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Postby boomerang » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:27 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:You need to get some lessons in How to Win friends and Influence People,Boomers...Yfred has more sense and wit in his little finger than a lot of people who post here...and he is right when he says the boat is about to depart,and all Cypriots would be the losers if we miss it...Your problem and DT's problem is that you want to wipe the terrible years of 55-74 under the carpet,and think you can get away with it...You cant...The TCs will not trust you or respect you,if you keep accusing them of aiding a foreign invader or gaining on GC loss...When you appreciate and admit thqt the TCs are the biggest losers in this conflict and for very LITTLE fault of their own,we might get somewhere...Anything else is wishful thinking at best,and more likely cognitive distortions and dangerous delusions on your part... :arrow:



and you need some lessons in pulling your head out of your ass bir...try pulling head out of ass for dummies...better still borrow knuckleheads one...

this form a man that thinks the greatest injustice to the human race is the tc plight...this is from a man that thinks democracy, human rights and rule of law should play second fiddle to gos greatest gift to man kind, yes the tc, the chosen race...

all of the above that sees the cyprus intercommunal fighting is a far greatest injustice bestowed to humans, lets say the blacks in the us, and his unwillingless to accept what prevailed at the end was democracy, human rights and the rule of law...

this from a man that is unable to see the ever lingering influence of turkey, dreaming turkey will one pack and leave the island, and then says turkey will have interests and influencein cyprus...

your problem is bir you want an apology form the gcs, unable to accept that enosis was not only promised to the gcs from the british, but was bestowed to every country...yeah save your hostorical facts...even bananiot accepts this...after the 60's enosis should have been buried, but the partition seed was planrted long ago...i blame both communities, unlike you that blames one...it does take 2 to tango bir...

no bir what you want is to advance this influence, turkey, all over the island...

I said to you before many times the north side was turkified the first day turkey set foot on the island...turkey tried to cement it in 2004 and it failed...

ain't gonna happen buddy...

in the mean time try answering some of the knucleheads post saving us the trouble...

get it through your head, unless all the injustices are reversed to some extend, not only a plan will never come about, but start embrassing your extinction...your lack or unwillingless to accept this will be your downfall...

yes you will have 1 million turks in north, but sure as hell there will be a wall keeping you there...and then the tcs will migrate to the free areas accepting a unitary state...your worsed nightmare bir...so please stop with the soap operas bir...


Forget it,boomers,you will never understand where I am coming from...
And there is the essence of the Cyprus problem,and why it will never be solved...Keep advocating your democracy and human rights solution,without first coming to terms with the events of 55-74,and see where it will get you...I know,but there is no way I can make you see it...You will just have to wait and see...And I ,and those who want to be Cypriots above all,will just have to return to our Turkish roots...Because you and the likes of YOU are giving us no other choice... :( :(


the difference between me and you bir is that i am a child of the revolution and you are a child of yesterday...see the difference?... :wink:

democracy, human rights and rule of law is the answer staring right in the face...

waiting to see what exactly bir...the north becoming turkified?...it happened the first day turkey came to cyprus...you got 164,000 voters, do you mind telling me how many tcs are eligible voters....here lies your turkification...now you wanna via turkey export more to the whole of cyprus...some true cypriot you are... :wink:
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Postby YFred » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:37 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:You need to get some lessons in How to Win friends and Influence People,Boomers...Yfred has more sense and wit in his little finger than a lot of people who post here...and he is right when he says the boat is about to depart,and all Cypriots would be the losers if we miss it...Your problem and DT's problem is that you want to wipe the terrible years of 55-74 under the carpet,and think you can get away with it...You cant...The TCs will not trust you or respect you,if you keep accusing them of aiding a foreign invader or gaining on GC loss...When you appreciate and admit thqt the TCs are the biggest losers in this conflict and for very LITTLE fault of their own,we might get somewhere...Anything else is wishful thinking at best,and more likely cognitive distortions and dangerous delusions on your part... :arrow:


Bir, I agree with what you say about GC's not acknowledging how vital the first years of the Republic was. What I don't agree on is that TC's have no control over their fate. TC's should get off there sorry ass's and stop complaining about not being recognized as a state and embargoes and blah blah blah. What I saw in Cyprus is that most TC's are two faced bastards who only remember "law and order" and "democracy" only when it suits them. Most would sell their mama for the right price. The north has basically become a nation built on scavengers, the national front promotes partition in order to hold on to the loot, while Talat and co tie every problem to a possible solution. All a bunch of cock suckers in my opinion.

