Everybody has to find somebody to blame VP. They will not see the last 5 years they wasted. 14 months spent on governance? If it wasn't so serious it would be funny.

The TC people have spoken time to move on and forget trying to agree a solution with GCs.

[YFred]

Wallace how is it that your claim the settlers do Turkeys bidding yet they voted for Eroğlu but Turkey wanted and openly supported Talat?

Everybody has to find somebody to blame VP. They will not see the last 5 years they wasted. 14 months spent on governance? If it wasn't so serious it would be funny.

The TC people have spoken time to move on and forget trying to agree a solution with GCs.

I think you'll find that it is now innevitable. Let us see what the eu will say about this. What ever else happens, unification will not be one of them.

[wallace]

DERVIS EROGLU, who supports Turkish Cypriot independence, claimed victory in the north's 'presidential' election on Sunday.
Eroglu won more than 50 percent of the vote to avoid a run-off and beat incumbent Mehmet Ali Talat, according to preliminiary results.
Eroglu, who wants more autonomy for each community in any peace settlement, rules out concessions key to Greek Cypriots in reunification talks.
Any stalemate on Cyprus will further complicate Turkey's ambitions to join the EU.

Diplomats have said an Eroglu victory could slow the pace of U.N.-backed reunification talks
Talat has led the talks from the Turkish Cypriot side since they began in 2008.
Eroglu, now the 'prime minister' in the north has said he will continue to negotiate, but his advertised positions are not acceptable to Greek Cypriots.
"Talks will continue because I want peace more than those who say that I don't," Eroglu told supporters at a rally after preliminary results indicated he had won.
"I seek a solution based on the realities of the island and a solution that all of us can live with."
Eroglu wants more independence for each community in any peace settlement, a stance at odds with the basis of talks until now that the island should be a federation of two zones with an effective central government. He has also ruled out any Greek Cypriot return to land now held by Turks.
The conflict not only hampers Turkey's bid to join the EU, but also complicates decision making on defence issues between the EU and NATO, of which Turkey is a member.

That's all very well, but where is my friend to explain it all to us. He has done a houdini act.

Nobody has to explain it to you my dear Yfred......you know and the rest of the world knows that the settlers have spoken today. You are a minority in your own so called country and all of us are fucked now. We'll have to wait another 5 years untill someone with brains comes in to find a deacent solution. This prick is not going to do it for anybody. Let's see how far this clown can take you

I don't think so. The seperation will happen before then. It's over. There is no more time left.

What seperation are you talking about? The world will not accept a 2 state solution. The island is to small for that. Recognition is not an option. If it was it would have happened long time ago. Just another 5 years listening to shit that the average person doesn't want to hear. Just be honest.....it's the settlers that have spoken today. The Tc community that everybody speaks of on this forum will not exist anymore. A sad day in history today.

Sad day indeed. Don't blame the settlers.
Your Muhtar X could not see to make a joint statement to on items agreed so far. Let's not kid ourselves. It is over. Muhtar X will not win next time for the same reason because Eroglu will do the same.
It is over. Cyprus will be no longer. It is pointless talking about unification now. Especially if Erdogan loses the next election which I am convinced he will lose for the same reason.

Your right....let's not kid ourselfs. Let's not start a blame game here. The items agreed on so far Talat used in his campaign. Muhtar X will not leave the table and regarding Erdogan losing the next elections I'm not so sure. Unification is not an option anymore due to the election of this clown. I'm hoping for some pressure from Turkey to keep this idiot in line with what was agreed the last couple of years. Again.....a sad day for the history of Cyprus because it can be done.

[wallace]

Wallace how is it that your claim the settlers do Turkeys bidding yet they voted for Eroğlu but Turkey wanted and openly supported Talat?

Can you also expalin why the island is to small for division, we are divided and there are many example of states much smaller than ours doing very well.

The settlers are a majority in YOUR country and Turkey never openly supported Talat. Provide me with evidence that Turkey openly supported Talat. Which states are you talking about?

