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ATCA's HALF A MILLION T/Cs !!

Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:04 pm

Thursday, April 15, 2010
By Cetin Ramadan - Association of Turkish Cypriots Abroad (ATCA

The Turkish Cypriot Diaspora Unite for a Solution

The Association of Turkish Cypriots Abroad (ATCA), as part of a collective of over 60 Turkish Cypriot NGOs in the UK, has sent this message to all the candidates running for the imminent Presidential elections in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. The message is as follows:

As non-government and civil society organisations representing over half a million displaced Turkish Cypriots worldwide, we support the ongoing negotiations for a comprehensive settlement to the Cyprus issue. However, the Turkish Cypriot Diaspora want to be informed regularly of actual progress and intentions in any future negotiations made by the newly elected President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC).

It is one of our primary roles to make sure that the future TRNC President and negotiator of the Turkish Cypriot people upholds the people’s humanitarian and constitutional rights in Cyprus. The Turkish Cypriot Diaspora desires a strong leader at the negotiating table who is fundamentally in support of the existence of the TRNC and its elevation globally.

As Turkish Cypriots living abroad, it is in our best interest to unite and fight with our brothers for the TRNC’s continuation and ultimate worldwide recognition. Many thousands of the Turkish Cypriot Diaspora want to end their refugee status and return to their homeland which will hopefully come to be internationally recognised. The Turkish Cypriot Diaspora wants to see ongoing negotiations for a comprehensive solution. However, a future plan must also be fair and similarly based on a Bi- Communal, Bi-Zonal structure based on “Two Founding States”. Our intention is not to accept anything but equal status with the Greek Cypriots at the negotiating table. We support a TRNC President who openly states that the agreement will be based on a new partnership state. We do not support current proposals giving Greek Cypriots 20-30% cross-voting in our elections without equal voting rights for our own kin and the Turkish Cypriot Diaspora.

The Turkish Cypriot Diaspora believe that more pressure should be brought on the UK to give its unconditional support for the removal of the inhumane isolation inflicted on the Turkish Cypriots of Northern Cyprus and to assist in an unbiased way for an overall solution. This would not only assist in the search for an amicable, workable and long lasting resolution to the Cyprus problem, but would also add to its approval of Turkey’s EU entry.

We would like to insist that the Turkish Cypriots need to be compensated for the last 47 years of being placed under severe restrictions on trade, travel and inward investment without any legal justification. The Turkish Cypriots have received virtually no benefit from the international subsidies given to the Greek Cypriot Administration over the past 40 years, and even today when the EU is willing to make grants to Turkish Cypriots, the grants are obstructed by the Greek Cypriots. We would hope that the future TRNC President help put an immediate end to the embargoes and insist that the UK give financial support to the Turkish Cypriots to boost their economy to the same level as that of the Greek Cypriots. Furthermore, that compensation be given for the failure of the UK Government over 47 years to discharge its obligations to the Turkish Cypriots as a Guarantor of the 1960 Constitution. This must be bilateral aid and it must be channelled through the United Nations and given directly to Turkish Cypriots.

Our future TRNC President should reiterate that Turkish and Greek Cypriots are quite distinct from each other: they have a different religion; a different language; a different culture. It should be the purpose of the future TRNC President to ensure that all Turkish Cypriots, home and abroad, be given the freedom and power to decide for themselves what their future status will be. Turkish Cypriots living abroad should also have the right to vote in governmental & presidential elections and referendums under regulations put in place after full consultation with Turkish Cypriots living abroad.

We will not support a unitary state based on single citizenship or single sovereignty and will not accept minority status. We have to insist on the basis of political equality, and the active and effective guarantorship of Turkey for any future sustainable peace. We support a solution which conforms to the realities of the island. We concur with the Declaration made by the Turkish Security Council which “supports a solution based on the realities of the island”. Future negotiations and settlement talks are fully supported by us. However, the unjust isolations and restrictions we are being subjected to cannot continue indefinitely and a comprehensive solution must be achieved such as those suggested in this statement."

