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[halil]

People of TRNC elected new president . New president is Dr.Dervish Eroğlu.

"Greek reaction"


Eroglu told a press conference shortly after the announcement of the onofficial results, that no one should pay heed to claims that he was uncomprmising and settlement talks would break.

He said he would not be the one who left the negotaion table, expressing hope that they would solve the Cyprus issue with Christofias within a time table.

Eroglu said that he had a brief chance to chat with Christofias during UN Secteraty General Ban Ki-Moon's visit to the island.

He said Christofias told him "we can easily solve the Cyprus issue Talat moves out of the way."

The first remark from the Greek Cypriot Adminsitration on Eroglu's victory came from spokesman Stefanos Stefanu.

Reuters news agency quoted Eroglu's comments regarding Eroglu's victory as a "negative development".

"His election is a negative development, bearing in mind the positions that Mr Eroglu has and expresses," said Stefanou.

"What is important now is to get to the fundamentals of this development, how we will handle matters, what our tactics will be, so that we are able to implement the aims of a solution," Stefanou said

[Acikgoz]

It is like reading the events according to the same old script when I see the comments on this forum.

The north is a 'modern day' democracy, as with all countries having influences by the major funders or political/journalistic elite etc. But consider if no support from AKP towards Talat - there would have been a landslide against Talat.

Talat did not come home with anything to improve the lot of TCs - that is the bottom line. If there had been substantive progress and Christofias et al. wanted compromise towards reacing a final settlement then where was their input to asist Talat? Not forthcoming.

Talat we heard was making compromises - but nothing of what he promised regarding the end of isolation or the sincerity he promoted towards reacing a solution with the GCs. Do you see one movement that he was able to lable as an achievement?

Blame Turkey is the old script that simply is inaccurate. Ignore the other players to avoid self-critical evaluation of the contributing factors. Live in the lie of blaming Turkey, as that is what a pro-union supporter needs to believe, as to question the TC departure from Talat to provide the best solution for the TCs is to question the sincerity of the ability to reach a solution itself.

How many times did Talat say if there was no solution by the time of the election he would step down? What changed? Turkey, AKP pushing him to continue towards reaching a solution.

Mili, if the embargoes were lifted you would see serious improvement in tourism, local export market, synergies of businesses between the north and south, education, sport, culture... This would actually also apply to the south as well although most on this forum would rather die than accept improving ties with Turkey without demanding all of Cyprus under GC rule. Directives for direct trade had been on the table in 2004, this would have benefited GCs and TCs as all the borders would then have been open.

Bir, AKP wants to be in the EU - NO QUESTION. However they cannot leave TCs adrift as the general populous of Turkey would crush them as they see TCs as their kinfolk and not to be sacrificed to the wolves. If GCs had wanted Talat to stay on they would only have had to give up just one factor of isolation, they did not, they continued to work to control every aspect of the north interaction with the rest of the world.

[Tim Drayton]

Eroglou said he wants to clarify with Christofias if the term "constituent" states Talat agreed with him, means "founding" states instead, because that is how it is translated in Turkish. Of course, Christofias will give him a Turkish language lesson, and explain to him that even though the language being used in the negotiations is one completely unknown to him, "constituent" states is properly translated as "üye devletler" or "birleşen," and not as ..."kurucu."

You must mean birleşen. Why do they have translators for?
What is this with his language?
You dealt with the lamb now deal with the wolf.

In my humble opinion, 'oluşturucu devlet' is the best rendering of 'constituent state'.

[vaughanwilliams]

OK, so we got Donald Duck instead, big deal, nothing will change.

Halil, the term 'President' is a title bestowed upon individuals from de jure, internationally recognised countries. Not illegal occupied states that are held by force. We call these people dictators or leaders.

perhaps you could refrain from you Baycrap propoganda spreading shit and address him accordingly without trying to dishonestly pass him off as being legitimate.

well, you now got the leader you deserve, I hope he makes your lives a misery.

Good day and good ridence

Etymologically, a "president" is one who presides, who sits in leadership (from Latin pre- "before" + sedere "to sit"; giving the term praeses)
Wiki.

So, as you quite rightly refer to him as a "leader", because of his leadership, he is entitled to the honorific "President".

Only and arsehole could have dreamed up such a pathetic response to justify the title.

Im my books presidents get international recognition and respect, what you have is a goatherder who thinks he is someone.

It could only take a cheapskate, since you and your chums over on C44 are all dribbling with the thought of annexation or partition so you can hold onto your illgotten goods.

Piss off Vaughan, you have no place here, spreading your cheapskate shit in Cyprus.