[YFred]

DERVIS EROGLU, who supports Turkish Cypriot independence, claimed victory in the north's 'presidential' election on Sunday.
Eroglu won more than 50 percent of the vote to avoid a run-off and beat incumbent Mehmet Ali Talat, according to preliminiary results.
Eroglu, who wants more autonomy for each community in any peace settlement, rules out concessions key to Greek Cypriots in reunification talks.
Any stalemate on Cyprus will further complicate Turkey's ambitions to join the EU.

Diplomats have said an Eroglu victory could slow the pace of U.N.-backed reunification talks
Talat has led the talks from the Turkish Cypriot side since they began in 2008.
Eroglu, now the 'prime minister' in the north has said he will continue to negotiate, but his advertised positions are not acceptable to Greek Cypriots.
"Talks will continue because I want peace more than those who say that I don't," Eroglu told supporters at a rally after preliminary results indicated he had won.
"I seek a solution based on the realities of the island and a solution that all of us can live with."
Eroglu wants more independence for each community in any peace settlement, a stance at odds with the basis of talks until now that the island should be a federation of two zones with an effective central government. He has also ruled out any Greek Cypriot return to land now held by Turks.
The conflict not only hampers Turkey's bid to join the EU, but also complicates decision making on defence issues between the EU and NATO, of which Turkey is a member.

That's all very well, but where is my friend to explain it all to us. He has done a houdini act.

Nobody has to explain it to you my dear Yfred......you know and the rest of the world knows that the settlers have spoken today. You are a minority in your own so called country and all of us are fucked now. We'll have to wait another 5 years untill someone with brains comes in to find a deacent solution. This prick is not going to do it for anybody. Let's see how far this clown can take you

I don't think so. The seperation will happen before then. It's over. There is no more time left.

What seperation are you talking about? The world will not accept a 2 state solution. The island is to small for that. Recognition is not an option. If it was it would have happened long time ago. Just another 5 years listening to shit that the average person doesn't want to hear. Just be honest.....it's the settlers that have spoken today. The Tc community that everybody speaks of on this forum will not exist anymore. A sad day in history today.

Sad day indeed. Don't blame the settlers.
Your Muhtar X could not see to make a joint statement to on items agreed so far. Let's not kid ourselves. It is over. Muhtar X will not win next time for the same reason because Eroglu will do the same.
It is over. Cyprus will be no longer. It is pointless talking about unification now. Especially if Erdogan loses the next election which I am convinced he will lose for the same reason.

Your right....let's not kid ourselfs. Let's not start a blame game here. The items agreed on so far Talat used in his campaign. Muhtar X will not leave the table and regarding Erdogan losing the next elections I'm not so sure. Unification is not an option anymore due to the election of this clown. I'm hoping for some pressure from Turkey to keep this idiot in line with what was agreed the last couple of years. Again.....a sad day for the history of Cyprus because it can be done.

It was possible between the two leaders we had. It is now impossible. In anycase 5 years down the line the problem is even bigger than it was today. I just can't see it any more. It will end up as two states with or without the permission of the roc.

[runaway]

Just heard the news. Hayırlı olsun and bye bye to rums

[wallace]

DERVIS EROGLU, who supports Turkish Cypriot independence, claimed victory in the north's 'presidential' election on Sunday.
Eroglu won more than 50 percent of the vote to avoid a run-off and beat incumbent Mehmet Ali Talat, according to preliminiary results.
Eroglu, who wants more autonomy for each community in any peace settlement, rules out concessions key to Greek Cypriots in reunification talks.
Any stalemate on Cyprus will further complicate Turkey's ambitions to join the EU.

Diplomats have said an Eroglu victory could slow the pace of U.N.-backed reunification talks
Talat has led the talks from the Turkish Cypriot side since they began in 2008.
Eroglu, now the 'prime minister' in the north has said he will continue to negotiate, but his advertised positions are not acceptable to Greek Cypriots.
"Talks will continue because I want peace more than those who say that I don't," Eroglu told supporters at a rally after preliminary results indicated he had won.
"I seek a solution based on the realities of the island and a solution that all of us can live with."
Eroglu wants more independence for each community in any peace settlement, a stance at odds with the basis of talks until now that the island should be a federation of two zones with an effective central government. He has also ruled out any Greek Cypriot return to land now held by Turks.
The conflict not only hampers Turkey's bid to join the EU, but also complicates decision making on defence issues between the EU and NATO, of which Turkey is a member.

