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New President of TRNC is Dr.Dervish EROGLU

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:44 pm

CopperLine wrote:
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CopperLine wrote:Bad news for Cyprus. Worse news for Turkish Cypriots.

Eroglu is a dinosaur (and a fascist to boot).

This is a bad result for GCs as well since it makes any reconciliation more, not less, difficult.

Having said that, Talat's campaign was poorly organised and lacking in vigour, all of which did nothing to change the popular perception that he had squandered the moral high-ground inherited from the Annan referendum result.


The people gave him 5 years to solve this situation, he produced nothing so they voted in a hardliner who cant speak English, if it makes no difference to the GCs then there you are try agreeing a solution with this guy and see the difference I give Chrisfoias 2 meeting before hes out of there like a rabbit being hunted.


Assuming that hitherto Christofias et al. were engaged in bona fide negotiations then, now with the election of Eroglu, they'll be kicking themselves that they were so slow with Talat. I agree that the electorate have just given a judgment on Talat's failure to negotiate anything definitive over five years.

Did he not make any cockups whilst in government domestically?
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Postby CopperLine » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:51 pm

YFred wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CopperLine wrote:Bad news for Cyprus. Worse news for Turkish Cypriots.

Eroglu is a dinosaur (and a fascist to boot).

This is a bad result for GCs as well since it makes any reconciliation more, not less, difficult.

Having said that, Talat's campaign was poorly organised and lacking in vigour, all of which did nothing to change the popular perception that he had squandered the moral high-ground inherited from the Annan referendum result.


The people gave him 5 years to solve this situation, he produced nothing so they voted in a hardliner who cant speak English, if it makes no difference to the GCs then there you are try agreeing a solution with this guy and see the difference I give Chrisfoias 2 meeting before hes out of there like a rabbit being hunted.


Assuming that hitherto Christofias et al. were engaged in bona fide negotiations then, now with the election of Eroglu, they'll be kicking themselves that they were so slow with Talat. I agree that the electorate have just given a judgment on Talat's failure to negotiate anything definitive over five years.

Did he not make any cockups whilst in government domestically?


Definitely. Talat totally squandered the referendum high. In fact many of the problems of high unemployment, deepening dependency on Turkey, building and development fiascoes, high inflation, worsening health care and educational problems can all be laid at Talat's door. Or, rather, he didn't pay enough attention to them, perhaps because he thought that the President's exclusive task was to resolve the 'Cyprus problem.'
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
CopperLine wrote:Bad news for Cyprus. Worse news for Turkish Cypriots.

Eroglu is a dinosaur (and a fascist to boot).

This is a bad result for GCs as well since it makes any reconciliation more, not less, difficult.

Having said that, Talat's campaign was poorly organised and lacking in vigour, all of which did nothing to change the popular perception that he had squandered the moral high-ground inherited from the Annan referendum result.


The people gave him 5 years to solve this situation, he produced nothing so they voted in a hardliner who cant speak English, if it makes no difference to the GCs then there you are try agreeing a solution with this guy and see the difference I give Chrisfoias 2 meeting before hes out of there like a rabbit being hunted.


after tcs condemmed us for having tassos they put another hard liner in power..

but he will make things worse for the trnc not better, illusions by the mainland turks and a few tcs who think trnc will ever be a recognised country...

kind of like sampson who thought we would kick the turks off the island and unite with greece... same crap imo

a leader who cant speak english is no problem though they have the translater things and christofias always speaks greek anyway when he meets with other presidents.

his lust for partition will be where the tcs get nothing..

im interested to see how the talks go now what will happen with this guy in charge
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:00 pm

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Nikitas wrote:The stick cannot get any bigger. Do you think Erroglu has any carrots up his sleeve? What would these be so as to entice the GC side to sign up to a two state solution?


Not long to wait just watch and learn, your man will run from the table at the first chance the stage has been set, the trap laid just watch the GCs fall for it.


You must be joking of course... :lol:
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:04 pm

I must say, what a sorry lot the TCs have proven themselves to be. You seem to have no clue in what kind of nightmare you have just allowed yourselves to enter. Even what seems to you this very little Talat's election has allowed you to achieve, will be lost very soon. On top of it, Erdogan's Turkey will strangle you.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:10 pm

turkkan wrote:I would have thought most greek cypriots would be happy with these results, you can finally now have a scapegoat again for the lack of progess in talks. Its not as if anything christofias agreed with talat was going to pass any referendum in the south (or in the north by the looks of things), at least now you can continue pretending you support a bizonal bicommunal solution without having to compromise on anything.


Well, it's not our fault... You have just made a choice, based on sheer stupidity and blindness. It seems almost impossible for your community to get over Denktash's and Kemalism's 45 years of nationalistic brainwashing.
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Postby T_C » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:15 pm

TCs know nothing is going to get resolved in these negotiations....so why vote for Talat and suffer for another 5 years while he tries to "solve" the Cyprob forgetting he has a country to run... :roll:

The TCs have given up on a solution...and good for them! They were playing with fire anyways so this is a blessing in disguise imo...
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:16 pm

T_C wrote:TCs know nothing is going to get resolved in these negotiations....so why vote for Talat and suffer for another 5 years while he tries to "solve" the Cyprob forgetting he has a country to run... :roll:

The TCs have given up on a solution...and good for them! They were playing with fire anyways so this is a blessing in disguise imo...


Now you will see what real suffering means!
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:17 pm

Kifeas wrote:I must say, what a sorry lot the TCs have proven themselves to be. You seem to have no clue in what kind of nightmare you have just allowed yourselves to enter. Even what seems to you this very little Talat's election has allowed you to achieve, will be lost very soon. On top of it, Erdogan's Turkey will strangle you.



well in their defence the north is mainly mainland turks and not tcs
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Re: New President of TRNC is Dr.Dervish EROGLU

Postby halil » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:24 pm

halil wrote:People of TRNC elected new president . New president is Dr.Dervish Eroğlu.


From BBC.


Mr Eroglu, the prime minister, won just over 50%, enabling him to avoid a run-off with incumbent, Mehmet Ali Talat.

The election may have a major impact on the chances of reuniting the divided Mediterranean island.

Mr Talat backs reunification and closer ties with Europe. Mr Eroglu, a nationalist, supports a two-state solution.

Mr Eroglu claimed victory, saying: "We will always work in co-operation with our motherland Turkey."

Results on the Turkish Cypriot High Electoral Board's website gave him 50.38% of the vote to Mr Talat's 42.85%.

Analysts say the result could stall peace talks with the Greek Cypriots and have implications for Turkey's hopes of joining the European Union.

Greek Cypriots, who are already members, could block Turkey's membership bid.
When Turkish Cypriots voted Mr Talat into office they had hoped he would unite Cyprus and thus bring to an end decades of international isolation imposed on the unrecognised Turkish Republic in the north of the island, the BBC's Tabitha Morgan reports from Nicosia.

But despite years of negotiations with the Greek Cypriot leadership, he has not been able to deliver on his promises, she says.

Cyprus remains divided and the north's hopes for trade links with Europe have been frustrated, our correspondent says.

Turkish Cypriots are disappointed and, according to one analyst wanted "to punish Mr Talat" for his failure to reunite Cyprus.

Mr Eroglu rejects the united, federal solution, endorsed by the international community and instead wants one based on two loosely connected sovereign states.
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