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New President of TRNC is Dr.Dervish EROGLU

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:52 pm

Kifeas wrote:
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Kifeas wrote:Such a proud Turkish nationalist Eroglou is, that in all the 70 years of his life he found it a complete nuisance to bother learning more than a few words of English. After all, Turkish is the mother of all languages, and even as a doctor, for him is totally unnecessary to speak any other language since he can follow all the medical bibliography and scientific discoveries of this planet in his own native language. After all, that is why he is also one of the most well trained doctor this part of the world has ever produced.

You must be very happy today.


No, but I am trying to explain to you what a perfect choice your community has just made.

I think you'll find it is a two fingers job towards the talks and their lack of progress. Let us see how the eu interprets the events and the next move they make.
It seems they may have lost TRNC but are they aware that they may also lose Erdogan?
And then what?
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:54 pm

YFred wrote:
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Kifeas wrote:Such a proud Turkish nationalist Eroglou is, that in all the 70 years of his life he found it a complete nuisance to bother learning more than a few words of English. After all, Turkish is the mother of all languages, and even as a doctor, for him is totally unnecessary to speak any other language since he can follow all the medical bibliography and scientific discoveries of this planet in his own native language. After all, that is why he is also one of the most well trained doctor this part of the world has ever produced.

You must be very happy today.


No, but I am trying to explain to you what a perfect choice your community has just made.

I think you'll find it is a two fingers job towards the talks and their lack of progress. Let us see how the eu interprets the events and the next move they make.
It seems they may have lost TRNC but are they aware that they may also lose Erdogan?
And then what?


If he does that, it will only be two fingers in Turkey's and the TC's asses that he will dig.
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:56 pm

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Kifeas wrote:Eroglou said he wants to clarify with Christofias if the term "constituent" states Talat agreed with him, means "founding" states instead, because that is how it is translated in Turkish. Of course, Christofias will give him a Turkish language lesson, and explain to him that even though the language being used in the negotiations is one completely unknown to him, "constituent" states is properly translated as "üye devletler" or "birleşen," and not as ..."kurucu."

You must mean birleşen. Why do they have translators for.
What is this with his language?
You dealt with the lamb now deal with the wolf.


Actually you probably wanted to say that now that we have learned how to deal with the wolf, it shouldn't be very difficult to deal with the lamb from now on.

That’s very funny, so Eroglu is the lamb and Talat was the wolf? Interesting take but totally wrong. Wishful thinking on your part.
He will actually take away what Talat gave. He will go back to the begining. He learns well, he learnt it from your yero Muhtaro X.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:58 pm

DERVIS EROGLU, who supports Turkish Cypriot independence, claimed victory in the north's 'presidential' election on Sunday.
Eroglu won more than 50 percent of the vote to avoid a run-off and beat incumbent Mehmet Ali Talat, according to preliminiary results.
Eroglu, who wants more autonomy for each community in any peace settlement, rules out concessions key to Greek Cypriots in reunification talks.
Any stalemate on Cyprus will further complicate Turkey's ambitions to join the EU.

Diplomats have said an Eroglu victory could slow the pace of U.N.-backed reunification talks
Talat has led the talks from the Turkish Cypriot side since they began in 2008.
Eroglu, now the 'prime minister' in the north has said he will continue to negotiate, but his advertised positions are not acceptable to Greek Cypriots.
"Talks will continue because I want peace more than those who say that I don't," Eroglu told supporters at a rally after preliminary results indicated he had won.
"I seek a solution based on the realities of the island and a solution that all of us can live with."
Eroglu wants more independence for each community in any peace settlement, a stance at odds with the basis of talks until now that the island should be a federation of two zones with an effective central government. He has also ruled out any Greek Cypriot return to land now held by Turks.
The conflict not only hampers Turkey's bid to join the EU, but also complicates decision making on defence issues between the EU and NATO, of which Turkey is a member.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:58 pm

YFred wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Eroglou said he wants to clarify with Christofias if the term "constituent" states Talat agreed with him, means "founding" states instead, because that is how it is translated in Turkish. Of course, Christofias will give him a Turkish language lesson, and explain to him that even though the language being used in the negotiations is one completely unknown to him, "constituent" states is properly translated as "üye devletler" or "birleşen," and not as ..."kurucu."

You must mean birleşen. Why do they have translators for.
What is this with his language?
You dealt with the lamb now deal with the wolf.


Actually you probably wanted to say that now that we have learned how to deal with the wolf, it shouldn't be very difficult to deal with the lamb from now on.