On another platform I have challenged the ludicrous claims by ATCA on the number of T/Cs living in the diaspora. They seem to have convinced the cheapskates that the population of the T/Cs overseas is in excess of half a million. Now it could be 1 million it does not bother me the least but inflating a figure is pure nonsense.
Lets say that the 18% , as per the Cyprus population censous of 1960 is now over half a million world wide then we must presume that the 80 % must now be approaching 3 million worldwide !!!!
Notice also their philosophy on the Cypriot people.
How many T/Cs I wonder support the aims and the stated views of ATCA .
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:05 pm

Well reading the above, and believe you me that was not at all easy, pretty repugnant stuff that it is, should prove to all that this ACAT are a load of Partitionist, hang on to the spoils of war, Motherland and Taksim supporting Propagandists who are not in the least bit interested in reconciliation around a Single Unitary Republic, and who are quite happy to promote turning up at the negotiating table with absolutely no intention of abiding by the UN guidelines, and with no intention to show any degree of compromise and goodwill.

Presumably there are a few Born Again Tissies on here who support their approach?
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Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:12 pm

Greedy little pigs, they have been subsidised by the invader, Turkey, for decades and they still expect a share of international subsidies paid to the legitimate government of Cyprus. And they want compensation for the "failure of the UK Government over 47 years to discharge its obligations to the Turkish Cypriots as a Guarantor of the 1960 Constitution". Didn't Turkey grab enough for them? Greedy pigs!
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:26 pm

All so-called "TC"s who leave Cyprus to live abroad should resort to their proper title of just Turkish.

After all, Cyprus is in the EU but the Turkish occupied region which they call "home" is not recognised as anything other than illegally Turkish-occupied territory! This occupied territory in Cyprus should not be reserved for these "TC"s who do not recognise the RoC-EU.
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Postby EricSeans » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:41 pm

Cetin Ramadan keeps missing out the "r" in his first name for some reason. If this guy speaks for 60 TC NGOs in the UK someone should be asking:

1. What are the names, addresses and charitable status of these groups?

2. How much taxpayers' money do they receive to churn out Denktasist dross like this?

"We will not support a unitary state based on single citizenship or single sovereignty and will not accept minority status."

Who are you to accept anything, least of all any media attention worth a damn? You're speaking from Green Lanes not the Green Line, matey.
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:52 pm

Cretin Ramadan wrote: "We will not support a unitary state based on single citizenship or single sovereignty and will not accept minority status."


So what are you doing in the UK - a unitary state based on single citizenship and single sovereignty - where you are a minority?
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Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:39 pm

Take a visit at www.northcyprusfreepress.com , have a laugh at the fact that cheapskates , like whores , have swallowed the crap from ATCA and are convinced that there are more than half a million T/Cs overseas !!!
These first class senile old codgers now believe that the G/Cs are actually the minority of all Cypriot people !!
Here we go guys , the English yobs behaving as they always did , fcukign stupid , stubborn and poushtisima !!
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Postby DTA » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:42 pm

Not going to comment on what has been written as you guys are wound up by it and don't want to add to that but 1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone with other huge communities in turkey austalia and of course the trnc as well as smaller populations in USA etc.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:22 pm

DTA wrote:Not going to comment on what has been written as you guys are wound up by it and don't want to add to that but 1/2 a million tcs may not be an exageration there is an estimated 200000 in the uk alone with other huge communities in turkey austalia and of course the trnc as well as smaller populations in USA etc.

Can you then please tell us what you think the total number of ALL Cypriots in the world are , G/Cs and T/Cs , can you also tell us what you think the percentage split of all Cypriots is.
Listen mate , let me be blatantly frank.
Since the T/Cs throughout the 40s , 50s and 60s ( Cyprus population census of 1960) was round the 18% mark , let us say 20% of all Cypriots , are we now going to seriously accept the numbers pulled out of the ACTA hat ie 500,000 just in the diaspora is correct !! That means that the entire number of G/Cs now stands at 3.33 million add to that 600000 T/Cs and a few thousand Armenians and others and hey presto the Cypriots amount to 4 MILLION , AND PIGS FLY !!! Bullshit and you know it is . One thing that I can never stomach is shit , and these redicoulous figures are just that a load of shit.
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