That's all very well, but where is my friend to explain it all to us. He has done a houdini act.

Nobody has to explain it to you my dear Yfred......you know and the rest of the world knows that the settlers have spoken today. You are a minority in your own so called country and all of us are fucked now. We'll have to wait another 5 years untill someone with brains comes in to find a deacent solution. This prick is not going to do it for anybody. Let's see how far this clown can take you

I don't think so. The seperation will happen before then. It's over. There is no more time left.

What seperation are you talking about? The world will not accept a 2 state solution. The island is to small for that. Recognition is not an option. If it was it would have happened long time ago. Just another 5 years listening to shit that the average person doesn't want to hear. Just be honest.....it's the settlers that have spoken today. The Tc community that everybody speaks of on this forum will not exist anymore. A sad day in history today.

Sad day indeed. Don't blame the settlers.
Your Muhtar X could not see to make a joint statement to on items agreed so far. Let's not kid ourselves. It is over. Muhtar X will not win next time for the same reason because Eroglu will do the same.
It is over. Cyprus will be no longer. It is pointless talking about unification now. Especially if Erdogan loses the next election which I am convinced he will lose for the same reason.

Your right....let's not kid ourselfs. Let's not start a blame game here. The items agreed on so far Talat used in his campaign. Muhtar X will not leave the table and regarding Erdogan losing the next elections I'm not so sure. Unification is not an option anymore due to the election of this clown. I'm hoping for some pressure from Turkey to keep this idiot in line with what was agreed the last couple of years. Again.....a sad day for the history of Cyprus because it can be done.

It was possible between the two leaders we had. It is now impossible. In anycase 5 years down the line the problem is even bigger than it was today. I just can't see it any more. It will end up as two states with or without the permission of the roc.

You know and I know it will never end up as 2 states. The international community and the EU will not allow it to end up in 2 states.....no ROC permission needed here. Just another 5 years down the drain...that's what will happen.

[Lit]

DERVIS EROGLU, who supports Turkish Cypriot independence, claimed victory in the north's 'presidential' election on Sunday.
Eroglu won more than 50 percent of the vote to avoid a run-off and beat incumbent Mehmet Ali Talat, according to preliminiary results.
Eroglu, who wants more autonomy for each community in any peace settlement, rules out concessions key to Greek Cypriots in reunification talks.
Any stalemate on Cyprus will further complicate Turkey's ambitions to join the EU.

Diplomats have said an Eroglu victory could slow the pace of U.N.-backed reunification talks
Talat has led the talks from the Turkish Cypriot side since they began in 2008.
Eroglu, now the 'prime minister' in the north has said he will continue to negotiate, but his advertised positions are not acceptable to Greek Cypriots.
"Talks will continue because I want peace more than those who say that I don't," Eroglu told supporters at a rally after preliminary results indicated he had won.
"I seek a solution based on the realities of the island and a solution that all of us can live with."
Eroglu wants more independence for each community in any peace settlement, a stance at odds with the basis of talks until now that the island should be a federation of two zones with an effective central government. He has also ruled out any Greek Cypriot return to land now held by Turks.
The conflict not only hampers Turkey's bid to join the EU, but also complicates decision making on defence issues between the EU and NATO, of which Turkey is a member.

That's all very well, but where is my friend to explain it all to us. He has done a houdini act.

Nobody has to explain it to you my dear Yfred......you know and the rest of the world knows that the settlers have spoken today. You are a minority in your own so called country and all of us are fucked now. We'll have to wait another 5 years untill someone with brains comes in to find a deacent solution. This prick is not going to do it for anybody. Let's see how far this clown can take you

I don't think so. The seperation will happen before then. It's over. There is no more time left.

What seperation are you talking about? The world will not accept a 2 state solution. The island is to small for that. Recognition is not an option. If it was it would have happened long time ago. Just another 5 years listening to shit that the average person doesn't want to hear. Just be honest.....it's the settlers that have spoken today. The Tc community that everybody speaks of on this forum will not exist anymore. A sad day in history today.