That’s very funny, so Eroglu is the lamb and Talat was the wolf? Interesting take but totally wrong. Wishful thinking on your part.
He will actually take away what Talat gave. He will go back to the begining. He learns well, he learnt it from your yero Muhtaro X.


Don't worry, YFred. There is already a term for it. It is called "cognitive dissonance..."
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:00 pm

Kifeas wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Eroglou said he wants to clarify with Christofias if the term "constituent" states Talat agreed with him, means "founding" states instead, because that is how it is translated in Turkish. Of course, Christofias will give him a Turkish language lesson, and explain to him that even though the language being used in the negotiations is one completely unknown to him, "constituent" states is properly translated as "üye devletler" or "birleşen," and not as ..."kurucu."

You must mean birleşen. Why do they have translators for.
What is this with his language?
You dealt with the lamb now deal with the wolf.


Actually you probably wanted to say that now that we have learned how to deal with the wolf, it shouldn't be very difficult to deal with the lamb from now on.

That’s very funny, so Eroglu is the lamb and Talat was the wolf? Interesting take but totally wrong. Wishful thinking on your part.
He will actually take away what Talat gave. He will go back to the begining. He learns well, he learnt it from your yero Muhtaro X.


Don't worry, YFred. There is already a term for it. It is called "cognitive dissonance..."

What? does Muhtar X suffer from that too?
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:02 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
DERVIS EROGLU, who supports Turkish Cypriot independence, claimed victory in the north's 'presidential' election on Sunday.
Eroglu won more than 50 percent of the vote to avoid a run-off and beat incumbent Mehmet Ali Talat, according to preliminiary results.
Eroglu, who wants more autonomy for each community in any peace settlement, rules out concessions key to Greek Cypriots in reunification talks.
Any stalemate on Cyprus will further complicate Turkey's ambitions to join the EU.

Diplomats have said an Eroglu victory could slow the pace of U.N.-backed reunification talks
Talat has led the talks from the Turkish Cypriot side since they began in 2008.
Eroglu, now the 'prime minister' in the north has said he will continue to negotiate, but his advertised positions are not acceptable to Greek Cypriots.
"Talks will continue because I want peace more than those who say that I don't," Eroglu told supporters at a rally after preliminary results indicated he had won.
"I seek a solution based on the realities of the island and a solution that all of us can live with."
Eroglu wants more independence for each community in any peace settlement, a stance at odds with the basis of talks until now that the island should be a federation of two zones with an effective central government. He has also ruled out any Greek Cypriot return to land now held by Turks.
The conflict not only hampers Turkey's bid to join the EU, but also complicates decision making on defence issues between the EU and NATO, of which Turkey is a member.

That's all very well, but where is my friend to explain it all to us. He has done a houdini act.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:13 pm

which friend do you speak of ?:)
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Postby YFred » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:15 pm

paliometoxo wrote:which friend do you speak of ?:)

I only have one friend, Kickapoo of course. :wink:
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Postby wallace » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:23 pm

YFred wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
DERVIS EROGLU, who supports Turkish Cypriot independence, claimed victory in the north's 'presidential' election on Sunday.
Eroglu won more than 50 percent of the vote to avoid a run-off and beat incumbent Mehmet Ali Talat, according to preliminiary results.
Eroglu, who wants more autonomy for each community in any peace settlement, rules out concessions key to Greek Cypriots in reunification talks.
Any stalemate on Cyprus will further complicate Turkey's ambitions to join the EU.

Diplomats have said an Eroglu victory could slow the pace of U.N.-backed reunification talks
Talat has led the talks from the Turkish Cypriot side since they began in 2008.
Eroglu, now the 'prime minister' in the north has said he will continue to negotiate, but his advertised positions are not acceptable to Greek Cypriots.
"Talks will continue because I want peace more than those who say that I don't," Eroglu told supporters at a rally after preliminary results indicated he had won.
"I seek a solution based on the realities of the island and a solution that all of us can live with."
Eroglu wants more independence for each community in any peace settlement, a stance at odds with the basis of talks until now that the island should be a federation of two zones with an effective central government. He has also ruled out any Greek Cypriot return to land now held by Turks.
The conflict not only hampers Turkey's bid to join the EU, but also complicates decision making on defence issues between the EU and NATO, of which Turkey is a member.

That's all very well, but where is my friend to explain it all to us. He has done a houdini act.


Nobody has to explain it to you my dear Yfred......you know and the rest of the world knows that the settlers have spoken today. You are a minority in your own so called country and all of us are fucked now. We'll have to wait another 5 years untill someone with brains comes in to find a deacent solution. This prick is not going to do it for anybody. Let's see how far this clown can take you 8)
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