Wow, that has enlightened us. I think you've caught what bumbo has. How many TCs do you personally know, becasue I now thousands and do not recognise what you are saying.
Perhaps cock sucking is common where you and bumbo live, but where We are there are much more gentle folk who live in the real world and try to influence it, ruther than spew out hot ash from the arse. Got only knows we've had enough of that more recently.
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Postby YFred » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:38 pm

boomerang wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
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BirKibrisli wrote:You need to get some lessons in How to Win friends and Influence People,Boomers...Yfred has more sense and wit in his little finger than a lot of people who post here...and he is right when he says the boat is about to depart,and all Cypriots would be the losers if we miss it...Your problem and DT's problem is that you want to wipe the terrible years of 55-74 under the carpet,and think you can get away with it...You cant...The TCs will not trust you or respect you,if you keep accusing them of aiding a foreign invader or gaining on GC loss...When you appreciate and admit thqt the TCs are the biggest losers in this conflict and for very LITTLE fault of their own,we might get somewhere...Anything else is wishful thinking at best,and more likely cognitive distortions and dangerous delusions on your part... :arrow:



and you need some lessons in pulling your head out of your ass bir...try pulling head out of ass for dummies...better still borrow knuckleheads one...

this form a man that thinks the greatest injustice to the human race is the tc plight...this is from a man that thinks democracy, human rights and rule of law should play second fiddle to gos greatest gift to man kind, yes the tc, the chosen race...

all of the above that sees the cyprus intercommunal fighting is a far greatest injustice bestowed to humans, lets say the blacks in the us, and his unwillingless to accept what prevailed at the end was democracy, human rights and the rule of law...

this from a man that is unable to see the ever lingering influence of turkey, dreaming turkey will one pack and leave the island, and then says turkey will have interests and influencein cyprus...

your problem is bir you want an apology form the gcs, unable to accept that enosis was not only promised to the gcs from the british, but was bestowed to every country...yeah save your hostorical facts...even bananiot accepts this...after the 60's enosis should have been buried, but the partition seed was planrted long ago...i blame both communities, unlike you that blames one...it does take 2 to tango bir...

no bir what you want is to advance this influence, turkey, all over the island...

I said to you before many times the north side was turkified the first day turkey set foot on the island...turkey tried to cement it in 2004 and it failed...

ain't gonna happen buddy...

in the mean time try answering some of the knucleheads post saving us the trouble...

get it through your head, unless all the injustices are reversed to some extend, not only a plan will never come about, but start embrassing your extinction...your lack or unwillingless to accept this will be your downfall...

yes you will have 1 million turks in north, but sure as hell there will be a wall keeping you there...and then the tcs will migrate to the free areas accepting a unitary state...your worsed nightmare bir...so please stop with the soap operas bir...


Forget it,boomers,you will never understand where I am coming from...
And there is the essence of the Cyprus problem,and why it will never be solved...Keep advocating your democracy and human rights solution,without first coming to terms with the events of 55-74,and see where it will get you...I know,but there is no way I can make you see it...You will just have to wait and see...And I ,and those who want to be Cypriots above all,will just have to return to our Turkish roots...Because you and the likes of YOU are giving us no other choice... :( :(


the difference between me and you bir is that i am a child of the revolution and you are a child of yesterday...see the difference?... :wink:

democracy, human rights and rule of law is the answer staring right in the face...

waiting to see what exactly bir...the north becoming turkified?...it happened the first day turkey came to cyprus...you got 164,000 voters, do you mind telling me how many tcs are eligible voters....here lies your turkification...now you wanna via turkey export more to the whole of cyprus...some true cypriot you are... :wink:

Noooooooo, the difference is that Bir is a human and you are an asshole, cause calling you an animal is an insult to animal kingdom.
Son of the revolution my arse. You have never been shot at, with bullets wizing past your ears me thinks. When you do you may understand realities, judging by your mentality, it may not be too long. But you will not be there, GR and DT will get it instead.
If after these elections Erdogan is toppled, then we'll see whats what and who is who. Perhaps some of you brave son of a bitches will be at the front or not as the case may be.
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Postby umit07 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:49 pm