Well, I don't know about your books but, in the BBCs books Dr. Eroglu is a President.
Isn't this symptomatic of your problem? You don't know when the inevitable is staring you in the face.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8628863.stm

[Mikiko]

What is important now is to get to the fundamentals of this development, how we will handle matters, what our tactics will be, so that we are able to implement the aims of a solution, Stefanou said

[YFred]

Eroglou said he wants to clarify with Christofias if the term "constituent" states Talat agreed with him, means "founding" states instead, because that is how it is translated in Turkish. Of course, Christofias will give him a Turkish language lesson, and explain to him that even though the language being used in the negotiations is one completely unknown to him, "constituent" states is properly translated as "üye devletler" or "birleşen," and not as ..."kurucu."

You must mean birleşen. Why do they have translators for?
What is this with his language?
You dealt with the lamb now deal with the wolf.

In my humble opinion, 'oluşturucu devlet' is the best rendering of 'constituent state'.

The talks will now move in a new direction anyway. Back t square one I am afraid, if only Kickapoo was here to square the circle for us. Never mind.

[paliometoxo]

People of TRNC elected new president . New president is Dr.Dervish Eroğlu.

"Greek reaction"


Eroglu told a press conference shortly after the announcement of the onofficial results, that no one should pay heed to claims that he was uncomprmising and settlement talks would break.

He said he would not be the one who left the negotaion table, expressing hope that they would solve the Cyprus issue with Christofias within a time table.

Eroglu said that he had a brief chance to chat with Christofias during UN Secteraty General Ban Ki-Moon's visit to the island.

He said Christofias told him "we can easily solve the Cyprus issue Talat moves out of the way."

The first remark from the Greek Cypriot Adminsitration on Eroglu's victory came from spokesman Stefanos Stefanu.

Reuters news agency quoted Eroglu's comments regarding Eroglu's victory as a "negative development".

"His election is a negative development, bearing in mind the positions that Mr Eroglu has and expresses," said Stefanou.

"What is important now is to get to the fundamentals of this development, how we will handle matters, what our tactics will be, so that we are able to implement the aims of a solution," Stefanou said

of course he isent btu hes just going to demand partition and two states which he knows we will NEVER accept... maybe christofias should go and demand enosis with all of cyprus to greece

[Lit]

Wow, with that kind of temper you really are self-concious of your own shortcomings.

Think before you write. Your question outside of the profanity can easily be answered by yourself if you care to look at what I wrote and what you took from it.
I read the western press, sounds like you read the gutter press and have had an upbringing in the gutter.

I'll admit it...i have little patience for whiny small minded lecturers who always blame everything on the GCs. Your so called isolation is really a consequence of the illegal occupation by Turkey of northern Cyprus and the Turks refusal to accept international legality. You see it's all about the legality.

Here is the gutter western press that i am reading:


Hardliner Eroglu wins TRNC election
http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/hardl ... c-election


U.N. opponent Eroglu wins Cyprus vote
http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2010/apr/ ... -20100419/


Nationalist wins northern Cyprus election
http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/20 ... 67727.aspx

His name is already synonymous with being on the extreme margins of political thought. Google Eroglu now and you will see hardliner next to his name. You can not blame us for all this.

[Tim Drayton]

Eroglou said he wants to clarify with Christofias if the term "constituent" states Talat agreed with him, means "founding" states instead, because that is how it is translated in Turkish. Of course, Christofias will give him a Turkish language lesson, and explain to him that even though the language being used in the negotiations is one completely unknown to him, "constituent" states is properly translated as "üye devletler" or "birleşen," and not as ..."kurucu."

You must mean birleşen. Why do they have translators for?
What is this with his language?
You dealt with the lamb now deal with the wolf.

In my humble opinion, 'oluşturucu devlet' is the best rendering of 'constituent state'.

The talks will now move in a new direction anyway. Back t square one I am afraid, if only Kickapoo was here to square the circle for us. Never mind.

I agree with you that the game is up. It was a unique window of opportunity to have pro-solution, left-wing leaders on both sides and that opportunity has been lost. The rest is academic, as you say.

[YFred]

Eroglou said he wants to clarify with Christofias if the term "constituent" states Talat agreed with him, means "founding" states instead, because that is how it is translated in Turkish. Of course, Christofias will give him a Turkish language lesson, and explain to him that even though the language being used in the negotiations is one completely unknown to him, "constituent" states is properly translated as "üye devletler" or "birleşen," and not as ..."kurucu."

You must mean birleşen. Why do they have translators for?
What is this with his language?
You dealt with the lamb now deal with the wolf.

In my humble opinion, 'oluşturucu devlet' is the best rendering of 'constituent state'.

The talks will now move in a new direction anyway. Back t square one I am afraid, if only Kickapoo was here to square the circle for us. Never mind.

I agree with you that the game is up. It was a unique window of opportunity to have pro-solution, left-wing leaders on both sides and that opportunity has been lost. The rest is academic, as you say.

Yep. Sad but true.