Sad day indeed. Don't blame the settlers.
Your Muhtar X could not see to make a joint statement to on items agreed so far. Let's not kid ourselves. It is over. Muhtar X will not win next time for the same reason because Eroglu will do the same.
It is over. Cyprus will be no longer. It is pointless talking about unification now. Especially if Erdogan loses the next election which I am convinced he will lose for the same reason.

Your right....let's not kid ourselfs. Let's not start a blame game here. The items agreed on so far Talat used in his campaign. Muhtar X will not leave the table and regarding Erdogan losing the next elections I'm not so sure. Unification is not an option anymore due to the election of this clown. I'm hoping for some pressure from Turkey to keep this idiot in line with what was agreed the last couple of years. Again.....a sad day for the history of Cyprus because it can be done.

It was possible between the two leaders we had. It is now impossible. In anycase 5 years down the line the problem is even bigger than it was today. I just can't see it any more. It will end up as two states with or without the permission of the roc.

No twit. You can not have two states without the permission of the RoC. Aint going to happen. Thats another prediction and you can quote me...LOL

[YFred]

DERVIS EROGLU, who supports Turkish Cypriot independence, claimed victory in the north's 'presidential' election on Sunday.
Eroglu won more than 50 percent of the vote to avoid a run-off and beat incumbent Mehmet Ali Talat, according to preliminiary results.
Eroglu, who wants more autonomy for each community in any peace settlement, rules out concessions key to Greek Cypriots in reunification talks.
Any stalemate on Cyprus will further complicate Turkey's ambitions to join the EU.

Diplomats have said an Eroglu victory could slow the pace of U.N.-backed reunification talks
Talat has led the talks from the Turkish Cypriot side since they began in 2008.
Eroglu, now the 'prime minister' in the north has said he will continue to negotiate, but his advertised positions are not acceptable to Greek Cypriots.
"Talks will continue because I want peace more than those who say that I don't," Eroglu told supporters at a rally after preliminary results indicated he had won.
"I seek a solution based on the realities of the island and a solution that all of us can live with."
Eroglu wants more independence for each community in any peace settlement, a stance at odds with the basis of talks until now that the island should be a federation of two zones with an effective central government. He has also ruled out any Greek Cypriot return to land now held by Turks.
The conflict not only hampers Turkey's bid to join the EU, but also complicates decision making on defence issues between the EU and NATO, of which Turkey is a member.

That's all very well, but where is my friend to explain it all to us. He has done a houdini act.

Nobody has to explain it to you my dear Yfred......you know and the rest of the world knows that the settlers have spoken today. You are a minority in your own so called country and all of us are fucked now. We'll have to wait another 5 years untill someone with brains comes in to find a deacent solution. This prick is not going to do it for anybody. Let's see how far this clown can take you

I don't think so. The seperation will happen before then. It's over. There is no more time left.

What seperation are you talking about? The world will not accept a 2 state solution. The island is to small for that. Recognition is not an option. If it was it would have happened long time ago. Just another 5 years listening to shit that the average person doesn't want to hear. Just be honest.....it's the settlers that have spoken today. The Tc community that everybody speaks of on this forum will not exist anymore. A sad day in history today.

Sad day indeed. Don't blame the settlers.
Your Muhtar X could not see to make a joint statement to on items agreed so far. Let's not kid ourselves. It is over. Muhtar X will not win next time for the same reason because Eroglu will do the same.
It is over. Cyprus will be no longer. It is pointless talking about unification now. Especially if Erdogan loses the next election which I am convinced he will lose for the same reason.

Your right....let's not kid ourselfs. Let's not start a blame game here. The items agreed on so far Talat used in his campaign. Muhtar X will not leave the table and regarding Erdogan losing the next elections I'm not so sure. Unification is not an option anymore due to the election of this clown. I'm hoping for some pressure from Turkey to keep this idiot in line with what was agreed the last couple of years. Again.....a sad day for the history of Cyprus because it can be done.

It was possible between the two leaders we had. It is now impossible. In anycase 5 years down the line the problem is even bigger than it was today. I just can't see it any more. It will end up as two states with or without the permission of the roc.

No twit. You can not have two states without the permission of the RoC. Aint going to happen. Thats another prediction and you can quote me...LOL

Watch it happen and weep then asshole.