YFred wrote:
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BirKibrisli wrote:You need to get some lessons in How to Win friends and Influence People,Boomers...Yfred has more sense and wit in his little finger than a lot of people who post here...and he is right when he says the boat is about to depart,and all Cypriots would be the losers if we miss it...Your problem and DT's problem is that you want to wipe the terrible years of 55-74 under the carpet,and think you can get away with it...You cant...The TCs will not trust you or respect you,if you keep accusing them of aiding a foreign invader or gaining on GC loss...When you appreciate and admit thqt the TCs are the biggest losers in this conflict and for very LITTLE fault of their own,we might get somewhere...Anything else is wishful thinking at best,and more likely cognitive distortions and dangerous delusions on your part... :arrow:


Bir, I agree with what you say about GC's not acknowledging how vital the first years of the Republic was. What I don't agree on is that TC's have no control over their fate. TC's should get off there sorry ass's and stop complaining about not being recognized as a state and embargoes and blah blah blah. What I saw in Cyprus is that most TC's are two faced bastards who only remember "law and order" and "democracy" only when it suits them. Most would sell their mama for the right price. The north has basically become a nation built on scavengers, the national front promotes partition in order to hold on to the loot, while Talat and co tie every problem to a possible solution. All a bunch of cock suckers in my opinion.

Wow, that has enlightened us. I think you've caught what bumbo has. How many TCs do you personally know, becasue I now thousands and do not recognise what you are saying.
Perhaps cock sucking is common where you and bumbo live, but where We are there are much more gentle folk who live in the real world and try to influence it, ruther than spew out hot ash from the arse. Got only knows we've had enough of that more recently.


I'm describing what sort of society TC's have become AFTER 74. I have lived in Cyprus for 9 years. How many years have you lived in Cyprus post 74?
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Postby YFred » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:51 pm

umit07 wrote:
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BirKibrisli wrote:You need to get some lessons in How to Win friends and Influence People,Boomers...Yfred has more sense and wit in his little finger than a lot of people who post here...and he is right when he says the boat is about to depart,and all Cypriots would be the losers if we miss it...Your problem and DT's problem is that you want to wipe the terrible years of 55-74 under the carpet,and think you can get away with it...You cant...The TCs will not trust you or respect you,if you keep accusing them of aiding a foreign invader or gaining on GC loss...When you appreciate and admit thqt the TCs are the biggest losers in this conflict and for very LITTLE fault of their own,we might get somewhere...Anything else is wishful thinking at best,and more likely cognitive distortions and dangerous delusions on your part... :arrow:


Bir, I agree with what you say about GC's not acknowledging how vital the first years of the Republic was. What I don't agree on is that TC's have no control over their fate. TC's should get off there sorry ass's and stop complaining about not being recognized as a state and embargoes and blah blah blah. What I saw in Cyprus is that most TC's are two faced bastards who only remember "law and order" and "democracy" only when it suits them. Most would sell their mama for the right price. The north has basically become a nation built on scavengers, the national front promotes partition in order to hold on to the loot, while Talat and co tie every problem to a possible solution. All a bunch of cock suckers in my opinion.

Wow, that has enlightened us. I think you've caught what bumbo has. How many TCs do you personally know, becasue I now thousands and do not recognise what you are saying.
Perhaps cock sucking is common where you and bumbo live, but where We are there are much more gentle folk who live in the real world and try to influence it, ruther than spew out hot ash from the arse. Got only knows we've had enough of that more recently.


I'm describing what sort of society TC's have become AFTER 74. I have lived in Cyprus for 9 years. How many years have you lived in Cyprus post 74?

I have hundres of relatives that live there and go there every year, and sometimes twice. I do not recognise your desciption of the TCs.
Where did you live?
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Postby umit07 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:55 pm

It doesn't make a difference where you live, nut if you wanna know I lived in Bostanci ( Zodhia). My mother, sister and grandmother still live there.
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Postby YFred » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:01 pm

umit07 wrote:It doesn't make a difference where you live, nut if you wanna know I lived in Bostanci ( Zodhia). My mother, sister and grandmother still live there.

