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[boomerang]

if talat's party loses, should start a revolution against superglue guy for the majority gifting their country to turkey...

and

if superglue guys party loses should start a revolution against talat for the majority gifting their country to the roc...

[boomerang]

why should the majority enforce their will on the minority when lets say if superglue guy wins and the voting base is made of settelrs from the mainland?...

personally can't believe the tcs have become so complacent....

[umit07]

why should the majority enforce their will on the minority when lets say if superglue guy wins and the voting base is made of settelrs from the mainland?...

personally can't believe the tcs have become so complacent....

Nobody personally likes what's going on in terms of settlers, the only reason why UBP and Co seems to like them is because of their votes, the threat that the left wing parties want to send them off to turkey works pretty well.

I don't know why we're all squirming on here, f*** all is gonna change in cyprus.

[YFred]

why should the majority enforce their will on the minority when lets say if superglue guy wins and the voting base is made of settelrs from the mainland?...

personally can't believe the tcs have become so complacent....

Nobody personally likes what's going on in terms of settlers, the only reason why UBP and Co seems to like them is because of their votes, the threat that the left wing parties want to send them off to turkey works pretty well.

I don't know why we're all squirming on here, f*** all is gonna change in cyprus.

There is another reason. The settlers were brought in to replace the TC that were forced out of Cyprus as a direct policy of enosis by roc. The idea was if we can't have cyprus by force, lets starve them out of cyprus. WHich is where enclaves came to being.
The UBP and Turkish Policy was giden de turk gelen de turk.
I am afraid the root lies in the roc policy. The settlers were a reaction.

[umit07]

why should the majority enforce their will on the minority when lets say if superglue guy wins and the voting base is made of settelrs from the mainland?...

personally can't believe the tcs have become so complacent....

Nobody personally likes what's going on in terms of settlers, the only reason why UBP and Co seems to like them is because of their votes, the threat that the left wing parties want to send them off to turkey works pretty well.

I don't know why we're all squirming on here, f*** all is gonna change in cyprus.

There is another reason. The settlers were brought in to replace the TC that were forced out of Cyprus as a direct policy of enosis by roc. The idea was if we can't have cyprus by force, lets starve them out of cyprus. WHich is where enclaves came to being.
The UBP and Turkish Policy was giden de turk gelen de turk.
I am afraid the root lies in the roc policy. The settlers were a reaction.

No mate there is no way you can pin the importation of settlers to GC's, it's frekin stupid. The north never needed the burden of supporting more people anyway.

[YFred]

why should the majority enforce their will on the minority when lets say if superglue guy wins and the voting base is made of settelrs from the mainland?...

personally can't believe the tcs have become so complacent....

Nobody personally likes what's going on in terms of settlers, the only reason why UBP and Co seems to like them is because of their votes, the threat that the left wing parties want to send them off to turkey works pretty well.

I don't know why we're all squirming on here, f*** all is gonna change in cyprus.

There is another reason. The settlers were brought in to replace the TC that were forced out of Cyprus as a direct policy of enosis by roc. The idea was if we can't have cyprus by force, lets starve them out of cyprus. WHich is where enclaves came to being.
The UBP and Turkish Policy was giden de turk gelen de turk.
I am afraid the root lies in the roc policy. The settlers were a reaction.

No mate there is no way you can pin the importation of settlers to GC's, it's frekin stupid. The north never needed the burden of supporting more people anyway.

So, all the time you were in Cyprus, you never heard "giden da turk gelen da turk". Bloody hell I could here it all the way from London, that's how loud it was? It was Turkish policy to replace all the TCs that left before and after 74. If you look at the reason why TCs left before and after 74, the root of it is with the roc. First enclaves then economic suffocation
Why were the TCs pushed into enclaves by the eoka-b for a bit fun? To drive them out of Cyprus and then have enosis. Please don't tell me TMT pushed TCs into enclaves.

FFS Umit have you not heard what TPapa said when he was told that his policies were suffocating the TCs.
"We may be suffocating them but we do it with love", was his response.
Please tell me that the GCs had nothing to do with the TCs being enclaved before 74 and economically suffocated after.

[umit07]

YFRED DID YOU READ MY POST BEFORE REPLYING?

What the hell does enclaves before 74 have anything to do with settlers?
If what you say is true about settlers being brought in to replace TC's, then why did many more TC's leave after 74? Why not create incentives for TC's to return? Why do we even need to replace TC's with settlers?

I never said anything about "enclaves" or "gelen turk, giden turk".

[YFred]

YFRED DID YOU READ MY POST BEFORE REPLYING?

What the hell does enclaves before 74 have anything to do with settlers?
If what you say is true about settlers being brought in to replace TC's, then why did many more TC's leave after 74? Why not create incentives for TC's to return? Why do we even need to replace TC's with settlers?

I never said anything about "enclaves" or "gelen turk, giden turk".

Lets go to the begining shall we?
Between 1963 and 1974, lots of TCs left Cyprus because of the enclaves, are you with me so far.
Then Shit hit the fan in 74. So as soon as the turks were able to, they brought in the settlers to replace the TCs that left Cyprus before 1974 to keep the population balanced, so that in any future negotiations the GC will not benefit from TCs leaving Cyprus in terms of percentage population. Now are you still with me or shall go back to the begining again?
Next week we will concentrate on why TCs felt that the embargo was hurting them and decided to leave Cyprus anyway after 74. Enough for today. We have the election results to think about.