How can you assume that what you have seen is representitive of the whole of TC population?
You are wrong. TCs have been emargoed since 74. Just consider the effect that would have, but I have nort seen it despite that. The TCs I know have 2 or 3 jobs to survive and re sick to death of the treatment they get in the hands of the roc. If they vote for eroglu, it is their right. If you cant respect the voter wishes how do claim to be for human rights.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:31 pm

YFred wrote:
umit07 wrote:It doesn't make a difference where you live, nut if you wanna know I lived in Bostanci ( Zodhia). My mother, sister and grandmother still live there.

How can you assume that what you have seen is representitive of the whole of TC population?
You are wrong. TCs have been emargoed since 74. Just consider the effect that would have, but I have nort seen it despite that. The TCs I know have 2 or 3 jobs to survive and re sick to death of the treatment they get in the hands of the roc. If they vote for eroglu, it is their right. If you cant respect the voter wishes how do claim to be for human rights.

Fred , give us an example of the bad treatment , do leave out the Health care that is provided free of charge , indeed as it should be.
Can you also tell us the adverse affects of the embargo .
Umit , Cyprus IS your country just as it is mine . You should not feel frustrated at the adverse comments by some , believe me I know and talk to many G/Cs and T/Cs , all want nothing more than to be able to live together in peace and equality.
I know you share some of my views and I yours , we are not in any way unique , we are both Cypriots !
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Postby B25 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:36 pm

YFred wrote:
umit07 wrote:It doesn't make a difference where you live, nut if you wanna know I lived in Bostanci ( Zodhia). My mother, sister and grandmother still live there.

How can you assume that what you have seen is representitive of the whole of TC population?
You are wrong. TCs have been emargoed since 74. Just consider the effect that would have, but I have nort seen it despite that. The TCs I know have 2 or 3 jobs to survive and re sick to death of the treatment they get in the hands of the roc. If they vote for eroglu, it is their right. If you cant respect the voter wishes how do claim to be for human rights.[/quote]

So tell me Fjocks, do you respect the voters wishes??? because if you do then you have no problem respecting the wish of the GC people who voted NO to the Ankara plan, or does this respect only extend to TCs?????
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Postby YFred » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:47 pm

miltiades wrote:
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umit07 wrote:It doesn't make a difference where you live, nut if you wanna know I lived in Bostanci ( Zodhia). My mother, sister and grandmother still live there.

How can you assume that what you have seen is representitive of the whole of TC population?
You are wrong. TCs have been emargoed since 74. Just consider the effect that would have, but I have nort seen it despite that. The TCs I know have 2 or 3 jobs to survive and re sick to death of the treatment they get in the hands of the roc. If they vote for eroglu, it is their right. If you cant respect the voter wishes how do claim to be for human rights.

Fred , give us an example of the bad treatment , do leave out the Health care that is provided free of charge , indeed as it should be.
Can you also tell us the adverse affects of the embargo .
Umit , Cyprus IS your country just as it is mine . You should not feel frustrated at the adverse comments by some , believe me I know and talk to many G/Cs and T/Cs , all want nothing more than to be able to live together in peace and equality.
I know you share some of my views and I yours , we are not in any way unique , we are both Cypriots !

Come on Milti, "cocksuckers"? I don't think so. The younger generation have lost all respect and will need to be re-taught the meaning.

I do not consider the health care to be free. The reason it is not charged is becasue the average income of a TC is below poverty line, it would be the same in any other country. The embargo is the cause of that and the roc is the cause of the embargo. One of the most grown product with TCs is wheat and the roc cannot be bothered to check to see who grows on TC land and who does not. They just refuse to buy it. Milti we are both Cypriots but my family has been suffering since 1960. My father always got paid second class price for the wheat he produced prior to 74 even though it was first class. He lost land to the GCs in 63 and in 74. Do you want any more or would that be enough. RoC has been descriminating against the TCs since 1960. Stop kidding yourself.
Yes we have many common thoughs and are equally attacked by some bastards on this forum in the same way. But we can legislate for cunts can we. Its a mans right to be one. Some can't help it.
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